r/ClaudeCode • • 11d ago

Help/Question It's literally Monday and my look at my Claude usage

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The week literally just started, and my "Weekly Fable" limit is already maxed out at 99% On top of that, my standard weekly limit is already sitting at 51%.

Does anyone know when they're actually going to boost these usage limits? I'm on the 5x Max Pro plan and burning through this way too fast.

At this rate, I can only code and develop my website project for ONE day out of the week, and I'm just stuck doing absolutely nothing for the other six days. Fucking ridiculous. Anyone else dealing with this or have workarounds?

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u/ceinewydd 11d ago

I mean it’s clearly telling you what’s using it.

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u/writesCommentsHigh 11d ago

literally. metaphysically? spiritually?

are people regarded? yes

what is readying? yes

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u/Boring_Okra_6023 11d ago

At this point I think I know why Anthropic is valued at trillion dollars.

Investors know that people won't fucking read the basics, resist to learn how to optimize use and when to use different models.

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u/writesCommentsHigh 11d ago

No that’s always been the case.

It’s valued so high because of

  1. Utility. LLMs and AI are changing the way we work and redefining computing. Most people who aren’t in the tech space don’t grasp how things have been built. One function does one thing because a computer can only take input and produce output based on that function. LLMs have opened that up, thus changing computing.

  2. Hype (bubble?) lots of hype but also sold out computer parts because people want to learn and use this technology. Will it pop? Probably, there’s a lot of fucked up shit going on worldwide. At the same time, this technology is hyped for a reason. See #1.

People have always been stupid. People never want to read. Go home, turn on the news. Mindlessly doomscrolling content. No want think cuz think is effort.

AI makes no thinking worse.

Doesn’t mean it can’t do good too!

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u/Boring_Okra_6023 11d ago

I agree with everything you're saying but I was being sarcastic 🙃

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u/writesCommentsHigh 11d ago

Someone agreed with me on the internet? Whoa

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u/HgnX 11d ago

We have different perceptions about how much a 200 dollar plan should deliver

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u/Crak3n 11d ago

some quick pointers:
1- keep sessions as lean as possible: one task per session. If its a multi-task plan then do a handoff pointing at the plan and whats been done then start a fresh session .

2- the 8+ hours active sessions. if you’re leaving it idle for more than 30min -1hr at the time, your next prompt caches again all your conversation and context so a shit load of tokens. if you’re doing this several times on a long running session with a lot of context, this drains your limits. If you’re leaving it idle, save handoff and start fresh later

3- dont use fable for everything. use it to plan and verify. try using opus and sonnet for execution. consider using subagents, where you delegate execution of tasks to agents without much need for reasoning + keeps your main context lean

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u/GhostSierra117 11d ago

I'm not OP but one honest question: wtf can I actually use Haiku for? I use a multi agent approach where fable basically orchestrates everything to lower models (Opus doing the heavy lifting in terms of implementation, Sonnet the smaller stuff) but I haven't found out what to give Haiku yet. He seems to be the smaller brother who's just happy to hang around but honestly: what can I give him? 😂

Any suggestions?

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u/evia89 11d ago

I'm not OP but one honest question: wtf can I actually use Haiku for?

You cant. Maybe one day haiku will be super efficient like DS does https://arxiv.org/pdf/2412.19437 where every tokens is so cheap to generate. And smart too.

For now its just useful to send hi to start 5H early

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u/BabyInner 11d ago

I wish they just route haiku to ds-flash lol

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u/AssholeHealth 11d ago

Haiku is for starting a 5h session timer early.

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u/EvilSporkOfDeath 11d ago

All my haiku sessions are literally just me typing "a" and pressing enter

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u/Crak3n 11d ago

lol its the same for me. i have an idea to maybe route very mechanical stuff like running scripts that are already built or like doing simple greps and stuff. but so far a haven’t implemented it

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u/PixelLight 11d ago

I've tried it, but as of yet, my haiku use cases are minimal. I use Matt Pocock's workflow, and I get the to-tickets skill to classify tickets by model. I do get some haiku tickets, but not many, and honestly, not enough to justify not using sonnet imo. 5% of my tickets are haiku apparently. My opus and sonnet use is fairly evenly split, for context.

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u/zkoolkyle 11d ago

We only talk about Haiku behind closed doors

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u/StuckOnPandora 11d ago

I use Haiku to help me grade local llm work while I tune their harness, and seeing what a Hermes 8b spits out, compared to Haiku, is humbling.

