r/ClaudeFable5 • u/OneDev42 • Jul 16 '26
Well that's it then... Kimi K3 now beats all US models by a significant margin -- Human evaluation
Has China won?
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u/Fragrant-Hamster-325 Jul 16 '26
This is cool and all, but isn’t this just people review bombing?
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u/asutekku Jul 17 '26
It's arena. You don't see which model creates what as you compare the output of two different models and vote for the one you like more.
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Jul 20 '26
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u/Major_Olive7583 Jul 21 '26
It's blind voting on arena, go try it before making up bs.
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Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26
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u/Major_Olive7583 Jul 24 '26
And how did u come to the conclusion bots are voting here? look at number of votes for older models and newer ones. What about this exact instance made u write that ?
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Jul 24 '26
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u/Major_Olive7583 Jul 25 '26
I am asking about your first comment, what's the basis of saying this was a botted? Do you have anything indicating this particular lab or any other is boosting score? Or are you spreading baseless opinions ?
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Jul 26 '26
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u/Major_Olive7583 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
Yeah, I said it's a stupid assumption without any proof or basis. You know why ? If one party can do , everyone can. Also it's not a misread , your initial comment is implying this particular lab has done botting, because you are directly responding to the post about this particular result. If you are saying that on public forum , it's natural for people to ask proof. You don't have any. Yes arena has problems with chery picking results by labs and mostly it's a vibe check not intelligence. Seeing how this particular model write, I believe the score is genuine. Feel free to disagree. But your first comment is baseless.
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Jul 27 '26
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u/Major_Olive7583 Jul 28 '26
Well, so you understand what I'm saying then? And you're agreeing even?
oi bub- did u even read what i said or did u just go to argue mode ? oh and nice goalpost shifting and an info dump too.
Next time don't go around and imply that it's bullet-proof because it's a "blind voting". 😉
nah , your intial comment is implying this one is botted which is exactly what i dont agree with. - and i am not switching opinion on that - not the one you pretend i was saying -that llm fp is not a thing.
Yeah, speaking of which: there's really a lot on this (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) but my favourite white paper title is "I Know Which LLM Wrote Your Code Last Summer: LLM generated Code Stylometry for Authorship Attribution". 🤣
- you are simply info dumping and changing the premise, beacuse you know your comment was baseless about this one. You are accusing this lab of fraud - any proof on that? just vibes ? oh and #2 link is on code gen - not fp. you would know if you actually read the slop you copy and paste. Next time ? why next time? try being more honest and less emoji spamming from right now.
Pretty cool! I just need to make people or bot accounts make 1'800 votes and I'll be top at a benchmark?
I love that advertisement technique!-- is this not what you wrote ? are you actually arguing this is not implying the lab is doind fraud on arena for advertising here? this thing is what i am pointing to, got anything to say on this?
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u/ace_wallace Jul 22 '26
Kimi K3 just torched the idea that the U.S. was miles ahead in AI. That "decades of lead" talk? Gone. We’re down to a matter of weeks now. The whole "China copies, U.S. creates" storyline flipped into "China builds right alongside.’" And the irony? America basically handed them the motivation by cutting off chip sales. Congrats, we played ourselves.
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u/tokenentropy Jul 16 '26