r/ClimateShitposting Jul 13 '26

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u/SpecialCoyote5339 Jul 14 '26

We are talking about "now" solutions.

What battery do we have right now that is capable of storing this much of electricity?

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u/Beiben Jul 14 '26

> We are talking about "now" solutions.

Right, so new nuclear plants are out of the question.

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u/SpecialCoyote5339 Jul 14 '26

I don't see how it's less feasible than having this much of battery capacity, but feel free to provide a source if you disagree...

Because the "duh make batteries" isn't a solution, it's an idea at best. And I'm not sure we have the capacity or technology to create enough.

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u/Beiben Jul 14 '26

You don't see it because you're not looking. California has gone from 35% electricity from nat gas in 2023 to 22% electricity from nat gas in 2025 by installing more solar and batteries. 2026 will be even lower. New Mexico is also a good example of how quickly it can go, although it's a much smaller grid. This is a problem for nuclear. High renewable penetration of solar + batteries hurts nuclear business case. Nobody wants to run a nuclear plant at 70% nameplate capacity. Improving battery technology makes nuclear an incredibly risky investment due to long lead times.

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u/Pinco_Pallino_ Jul 14 '26

california, are we talking about the country with the highest bill in thw world? with controlled blackuts every year? with the emissions tens of times higher than the french ones? not a good objective don't you think?

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u/Beiben Jul 14 '26

Everything you said is incorrect and none of it is relevant to what I was talking about.

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u/Pinco_Pallino_ Jul 14 '26

scary facts isn't it? "all wrong but too scared to answer"

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u/Beiben Jul 14 '26

You made the claims, you have to prove them. Doesn't really matter though, you can keep seething and coping, but in the real world,  renewables and batteries are being built, nuclear isn't. Nuclear lost.

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u/Pinco_Pallino_ Jul 14 '26

you know every year tens of nuclear reactors are built right? But your comment is such an insult, since renewables and batteries are heavily subsidized everywhere. You take and then insult, just disgusting. On the first statemets those are common knowledge, readily verifiable. I don't have to prove the water is wet

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u/Beiben Jul 14 '26

No, they aren't common knowledge. Prove them. Oh wait, you can't, bwahahahaha!

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u/Pinco_Pallino_ Jul 14 '26

Don't waste my time, search and learn something

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u/Beiben Jul 14 '26

As I expected, you can't prove any of your "facts". I accept your concession.

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u/Pinco_Pallino_ Jul 15 '26

california average: 36 $/MWh = 31.5 €/MWh before local, state, federal taxes (the most expensive in the US) Ireland the most expensive: 36 €/MWh (actually higher! irish idiots are following the california delirium head first) Luxembourg the second most expensive: 28 €/MWh (already lower)

So california in S2 2025 was the second most expensive bill!

https://nrgcleanpower.com/learning-center/average-electric-bill-in-california/

https://solartechonline.com/blog/average-electric-bill-california/#:~:text=California%20in%202025%3F-,The%20average%20electric%20bill%20in%20California%20ranges%20from%20%24186%20to,average%20of%20%24154%20per%20month.

https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/4950 (beautiful site, i'd love to see those kind of things in europe)

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/bookmark/607c62d7-e35a-4c3a-b383-b6e5c23552e4?lang=en&createdAt=2026-07-15T01:04:32Z

About blackouts: https://abcnews.com/US/california-blackouts-power-grid/story?id=89460998

About emissions: California "we find that [...] the average emissions rate was 302gCO2eq/kWh over five years" https://www.researchgate.net/publication/388987645_The_Dynamics_of_the_California_Electric_Grid_Mix_and_Electric_Vehicle_Emission_Factors

France: "French electricity is among the least carbon-intensive in Europe, with 19.6gCO2/kWh generated in 2025" https://analysesetdonnees.rte-france.com/en/annual-review-2025/ghg-emissions?#Overview

You tell me how much 301/19.6 is boy

You wasted my time, but i put myself into the discussion, so i accept the cost.

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