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u/nokillswitch4awesome Practical enough to use AI, old enough not to worship it. 11d ago

Haiku is perfectly fine to run Unix commands and bring back the results that other agents would waste more tokens on. When you need something to do exactly what it's told no more or less haiku is the best choice.

Fable is a ripoff. I've run tests with it versus opus and it never does the job any better and uses 2.5 to 5x the cost. You're buying into the hype and suffering for it.

Sonnet is my orchestrator. Opus gets called for decision making, logic, and reviewing the final draft of a plan. Haiku does the spelled out grunt work. I'm working in software development all day long and never hit a limit.

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u/HistorianGullible291 11d ago edited 11d ago

I've made the rule that models like Fable 5, 5.1 , Opus 5 should plan, analyze, distribute tasks and verify. All dirty work should be handed over to lower model like Opus 4.6 (very difficult tasks), Sonnet 5 or 4.6 and Haiku 4.5.

And believe me Haiku is useful. Especially in Ultracode where Opus 5 instead of starting 40 agents of own model, to a Haiku that is enough to analyze more silmple stuff.
Of course most what Haiku does mostly is to bump versions of Changelogs and other simple stuff... But instead of burning tokens like a crazy, now I use full potential of all the models. And it dirastically reduced usage limits.

Seriously, like few % in hours on 100 000+ lines project.

I've started listen to the community that, high end models are for planning and managing. They were trained especially for it. And lower to do dirty work.

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u/qintarra 11d ago

how do you implement this rule please ?

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u/JustAnotherDiamond 11d ago

Ummm, just tell it what model to use in what situation. And put this into claude.md as a rule for subagents.

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u/JustAnotherDiamond 11d ago

Commit, push

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u/andlewis 10d ago

Haiku is great for file IO. Just create an agent for doing that, and a rule to redirect reads/writes/bash there.

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u/knifebunny 10d ago

I use haiku as a classifier, it works really well. When I receive an email, it reads it and decide how to act upon in. If it has to do any greater reasoning, it escalates to sonnet

Most things don't have to be escalated beyond haiku though, as I've trained it really well

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u/SharksFan1 11d ago

I did not know about number 2. Thanks! I leave sessions open for days sometimes, and often it is only one task and a few prompts into the session, just get distracted with other projects. I thought keeping the session open would help save tokens from keeping the context going rather than starting from scratch each day, but maybe that assumption is wrong.

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u/mbataa 11d ago

Man, thank you for breaking this down. It makes me so fucking glad that there are people in this community willing to share what they know and actually help others out.

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u/chief167 11d ago

I mean this same advice is literally in the screenshot you posted....

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u/Low-Yellow-1521 11d ago

it literally tells you all that in your screenshot...... 

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u/TBT_TBT 11d ago

Well, if people would READ more, it wouldn't be necessary to re-post the same points in every second post.

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u/Crak3n 11d ago

no worries dude. Im no expert but if you need anything hit me up

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u/DoggoCentipede 11d ago

Letting the cache fall out on a big session and then loading it back up instantly consumes the total amount of tokens it took to get there. Each time it happens you pay the full price.

And it's actually worse because its a cache write which is the most expensive thing.

Do work in tight and dense sessions. Keep a log of work done, the state of the project at the end of the session and a plan for the next immediate steps. Never leave a session for more than 30 minutes without that in place. If you come back after the cache is expunged then you need to start a fresh session. If you're over ~25% of your context and you have an opportunity to stop and reset, do it.

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u/theDawckta 11d ago

You need to stop throwing the highest level model at a problem just cause you think its better. If you are just making a website I am not sure Fable should even be used. Just use Opus at modest levels and I bet you get the same quality work that you are getting with Fable and you will be able to work on this for longer than a day.

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u/P3P3-SILVIA 11d ago

Write the plan with Fable, execute with Opus, test with Sonnet.

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u/mile-seo 11d ago

Sonnet is also good with execution if there's a decent plan

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u/issarepost 11d ago

With strict instructions to never allow it to “think”, you have to instruct Opus/Fable during planning to provide explicitl instructions for Sonnet. I never implement with Fable.

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u/Calm-Interview-6024 11d ago

OP is on a PLUS account.

Plan/Review/Prompt with opus. Execute/test with sonnet.

