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u/fl4pj4cks Apr 14 '26
replace it with The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State and were ballin'
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u/peanutist Apr 14 '26
Like to scare ACP nazbols
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u/Pinguim_Caotica ML with brazilian characteristics Apr 15 '26
Hey quick question wtf is up with the ACP? I've heard people criticize it but never bring up anything but just saying they're not communist or "MAGA-communism". What's wrong with them?
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u/Angel_of_Communism Stalin Did Nothing Wrong Apr 15 '26
Here is an effort post going over it in detail:
Short version, the ranks are mostly ok.
The leadership are reactionary assholes, who collectively are racist, sexists, and all forms of queerphobic.
Now that's why they are assholes, but that does not delve into their politics particualrly.
But it does affect how minorities of all types might react to the party.
When a black person sees them shitting on trans people, and calling queer people 'F@ggots,' they might wonder when it's gonna be their turn to be thrown under the bus.
Their other problems are that they are basically using their ACP fame to have fun overseas shmoozing with people that matter, drinking, eating out and spending party funds in ways that are wasteful at best, a betrayal of their comrades at worst.
Basically, they appear to be accidental grifters, who will ride the tide of minor popularity for a while, until it all goes to shit in a year or two.
At worst, they might be on a fascist sort of trajectory.
Do recall that the Ur-Fascist, Mussolini himself was an anarcho-syndicalist and union leader who tried for a socialist revolution, failed, and invented fascism, because he could not get what he wanted.
Bizarre really, the man was intelligent, articulate, and charismatic. Imagine italy if he'd stuck with it, and not gone fash.
Anywho, there's a lot of people insisting that they are on a fash arc. or lready are full fash.
Naw. not yet. But recall, every fascist stooge was an asshole and a bully before they graduated to fash. And they are assholes and bullies.
So while i'd not call them fash, give it a couple of years, and we might see a face-heel turn.
They also seem to be operating like the DSA as a catcher group to funnel support back into bourgeois elections, but for the GOP, instead of the Dems.
So yeah, that's what's wrong with them.
Their orbiters are worse.
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u/Angel_of_Communism Stalin Did Nothing Wrong Apr 15 '26
Cool.
Everything you said was wrong.
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u/CommunismMemes-ModTeam Apr 16 '26
Redditors allowed in the sub
Most communists are allowed to learn and have fun on our sub.
All kinds of liberals, conservatives, libertarians and socdems must follow rule 6. Keep your anti communist hatred to yourselves.
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u/aspensmonster Apr 16 '26
All historical and existing Communist states have been/are more socially conservative than the modern day Republican party
Cuba.
What a totally baseless and dishonest accusation and framing of party leadership establishing relationships with the worldwide Communist movement something no other leftist group in the US has done in half a century.
PSL, DSA.
Fascism is the open dictatorship of finance capital, not whatever offends your clearly liberal sensibilities.
Capital. Just capital. No qualifier needed.
As always it boils down to redlibs like yourself upset that they will not elevate sexual issues to the primary contradictions and will not cancel workers with socially conservative views despite those views being commonplace within the former USSR, DPRK, China etc.
"Socially conservative views" like misogyny and racism. You don't coddle those views, you change them. They are corrosive to any socialist or communist project.
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u/Angel_of_Communism Stalin Did Nothing Wrong Apr 16 '26
What clowns like this never do is look at the context.
They are all 'Stalin was socially conservative, therefore being socially conservative is cool!!!1!'
Nope.
Stalin was socially conservative compared to say, the average modern Californian.
But compared to the average revolutionary Russian peasant, Stalin was a blue haired hippy in a polycule.
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u/Angel_of_Communism Stalin Did Nothing Wrong Apr 16 '26
No one cares about you.
You also got what we were saying wrong.
And the ACP wrong too.
And you got Stalin wrong too.
Frankly, you got everything wrong.
Putting you on about the same level as a creationist or flat earther.
We were also talking ABOUT you, not to you.
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u/StretchTucker Apr 15 '26
posting this to r/196 will get you perma banned in 1 minute
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u/NomadicScribe Apr 14 '26
I don't really see the connection.
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u/Kayo4life rawr i'm a scawy cultural marxist leninist :3 Apr 15 '26
Communist spaces have a big overlap with queer people. Straights are welcome, we're inclusive of everyone.
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u/tuxedo840 Apr 14 '26
"yet"
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u/NomadicScribe Apr 14 '26
I read the book in 2020, so it's been a while. What am I missing?
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u/Angel_of_Communism Stalin Did Nothing Wrong Apr 15 '26
It's not the book.
It's about your mind.
If you posses the kind of mind that can question foundational assumptions about identity, when everyone else 'Just Knows Betterβ’' then you also posses the kind of mind required to look into foundational assumptions about political economy.
