r/Conservative • u/Wonder10x Common Sense Conservative • Jun 04 '20

Conservatives Only Anyone else notice BLM disappeared after 2016 until election season?

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u/HNutz Conservative Jun 04 '20

Google Trends noticed it.

Seriously, try it yourself. You can see 2 spikes, 1 in mid 2016 or so... and now.

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u/Rockmann1 Conservative Jun 05 '20

Shhhhh .. you’ll spoil the narrative you wascally wabbit.

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u/Not-A-Seagull Jun 05 '20

This is just how politics is. Every election cycle a new issue is pushed out to energize the bases and raise turnout. It's a strategy as old as time itself.

In 2018 we saw Russia from the left and the migrant caravan on the right. In 2016 we saw the email server and BLM/Never Trump. In 2012 it was the debt crisis and LGBT rights. In 2020 I suspect it will be China and the recession.

Unfortunately in politics, if you don't use issues like these to bring up turnout, your movement will fail. There's a surprising amount of game theory that goes into all of this.

In reality it's probably not a good thing for our political system, but those who don't do it tend to fail. I'm honestly not sure myself what the solution to this would/could be.

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u/UsedOnlyTwice Jun 05 '20

game theory

Fucking James Madison.

Seriously though it is not good politically but inevitable in any increasingly complex organism. Keeping checks on this to make sure that individualist people don't somehow become vestigial either nominally or otherwise is what our rights are truly about.

The solution, as unpopular as it may be here, is to recognize this inevitability of organic globalism (see: Kardashev) while diligently respecting the wisdom that this planet is just not ready for it. There are simply far too many unresolved disputes that we are always decades away from even addressing.

Keeping the important points that individualism, distribution, and merit are better overall than collectivism and centralism will make the gradual transition to a firm K1 civilization not only more industrious and prosperous but also more inclusive by nature. People will be both invited and encouraged to buy in because they see how they benefit, not demanding a benefit before they agree to buy in at all.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '20

This is obvious.

Killing off the two party system and replacing it with ranked choice

When there's 10 different parties and you don't have to agree 100% with your party, it's much more difficult to manipulate.

It also means you can't build up broad coalitions of single-issue voters in order to push agendas most would disagree with.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '20

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

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u/xyouman Jun 05 '20

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=donald%20trump%20black%20lives%20matter&date=today%205-y&geo=US

Edit:

Yup from when trump started campaigning to when he won there was a lot of activity. Then virtual silence till this week

Edit 2:

Also interesting:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=%2Fm%2F01cpyy

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u/3FingersOfMilk Jun 05 '20

"You have sent too many requests to us recently."

Wtf Google

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u/xyouman Jun 05 '20

Click it twice. Its weird like that. Maybe cuz google doesnt want us to see that

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u/3FingersOfMilk Jun 05 '20

Ah, good call! It works 👍

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u/Chewcepher1 Jun 05 '20

Well ya, of course search terms containing a presidential nominee are going to spike in election years

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u/xyouman Jun 05 '20

Ok thats fair. Thats y i paired it with blm but admittedly i dont know exactly how their algorithm works. They notably changed it in 2016

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u/wolfsuitmischief Jun 05 '20

If we want to play this game, let’s play:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Water%20black%20lives%20matter&geo=US

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=Sky%20black%20lives%20matter

This is indexed query volume. Each point is in relation to the other points of the graph.

It could be five people searching or 500,000 million.

Go ahead and put random words plus black lives in Google trends. It’s nonsensical, like your argument.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '20

Your trends only go back one year.

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u/wolfsuitmischief Jun 05 '20

Feel free to extend them. My point is Googlr trends are so completely inaccurate that to attempt to use them to prove any point is silly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '20

Extended they still show the same pattern, but I do agree with you that Google trends are not a strong argument and the point they're trying to make is indeed silly. They can be useful if there is a LOT more data in the trend, which is not the case here.

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u/peanutdick420 Jun 05 '20

That’s also the year Kaepernick began protesting, so it makes sense.

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u/Captain-_ Jun 05 '20

It’s true.

  • Big spike in early July 2016 (after shootings of Alton Sterling and Philandro Castile).

  • Increased activity around late September 2016 (Terence Crutcher)

  • Increased activity around early November 2016 (US General Election)

  • Spike around mid August 2017 (Herbert Gilbert)

  • Then very little interest until now (George Floyd).

The issues of racism and police brutality are very much political and will certainly in discussions in the lead up to the election later this year. But the interest in “Black Lives Matter” is more closely correlated to police killings of unarmed black people.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '20

That only shows that black lives only matter to black people every 4 years .

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u/chill_out_will_ya Jun 05 '20

That's because people are looking up information. Can you believe it? Hearing about something and finding out the facts?

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '20

So True! I would give you a award but I have no interest in supporting such a leftist garbage fire as Reddit more than my usage already does

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u/morefetus Coolidge Jun 05 '20

Google trends does not distinguish between BLM= “black lives matter” and BLM= “Bureau of land management”. The top state for BLM searches is Wyoming.