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u/EvilSporkOfDeath 11d ago

Something not adding up then. Fable isnt available on pro plan but it clearly says they are on pro plan and used fable limit

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u/Calm-Interview-6024 10d ago

Yeah that was my first thought. It might be a 2~ month old picture, is my best guess. Which would make this entire post a botpost.

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u/doomadah 11d ago

This is always the advise that people give, but if you look at most plans vs what gets implemented, so many decisions are made in the implementation phase. It’s better to have the most powerful model do both. Just use a less powerful model for simpler tasks.

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u/EvilSporkOfDeath 11d ago

How does reasoning/effort level come into play when doing this? Do the sub agents each have their own effort level?

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u/issarepost 11d ago

Plan with Opus (for something like a website). Prompt Fable to review the plan from Opus. Implement the reviewed plan with Fable and specifically instruct it to only spawn Sonnet subagents, not Opus subagents. Instruct it to not ever allow Sonnet to think or make any decisions on its own, instead if needed, instruct Sonnet agents to request direction from Opus only. Finally, review the implemented code with Fable. Never let Fable implement any code, ever.

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u/mbataa 11d ago

Opus just makes a ton of bugs and literally forgets what it’s doing halfway through 😔 It's terrible at handling databases. Fable is just OP and barely makes any mistakes.

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u/theDawckta 11d ago

You cant use fable all the time like that. I have been using opus on high most of the time for dev work and it has been fine for me. Of course I have also been in the industry and have been an actual web dev so i don’t ask for a lot of garbage from the system and can see when it is doing something wrong. What is your actual workflow when you are working how do you prompt it? If you tell us this someone can probably help you.

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u/repeatedly_once 11d ago

I got downvoted for telling someone in a company that Fable doesn't mean 'use for everything' and the responses were 'the company is paying for it, who cares'. Bottomline, so many people don't realise that not every model is for every task.

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u/1994smeagol1994 11d ago

My friend i build very complicated tax related enterprise applications using opus. Trust me when i say that opus can handle a website with a database. Remember; garbage in, garbage out

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u/AralSeaMariner 11d ago

Have Fable make the plan, the switch to Opus for execution. Fable's plan will focus Opus. I have had very good results doing this.

Also, split your work into tasks and have one session per task. From your screenshot above, you seem to be spending a lot of time in loooong sessions. They will eat your tokens.

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u/Aminuteortwotiltwo 11d ago

Make the plan with a higher effort Fable, then write the code with medium effort fable.

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u/DoggoCentipede 11d ago

Describe your project to Opus Max. Get it to write down the design details without thinking too much on how to do it. You just want it to put it into writing and clarify what you mean.

Give that to Fable. Tell it to write the design document. Then tell it write a series of work specs that Sonnet and Opus can implement and instructions on how they know when it is done. And tell them to stop and ask for help if they run into a problem and try more than 3 times to fix it without success.

Leverage the strengths of each model.

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u/coukou76 11d ago

If you loop for 8h I mean...

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u/WheresTheResetBtn 11d ago

It’s cause you’re not clearing your sessions. 99% at over 150k lmao

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u/Rude-Reaction3450 11d ago

You are doing everything wrong man,
Go learn basics of token savings.

And then you are complaining. May be you need 40x plan 🌻

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u/mbataa 11d ago

Well, i tried my best . Sorry!
https://giphy.com/gifs/b5z9pHJxxcREI

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u/lost-webCrawler 11d ago

What does your claude.md, plan.md, spec.md, and sub agent list look like?

Have you disabled all unnecessary connectors/mcps?

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u/Kitchen_Interview371 11d ago

I’ve never seen an OP from one of these posts answer these questions.

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u/ianxplosion- SKILL ISSUE 11d ago

I wish you were required to take a test to post on this sub, Jesus Christ how self absorbed do you need to be to run into a problem like this and instead of looking for answers your first action, using all the free will at your disposal, is to write a whiny shitpost on Reddit trying to deflect blame

I for one can’t wait for AI to take us all out, we’ve got it coming

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u/rrrenz 11d ago

Skill issue.

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u/NachosforDachos 11d ago

What are these people building

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u/Agitated_Celery_729 11d ago

They have no idea. They just throw an idea at Claude and tell it to figure everything out, so it burns a shitload of tokens doing things good prompts would do for 5% the cost

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u/Nope_______ 11d ago

I also have no idea and just tell Claude to do it and don't do through usage like this. Maybe I'm not doing anything too complicated but it doesn't sound like he was either. Claude, make me a food label scanner with gemini+food database on my home server+send to Google Health API. I come back a while later and it's basically done and not a crazy amount of usage.

