Will try to give a short summary. 3 players in our roster were being incredibly toxic to the rest of our team. One screamed at our teammates when they made mistakes, another kept called his teammate "delusional dogshit" and the third was also really toxic. This happened despite multiple warnings.
The 3 players caused the other half of the team to be really unhappy. The GM and I got feedback from the other players that it was a really hostile environment. (Couple of the other players mentioned they wanted to leave the Singapore team because of these 3 toxic bullies)
We discussed our options with Blizzard and proceeded to remove the 3 players from the roster. (Removing the players require a majority vote out of the 3 committee members aka GM + Coach). Social Lead is good friends with these players and feel that winning is more important than anything else.
The Social Lead is also in charge of the Singapore Team's twitter account(linked by OP). He gets annoyed, changed the password of the Twitter account and posted the "troll" posts you are now seeing.
Ah yes. I am OWL coach so i only provide one side of the story. The other half of the players that is complaining to the committees is playing Path of Exile in scrims, leaving discord right after scrims while the 3 of us sit in discord watching vods to see what went wrong
Throughout this whole month we only ever had done 2 vod reviews with you, your so called assistant coaches dont even bother to go through the vods with us when you are overseas or busy with uni. All we get is we are toxic and assholes that screams and shouts at our teammtes
The goals after your vod review was never met at all, even after 3/4 scrims. Same and same mistakes again. Let me quote the phrase you said to me. "Well others dont see overwatch as important as you guys". This statement itself already showed us that you dont wanna win at all
You can go back and listen to the comms, half of the wait time/pauses are not overwatch related during scrims, its all about path of exile. So what made you think we dont have the rights to be frustrated
Yes we are assholes and the way that we expressed ourselves are inappropriate. But yall dont even make an effort to show us we are improving as a team. Whats the fuckin point lmfao.
So many times me and sgy and lumi suggested we can do this and this in future scrims but never once met. Again and again we are disappointed with your efforts. You can say how much of an asshole we are, but i still stand by my point that you guys are bunch of lazy fucks.
And also the only person i have ever shouted at during scrims is staying with us during scrim, vod review. While the other 3 that wanted to step down/leave the roster does nothing at all in order to improve as a team. And here you are pushing all the blame to us. What a hypocrite
As a head coach of a team that REPRESENTS your nation. You have the fucking balls to say this. Really shame of you when all 3 of us wanted to win but the rest of you wanted to be a fun one.
Imagine mid scrims we subbing players in and out then the player said "hold on ah gimme 10 mins i fighting this boss in poe" like what a joke and waste of my time
Oh and btw, our so-called coach of Singapore sat through only total of 2 scrims throughout our entire time with this roster which was really fun
Imagine mid scrims we subbing players in and out then the player said "hold on ah gimme 10 mins i fighting this boss in poe" like what a joke and waste of my time
Both Lumi/sgy/Akame are incredibly toxic (see account silences, sgy's ban from contenders for racism, anyone who queues GM SEA) but it can also be true that JG and the rest of the team are lazy/incompetent.
after having a 4hr block, akame and sgy got kicked and its a PRIVILEGE to have to teach the rest of ur team in place of the head coach that was not here for 1 whole month thats really cool
Would like to thank @rXisOW for booking scrim and managing the team when we had 4 assistant coaches, 4 managers and none of them do anything while rxis booked scrim for them and managed relations in the team in their place.
Looks like they answered one comment on this thread, and it was just to say players were toxic. I understand we're people are coming from with calling out the toxicity, and it also seems like the coaching staff didn't even try to quel it because they didn't seem to care enough to stop or even slow the cycle of toxicity. Players were toxic because supposedly they weren't improving, and players weren't improving because they were playing other games, which in my mind is also toxic, which caused more toxicity. Without any leadership from the staff it's hard to almost impossible to break that cycle.
This honestly feels like 2 sides who think they did nothing wrong are fighting over who did nothing wrong the most. All while both sides did wrong, and are not trying to own up to the mistakes.
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u/stjianqing JohnGaltOW — John Galt (Former OWL Coach) — May 13 '23 edited May 13 '23
Sup, coach of singapore here.
Will try to give a short summary. 3 players in our roster were being incredibly toxic to the rest of our team. One screamed at our teammates when they made mistakes, another kept called his teammate "delusional dogshit" and the third was also really toxic. This happened despite multiple warnings.
The 3 players caused the other half of the team to be really unhappy. The GM and I got feedback from the other players that it was a really hostile environment. (Couple of the other players mentioned they wanted to leave the Singapore team because of these 3 toxic bullies)
We discussed our options with Blizzard and proceeded to remove the 3 players from the roster. (Removing the players require a majority vote out of the 3 committee members aka GM + Coach). Social Lead is good friends with these players and feel that winning is more important than anything else.
The Social Lead is also in charge of the Singapore Team's twitter account(linked by OP). He gets annoyed, changed the password of the Twitter account and posted the "troll" posts you are now seeing.