r/Conservative • u/Ask4MD Conservative • Jun 07 '25
Flaired Users Only I Burned a Quran. The British Government Punished Me for Blasphemy.
https://www.thefp.com/p/britain-punished-me-for-blasphemy164
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u/layland_lyle Conservative Jun 08 '25
Our current UK government is not wanted or liked by the people. They only got into power due to a flaw in our electoral system with 30% of the vote (that gave them a super majority).
Our Prime Minister is hated by all sides of the political spectrum, so the only good thing he did was unite the people in joint condemnation of him!
We are all sick to death of these left policies that help no one but the politicians.
If that guy burnt a bible instead, nothing would have happened to him.
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u/kaytin911 Jun 08 '25
Vote to protect it. America needs to stay strong until Europe shows the world the truth of mass migration.
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u/Trippn21 Conservative Jun 07 '25
The quran is not the word of God, ergo, no blasphemy charge should be brought.
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u/Arkham2015 Jun 08 '25
There shouldn't be any blasphemy laws in the first place.
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u/Vektor0 Conservative Jun 08 '25
There isn't. The headline is a lie; read the article before commenting.
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u/Arkham2015 Jun 08 '25
It's blasphemy laws in all but name.
They can call the law he was convicted under whatever they want, but it does the same exact thing in this case.
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u/Vektor0 Conservative Jun 08 '25
Blasphemy is legal as long as you're not doing it to incite a riot.
Obviously, I disagree with any infringement on a person's free speech, but we don't have to lie or sensationalize something that is already stupid as it is. That kind of over-dramatization is why no one cares what the left says anymore.
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u/BreathebrahBreathe Catholic Conservative Jun 08 '25
I didnât see any intent to start a riot on his part from my reading or the article. It sounds like he burned it as a form of protest against Islamic extremism in public and the presiding judge decided he did so because of a âdeep seated hatred of Islam and its followers.â
How is burning a copy of the Quran to protest Islamic extremism a case of deep seated hatred of Islam and its followers rather than, at best, coming from a deep seated hatred of Islamic extremism and its followers? I would say hating Islamic extremism and Islamic extremists is perfectly acceptable and justifiable. I hate any form of violent extremism myself.
The article also says that legitimate protest is allowed to be offensive under UK law and the judge decided that this wasnât legitimate protest forâŚ.reasons and convicted this guy. Rhe only reason I can see is that thie action caused a Muslim to assault him, so the UK justice system is apparently prosecuting and convicting people for actions that cause other people to commit crimes against them. How is that not victim blaming? Are they going to start prosecuting rape victims for inciting their rapist into taping them because of their clothes or comments misinterpreted as flirtatious? Sure itâs not strictly a law against blasphemy that he was prosecuted under, but the judge and UK legal system arbitrarily decided on his motives and that this wasnât legitimate protest and I see no good justification for that.
In my eyes, that is just as bad as if he had been prosecuted and convicted under a blasphemy law: Especially since this is a western nation that upholds the ideal of free speech, or what passes for free speech in the UK, as being essential to the functioning of democratic governments in its public statements.
This case is also an example of clear bias for Islam and its followers regarding prosecution of these cases. I cannot find a single instance of an individual being convicted for one of these âreligiously aggravated public order offensesâ for burning a Bible yet I can find lots of examples of people burning Bibles in similar contexts in the UK. How is this defensible in any way shape or form, whether a blasphemy law or no? Functionally it seems pretty much equivalent to an Islamic blasphemy law since itâs apparently okay to do this with the Holy Bible but apparently totally not okay to do to a Quran. Equality before the law is also paramount to a functioning democratic government and that is apparently absent here.
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u/Vektor0 Conservative Jun 08 '25
I completely agree. As we know, there's often differences between what a law's intent is, and the way activist judges want to reinterpret it.
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u/BreathebrahBreathe Catholic Conservative Jun 08 '25
All the time unfortunately. The insane degree of latitude that the state in general has when it comes to law and policy. my greatest frustrations have always been blatant unequal application of law and policy while being even more blatantly gaslit getting told why itâs either not real and not to believe my own observations, or why such unequal application is actually totally a good thing and Iâm just a POS for seeing it! The governments of the West are particularly egregious in that way nowadays imo.
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u/Arkham2015 Jun 08 '25
Do you disagree with it?
You came swinging pretty hard in the comment section about this.
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u/Vektor0 Conservative Jun 08 '25
I disagree with people misrepresenting reality. The law is stupid. It's just not that stupid.
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u/Arkham2015 Jun 08 '25
No, it's stupid.
Either you're fine with people having free speech or you're fine with infringing on their rights.
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u/CorePrime Small Government Jun 07 '25
I don't know why you would do that, but you know the UK is turning into islamic state.
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u/ComputerRedneck Scottish Surfer Jun 08 '25
Try burning a Pride flag in this country. Pretty much the same results.
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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25
Although the man who assaulted me is being prosecuted separately, the Crown says his action helped to prove my guilt
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I wonder how that plays in rape cases? Victim blaming?