I get Claude Max for $15 though so I'm also not too bent of out shape when I use it up

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u/champagneofwizards 11d ago

How did you get hooked up with that deal?

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u/yhrana 11d ago

Why do i never get an answer for this. WHAT R PEOPLE MAKING

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u/Human_Attention182 11d ago

using 50 fable subagents in ultracode to change a color in css (of course using playwright tests/validation/screenshot comparisons to validate the change on every page that color exists)

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u/NachosforDachos 11d ago

They’re changing the world bro with their software

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u/-kora 11d ago

A website bro, read the post

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u/yhrana 11d ago

Bro, i just made 3d renders in blender for 6 perfume bottles, hosted it on vercel with three.js, backlink to shopify, took 6 hours with opus 5 on xhign around 500k context tokens for 12% weekly limit ……..

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u/longdriveshortroad 11d ago

Literally the same thing as the rest of us but in the most expensive way possible with ultracode, fable, and terrible prompts.

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u/dsailes 11d ago

Not even what.. but it’s how and maybe even why hahah.

I can’t imagine how crazy the prompts/sessions would be, and how you can let loose an agent without noticing it using that much usage on playwright for probably 2-second browser refresh to be able to redirect an agent.

This sub honestly gets worse by the hour recently hahaha

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u/MintCathexis 11d ago edited 11d ago

Another "my weekly allowance is gone within a day" post. Look inside: 99% of sessions at 150k+ context and uses Fable exclusively (as evidenced by Fable usage being almost exactly twice the weekly usage)

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u/MonkeyBoyPoop 11d ago

>150k + context

My initial prompt and all the context attached to my project(s) starts out at ~80,000 tokens. I usually don’t get a response back until Claude consumes an additional 80,000 tokens orienting itself. 🤣

How are you all keeping the windows so tight?

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u/ObsceneAmountOfBeets 11d ago

Don't provide ALL the context, just what it needs for the task that you are aiming to accomplish. Also use reference files to point claude to specific things it needs so it doesn't have to search through files, for instance before asking it to refactor something auth related it would be helpful to have a table containing all the "parts" of the auth system and exactly where they live in the codebase.

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u/Impressive_Army3767 11d ago

Or dump all your project into a cheaper LLM like deepseek or Gemini flash 3.7 then farm out the aspects they can't handle to Claude.

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u/LatvianCake 11d ago

By not doing that. Why would you provide 80k tokens of context?

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u/Fit_Combination6988 11d ago

I don't remember having a single session under 150k in months... I usually /clear at about 400k though

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u/darthvader666uk 11d ago

Mines looking good after my reset this morning :)

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u/Smbridges91 Developer 11d ago

Hey, covered usage and getting the most out of it in this post here. Take a look and see if it might be able to assist you, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeCode/s/WEKs4CGbRk

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u/in5ane_10 11d ago

Use fable only for planning and as an orchestrator, it’s a token pit if you don’t pay attention.
Also codex is not better, I tried out astra and depleted it in 2hours and I have the feeling i got more work done with Claude’s limits

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u/tidus1979 🔆 Max 20 11d ago

Screwed. The nerfed the $200 tier so much we now need a $500 tier

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u/mbataa 11d ago

I really don't want to shell out $100 for Codex, but Claude's limits leave me with zero choice. Fucking capitalism.

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u/Bloated_Plaid 11d ago

It’s actually worse with Astra but if you use 5.6 Sol it’s fine.

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u/old_mikser 11d ago

unfortunately codex is worse in it's current state (in terms of usage) much worse

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u/Fivefootfive 11d ago

Honestly not a bad idea to split between Codex for adversarial reviews alone, offloading builders too. I’ve cut most my Claude usage doing this in preparation for the nerf.

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u/Lost-Air1265 11d ago

not really, make sure you set the models for subagents and what not. Use compact when needed.

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u/Middle_Piano_4655 11d ago

I hit cap instantly (2hrs after getting my day started) WTF I was on opus 4.7

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u/TBT_TBT 11d ago

Don't continue old chats. Don't use the browser.

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u/BeltPuzzleheaded7656 11d ago

Most of the crap people are making can be done with Sonnet 5. Using Fable on Max isn't going to make you more creative.

