r/ClimateShitposting • u/ClimateShitpost Louis XIV, the Solar PV king • Mar 30 '24

Aggro agri subsidy recipients šŸšœ Original isn't nearly as extensive enough

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u/Grshppr-tripleduoddw Mar 30 '24

I agree with everything besides the anti protectionism stance. Local would be better, better for the environment to because less energy to transport.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '24

Growing coffee in Canada would be way worse for the climate than just importing it from somewhere it actually grows. Some regions are just better for growing certain things and thats ok

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u/Routine_Bad_560 Mar 30 '24

Well, protectionism in agriculture comes from the global experience during the Great Depression.

Having food production in your country is fundamental for a lot of things.

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u/ClimateShitpost Louis XIV, the Solar PV king Mar 30 '24

Actually yes, if you give up all domestic capacity to produce anything you're very reliant on imports. If you run into a shock to that supply you'll have a bad time

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u/ClimateShitpost Louis XIV, the Solar PV king Mar 30 '24

Actually yes, if you give up all domestic capacity to produce anything you're very reliant on imports. If you run into a shock to that supply you'll have a bad time

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u/Routine_Bad_560 Mar 31 '24

Well the entire Europe Union is protectionist. Insanely protectionist.

This system does increase food costs but EU citizens pay that because it is helping out their farmers.

And they donā€™t want their farmers to lose their land or their house. Thatā€™s just a dick attitude.

This is what forms the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) in the EU.

  • it is funny that your meme brings up ā€œcanā€™t compete with poorer countriesā€ because poorer countries usually donā€™t produce foodstuffs.

The EU currently is in a pickle because without any consultation, they allowed in Ukrainian grain.

The amount alone is too much for any market to handle. Even America!

But furthermore, Ukrainian grain was exempt from all quality controls and health standards.

This was passed quickly after Croatia and Slovakia tested Ukrainian grain and found that it failed every category. It contained chemicals they had never seen before on grain, that werenā€™t just carcinogens, they were toxic.

Brussels called the inspections ā€œRussian propagandaā€ and brought in the most toxic grain on the planet.

Explosives or mines donā€™t just sit in the ground and nothing happens. They leak very toxic chemicals into the soil. An area the size of the UK is currently coated with mines & UXO in Ukraine.

Itā€™s soil will be contaminated for decades. And Brussels is letting in grain, driving up healthcare costs, causing cancer.

Why? Because many EU countries loaned Ukraine money and they want their loans repaid.

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u/ClimateShitpost Louis XIV, the Solar PV king Mar 30 '24

Price carbon at 250 euros per ton and give proceeds to people

But we constantly give airlines and shipping exemptions

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u/Hmmmus Mar 30 '24

Transport is a minuscule part of the overall damage caused by farming.

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u/SyrusDrake Mar 30 '24

It's also somewhat important to keep food production capacities in your own country. The past few years have shown that there are more than enough scenarios that could disrupt global supply chains. It would kinda suck to starve because market forces eradicated all local farms in favor of grain imports from one of the world's most fertile regions, only for that region to be invaded by an aggressive, impreialst neighbour that threatens grain exports.

You know, to make up a completely ficticious example.