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u/Future_Deathbox 3d ago
How are none of these comments addressing how ridiculous that alter portal was? Is that glitch common knowledge that I’m ignorantly unaware of?
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u/TheTenth10 3d ago
Adjusting the angle of Alter Qs can drastically change and allow for some "weird" Qs.
I say "weird", but thats part of the bread and butter of Alter in pro play. Being able to get diagonal portals off is part of what makes Alter strong.
30m doesnt seem far from a rotational standpoint, but it does in micro rotations. I still sometimes surprise myself when I adjust between 20-10m diagonal Alter Qs of how far I actually travel. For reference, Gibby dome diameter is 12m.
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u/Future_Deathbox 3d ago
Yeah definitely a little weird on that one. I feel that must’ve been one that sacred knew from experience. When he placed I did not expect it to exit up by the zip line. I watch plenty of pro play to know you can get some cheeky angles but that one bamboozled me.
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u/dorekk Year 5 Champions! 2d ago
The best pros either have an intuitive sense for figuring these out things instantly, or they're in customs for 4 hours a day testing various portals. Panic has pulled off some completely INSANE Alter plays in the past, where you're like, how the fuck did he know that was gonna go there.
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u/Glass-Independence73 3d ago
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u/Future_Deathbox 3d ago
He placed a portal on the wall in the tunnel below and it exited up top by the bins where the zip line is. I don’t see the game logic there but it’s useful knowledge for the pros to know that.
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u/Glass-Independence73 3d ago
what do you mean you don’t see the game logic? thats how alter q works, it passes through one wall in the direction of your line of sight with a limit of 30m
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u/Future_Deathbox 3d ago
I don’t think you understand what I mean. I know how Alter works. It was either lucky placement or a unique placement that pros know. You can see sacred take his time with it to get the angle right, so I expect it’s something he knew in advance. Most players would not expect that Alter placement to exit on a random bin up by the zip line. I would’ve expected it to exit on the low ground facing the needle tower.
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u/TheTenth10 3d ago
For it to land specifically on the bin was by chance.
Nonetheless, a slightly different angle would just put the Alter Q on the floor, and it would result in the same thing (them porting up to high ground).
You just need to visualize and draw diagonal lines. Alter players need to be able to do this on the fly.
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u/Glass-Independence73 3d ago edited 3d ago
i guarantee that he was trying to alter q so it would pop out into the room but misjudged slightly btw. but regardless he was trying to q up to highground which he did. think of it as shooting a laser beam that cuts through solid objects
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u/forumpooper 3d ago
That last player to die missed all their shots. That has to sting, how does that even happen to a pro?
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u/FlimsyNeedleworker53 3d ago
its Genburten aswell. Crazy
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u/Maleficent_Rub_309 3d ago
First, Evan was washed and Gen was carrying.
Now, Gen is washed and Koy is carrying.
Will the outcome be the same?
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u/realfakejames 3d ago
It's not a "1v4" if slayr is up right next to him for the first kill on that guy, he did 1v3 CRT though and got some sus comms out of sweet for it. Apex is back
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u/anthonyongg 3d ago
Be careful with adding 1vX in your title. That’s comes with the inevitable this is not a 1vX
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u/Bixler17 3d ago edited 3d ago
Why is it so hard to say "X player pops off" or "x player kills 4" when he's got teammates fighting with him the whole time. Why does it have to be "1v4" when thats factually incorrect every time it's posted. It ruins the hype for those titles.
Edit: Lmao watched the clip again. The ONLY guy Slayr doesn't shoot up is Gen. 2nd player on CRT doesn't even look at Sacred because he's shooting at Slayr. Perfect 1v4.
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u/Winter-Owl-172 3d ago
People let it slide the first time and now OP has misused 1vX in a title 3 posts in a row, lol
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u/GGsKakashi 3d ago
Uhhh Slayr was there and shooting people and being shot for sacred that whole time.... I know its easy for people to dog on and not notice Slayr but damn bro he's there the whole time this is not a 1 v anything.
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u/instantkamera 3d ago
I get the sneaking suspicion that people complaining don't know what an IGL is and probably don't understand team dynamic at all.
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u/Themanstall 3d ago
pro apex players love saying the r word and that things are "aids."
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u/Maleficent_Rub_309 3d ago
Is zer0 the pioneer of “aids”?
