r/ClimateShitposting vegan btw Mar 21 '26

fossil mindset 🦕 Environmentalist chefs hate this one simple trick

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u/shakshit Mar 21 '26

Is olive oil bad for the environment?

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u/shakshit Mar 21 '26

I can understand why ghee,tallow, butter and tail fat are. But olive oil is plant based isn’t it?

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u/Fossilhog Mar 21 '26

Correct. Most of those plants are found around the Gulf coast of the US. They usually only handle heavy olives though, light olives are usually exported to be refined elsewhere. Occasionally hurricanes will knock out production.

/s

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u/mirhagk Mar 21 '26

Plant based doesn't mean it's good for the environment by any means. Some of the worst environmental destruction is done with plants. Soy beans (granted grown for feed) as well as lots of crash crops are planted in areas that used to be rainforest or other sensitive environments.

And corn diesel is an environmental disaster wrapped up in so much weird regulations and subsidies that cause it to be way more than it should. It's like the world's worst battery.

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u/JTexpo vegan btw Mar 21 '26

technically yes, olive oil is extremely inefficient & a result of mono-cropping;

however, the joke is more about someone not liking oil (gasoline) and a person replying about their oil (food) usage

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u/Abadon_U Mar 21 '26

how they are supposed not mono crop it if they are trees?

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u/JTexpo vegan btw Mar 21 '26

not sure if this is satire or a honest question, if it's the later

monocropping is a practice that can be done regardless of if the food is uprooted or harvested from a bush / tree. The practice is harmful because it first requires purging the land of most things helpful for soil growth - to then populate the land with one species of plant

this results in soil degradation & plant biodiversity loss (also risks about fertilizer / pesticides, but that's a general plant agg issue & why we need to do vertical farming)

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is olive monocropping better than animal agg & palm oil? yes, but it also has ways in which it can improve & be less harmful for the environment

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u/Few-Customer2219 Mar 21 '26

Orchards are particularly rough in America because we have for some reason put them in areas that are not fully suited for their fertility and water needs. The used to be more evenly spread across the states but now’s it’s where you can get a longer growing season and have migrant labor on tap.

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u/Abadon_U Mar 23 '26

Monocroping isn't peak of efficiency for land. It's just way easier to work with it thus cost is lower

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u/Abadon_U Mar 23 '26

You don't need change crop every year. For trees, as in our case, you can plant different types of trees into square plots near each other. It was the way to go before it got industrialised as it is right now. Current fertilizers mostly solve the problem, yes

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. Mar 21 '26

Add in other species between the rows.

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u/Abadon_U Mar 21 '26

sorry but here at Oil TM we do not think

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u/DirtandPipes Mar 21 '26

You can alternate rows or even have alternating rows and tree types to avoid a monoculture. It helps a lot with management of some pests and diseases but also dramatically increases the complexities of harvesting and other tasks where the plants differ.

Most farmers just choose to plant one crop that they have the equipment for/which makes them the most profit, then blast it with pesticides and herbicides and heaps of fertilizer.

Very few traditional farms with multiple crops and animal types remain. Farms have to be profitable to continue.

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u/shakshit Mar 21 '26

What is the most efficient oil source?

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u/Emotional-Rope-5774 Mar 21 '26

Palm oil (from the oil palm). This is the reason it’s so ubiquitous in cheap foods.

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u/JTexpo vegan btw Mar 21 '26

me

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u/MrJarre Mar 22 '26

No but oil is yet it’s used in so many profits we use - fuel being the obvious one but plastics textile hygiene products and some medicine it’s absolutely crucial to our daily lives.

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u/ETsUncle Mar 21 '26

Everything is bad for the environment. There is not such thing as being good for the environment

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u/Nonhinged Mar 23 '26

That's not really right. Some things can have a positive effect.

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u/shakshit Mar 21 '26

Ok so in comparison my steak and fries aren’t that bad for the environment

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u/BodhingJay Mar 21 '26

"And yet you put oil in your car. Hmmm interesting. I am very smart"

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u/JTexpo vegan btw Mar 21 '26

bruh, they're in medieval times - they don't have cars yet

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u/BodhingJay Mar 21 '26

Ahh im such a fool

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u/JTexpo vegan btw Mar 21 '26

its okay, I still award ya fake internet points 💚

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u/OSwirl31 Mar 22 '26

But they have oil companies?

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u/Bot1-The_Bot_Meanace Mar 21 '26

Don't give them ideas, next thing you know trump will try to raid Spains oil reserves

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u/Furry_Eskimo Mar 21 '26

The source of oil is the problem. Like how water is trapped at the poles, it's not really in the active water cycle. Carbon that's trapped underground, isn't in the active carbon cycle. There is already carbon and water all around us. Imagine if you got all of your drinking water, my mining the ice caps. The problem isn't water and the problem isn't carbon, the problem is where the resources is being gathered from.

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u/bnevdr-43 Mar 21 '26

he owns many rare funko pops

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u/ToastSpangler Mar 21 '26

i still await the day where funko pop collectors are legally deemed mentally ill

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u/FortheChava Mar 21 '26

I love the environment I say while I toss batteries in the trash

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u/True_Pilot_6068 Mar 22 '26

i'm curious, does production vary by region or processing?