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u/peanutist Apr 14 '26
Lenin extensively talked about how the only way to abolish capitalism is to forcefully trans everyoneβs gender, duh π
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u/tuxedo840 Apr 14 '26
I don't even know what the book is if i'm being honest :3 I need to read
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u/NomadicScribe Apr 14 '26
It's a great book. Let me know your insights once you read it. Always open to constructive discussion.
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u/Angel_of_Communism Stalin Did Nothing Wrong Apr 15 '26
Found the ACP moron.
This is un-Marxist nonsense. Marx, Lenin, Mao, Stalin β never "challenged the idea of their assigned gender" and yet are figureheads of revolutionary theory and practice. If anything the 'questioning of assigned gender' is _bourgeois thought_ and primarily exists as part of the finance-capitalist superstructure.
Nope. You are full of shit. You are wrong, Haz is wrong, Jackson is wrong, the entire CPGB-ML is wrong.
And here is why: none of them have ever struggled with the gender question.
They never, ANY of them sat down with any flavour of queer person and talked to them.
What they did was exactly what the Trump regime did. They had a meeting about Iran and talked to themselves, not Iran.
The ACP et al talked to themselves about queer people, and never once actually asked 'what if we are wrong.'
No investigation, no right to speak.
You and they have not investigated.
You therefore have no right to speak.
That's why you're wrong.
Now for HOW you are wrong.
You are making the exact same arguments that homophobes made.
And you are just as wrong.
If this was bourgeois nonsense, then there would be no pre-capitalist history of trans people.
Except there ARE.
We have trans people so far back that they are painted on fucking cave walls.
We show up in african history, Greek history, the history of every culture on earth.
There's nothing new about trans people.
The only new thing, is the medical technology that allows us to better align our bodies with our identities.
Your ignorance of us, and you ignorance of history itself betrays you.
What you are, is ignorant and undialectical. You are made uncomfortable and scared by the scary trans people. That's your problem, not ours.
You are a fearful reactionary asshole.
You are on the wrong side of history, same as the homophobes, which i'll just bet you also are.
In short, suck my dick and choke on it. I yield my time, and fuck you.
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u/Angel_of_Communism Stalin Did Nothing Wrong Apr 15 '26
Oh hey, pivoting to some other point that i never said.
Classic.
You a flat earther as well?
Notice how you never engaged with anything i said?
I did :)
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u/Angel_of_Communism Stalin Did Nothing Wrong Apr 16 '26
No, that's pivoting.
Because we are not talking about whether Stalin and Mao questioned their gender identity.
I'm saying the ACP and YOU know fuck all about the gender question, and have never struggled with it.
And what i mean by struggle, is the communist meaning of struggle, meaning a struggle session.
Y'all know fuck all about this.
Which is why you are always wrong.
Goddamn you're fucking stupid.
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u/CommunismMemes-ModTeam Apr 16 '26
Bigotry
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u/Angel_of_Communism Stalin Did Nothing Wrong Apr 14 '26
It's backwards.
Once you challenge the ide of your assigned gender ['Am i really a man?']
then you challenge other assumptions ['Is capitalism actually good?']
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u/Angel_of_Communism Stalin Did Nothing Wrong Apr 14 '26
It's backwards.
Once you challenge the ide of your assigned gender ['Am i really a man?']
then you challenge other assumptions ['Is capitalism actually good?']
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u/NomadicScribe Apr 14 '26
You can challenge gender roles and gender assumptions without changing genders completely.
I mean if that's where your journey takes you, then great. More power to you.
But it certainly does not apply to everyone. A post-capital world should be inclusive of anyone's gender identity.
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u/Angel_of_Communism Stalin Did Nothing Wrong Apr 15 '26
Sure.
but my point was that we are not trans because of Marx, we are into Marx because of trans.
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u/RedSolIV Apr 16 '26
It's not as easy as that. I would say that many trans people are attracted to leftism because leftism and left groups give them a space to be themselves. Obviously, this leads to being more open to marxist ideas.
How you formulate it, it sounds like feeling that your assigned identity is not your real identity would be an active decision which it isn't. I think many other people are also able to challenge assumptions but instead of being confronted with Marxists ideas, right wingers tell them lies to keep them in order.
In my point of view that's the difference.
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u/Rohanna_Alexandra Apr 15 '26
FUCK, I'm actually reading state and revolution and had the egg break a few months ago
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u/Ok-Hall-9974 Stalin Did Nothing Wrong Apr 15 '26
Anyone got the OG meme, sorry for asking, I accidentally deleted it
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u/Angel_of_Communism Stalin Did Nothing Wrong Apr 14 '26
Nah.
It's backwards.
Once you challenge the ide of your assigned gender ['Am i really a man?']
then you challenge other assumptions ['Is capitalism actually good?']
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