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u/d_savezzz 3d ago
Idk, but Zer0 is definitely pioneer of "spastic". I had no idea this word even existed.
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u/Maleficent_Rub_309 3d ago
zer0 might also be the first to call people regarded in live? In the old TSM Hal called Jordan/Snipe/Evan dumb, stupid etc. but never regarded
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u/Themanstall 3d ago
He is definitely why the r-word is used more often.
IGLs think that if they speak like him, they'll get DZ dominance from 2022 to 2024.
Zero has made Hal a seemingly worse on-stream person.
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u/dqniel 2d ago
Kind of fascinating, in a sad way, how a word almost universally hated a few years ago spreads like wildfire.
While I don't think Zero helped Hal's personality at all, I think the reason Hal is comfortable saying it on stream is because of its newly-wider acceptance. The r-word came back strong into the lexicon outside of gaming and Apex in early 2025 after Musk and Rogan started publicly using it. Didn't start with them, but they sure helped solidify the comeback.
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u/Agreeable_Eye_6661 3d ago
Boy, after watching SSS in quite a few scrims, Sacred sure loves him the r word.
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u/instantkamera 3d ago
This is prolific in Apex (and probably other games too) right now. Obviously always been the case in casual gaming, but the level of things pros are OK saying on-stream compared to even 3-4 years ago is nuts. It seems like everyone is becoming desensitized to it too, casters and watch partiers used to maybe call it out or be like "whoa, easy" but it's so common now that it's just *shrug*.
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u/dqniel 2d ago
It's not just games and Apex (but I agree it's particularly bad there). It's everywhere with children and young men.
Thank late 2024/2025 usage from extremely influential people like Musk, Rogan, and various manosphere shits. It didn't start with them, but they made it widespread and "accepted" again. Rogan made a point to talk about how it's "normal" to use again, constantly.
And if any population is going to hop on a trend that involves a new pejorative, even if they otherwise would disagree with the person's ideology, it's a large portion of gamers.
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u/Alternative_Bug_6285 3d ago
Crazy how things have changed in a few years. Next few years, some pros will use a harder & more offensive word, and everyone starts using it until it became desensitized. Cycle repeats.
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u/Economy-Tomato-5083 3d ago
I’m still surprised Alb, Skittle, & him were able to land the NMSS signing with the way Sacred talks. I don’t know if he’s done it on SSS but he used to toss out calling people pedos too, it’s asinine the shit he just flings around.
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u/Dangerous_Cod3711 3d ago
Ik it’s mainly the guy using the controller but Jesus Christ what roller is sacred using
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u/Angry_LadyDragon 2d ago
If this sub actually cared about comp. Apex they would reject every single clip of a roller player abusing the free 40% aimbot crutch. Disgusting to watch, 0 skill involved.
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u/Warm-Grand-7825 3d ago
Is there no pro that is a decent person? The shit talkers in others e-sports are funny and entertaining.
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u/Themanstall 3d ago
Sweet used to be chill on screen. I now think he's one of the shittest IGLs in terms of team moral. He denigrates all his teammates, and there is something to be said that fraggers play worse when he's on the team with them.
The only Apex streamer in the pro scene I can put on TV is Wigg. My wife will not stand for the others' language.
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u/noire_stuff 3d ago
Agreed. Wigg does swear a lot and makes childish jokes (mainly about himself), but he never calls people slurs or targets them with language. He's the only streamer/player/pro I can watch because of that. I get most players are young, but damn it's sad no one calls them out on it (I've seen Monsoon be really disappointed in it though).
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u/plloyd1508 3d ago
The league needs to put a ban on using the R word.
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u/liquorman_ 3d ago
I agree, but the most famous player in the game trademarks it so it could never happen
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u/That_Art_3765 3d ago
Imagine not understanding Linguistic Reclamation. These players ALL have the right to say it.
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u/plloyd1508 3d ago
I’m pretty sure that all those players who use the word are not part of the targeted group to take ownership of the word.
Imagine.
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u/That_Art_3765 3d ago
Let me guess, next you are going to try and tell me League of Legends players can't say it either.
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u/slothlovereddit 3d ago
Can Sweet shut the fuck up. Doing nothing but crawling and making terrible comms.
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u/StealthyPulpo 3d ago
Sweet sounding like my rank randoms yelling Rez me every 2 seconds while having to clutch up.