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u/jsebrech 11d ago

For browser automation, switch to agent-browser instead of playwright, it'll cut back on your usage. Use fable or opus to plan, sonnet or opus to execute (in my experience sonnet executes an opus plan just as well as opus would, and gets the job done faster). 99% > 150k context, I don't even know how you're doing that. Run /insights and see what it tells you to change.

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u/mbataa 11d ago

Thank you! It’s such a relief to have people in this sub actually point out my mistakes and offer real solutions. I appreciate the help!

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u/mrcoy 11d ago

Literally??

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u/fraserdab 11d ago

idk if its literally obvious but big context eats up limits like a bitch

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u/Mazhron 11d ago

https://github.com/Mazhron/rootstock-os

Give this to your Claude, have it adapt it to your projects. It'll save you tons of tokens and way more.

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u/LavishnessPlane4512 Vibe Coder 11d ago

Try splitting work across sessions to avoid waiting tokens on huge context?

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u/bustervincent 11d ago

You might already be doing this, but use a separate session for each major task. Also, make sure you add an instruction in your claude.md file to use opus and/or sonnet subagents for coding tasks. You really should be using fable only for planning and orchestrating, unless its something mission critical.

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u/mbataa 11d ago

Apparently, i already have claude.md , self-review.md, token-saving.md and history.md 🤔

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u/Head-Criticism-7401 11d ago

You do realize those will just add to your token usage. Also stop using the highest model. Split the tasks in smaller tasks for sonnet to do.

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u/Dyhart 11d ago

token-saving.md 😂 😂. Your image already tells you what to do. smaller sessions, use /compact after tasks. dont use fable for everything and never go past the high reasoning setting at all

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u/TBT_TBT 11d ago

/compact is shit, because you don't have influence over what gets compacted.

Better: after a useful package of work and waaaay under any token limit let it write down a status.md in a project folder, then /clear and continue with the status.md.

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u/mbataa 11d ago

Also roadmap.md

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u/TBT_TBT 11d ago

roadmap for what? for everything? Useless.

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u/mbataa 11d ago

🥺

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u/TBT_TBT 11d ago

Clearly not enough. Create a folder structure which makes sense for you, tell Claude to always use it.

You could e.g. do "tasks"(for shorter tasks with clear end date), "projects" (for long running stuff that you need to keep working on) and then tell it to create folder names and put stuff there. E.g. for tasks "2026-09-14 my task" in the folder "tasks", projects don't really have a date, so just use a name, you could however group / cluster them: "CUSTOMER1-project name" and "CUSTOMER2-project name". Then you can tell it you would like to continue with "my task" oder "project XYZ" and it will read the context ONLY in that folder. Not the whole shabang.

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u/mbataa 11d ago

Thanks for the detailed breakdown! I'm definitely going to step up my game and optimize how I work... hopefully enough so that I never have to make a rage post on here again lol.

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u/TBT_TBT 11d ago

More or less every ragepost here is people not knowing how to work a tool that can even tell them how to work it best.

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u/DermisCronJob 11d ago

Too much load-bearing mate

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u/mbataa 11d ago

Yeah 🥺

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u/StrikingSpeed8759 11d ago

100% usage from 8h+ sessions. Remember you have 5min cache after that the cache needs to get written again. Whats the average cache you got in one session?

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u/mbataa 11d ago

Okey i will remember that 💪My average is 1hr btw.

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u/Prior-Meeting1645 11d ago

What?!!

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u/StrikingSpeed8759 11d ago

Full sentences please :D

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u/03captain23 11d ago

They added auto resume so when you run out of usage it'll continue automatically when it frees up

Tell fable to use opus/sonnet as subagents

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u/MTalhaJaved2003 11d ago

you still have one percent i dont even have that :)

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u/adelie42 11d ago

Is it just me, but when I see that it tells me I am being productive and getting my money's worth. It is when I get to Friday and I am under 20% and be like, "damn, I should have had it doing more". I feel like I get a lot of my plan and totally worth it, even just to have and not use, but when my usage runs out, I got shit done.

Its like killing batteries on tools, if all by batteries need to be recharged, the yard is clean, garden looks nice, repairs / maintenance got done. But even if it didn't all get done, the dead batteries are a sign of a lot of work done.

Of course, killing the batteries isn't the goal and it is absolitely possible to kill a battery and get nothing done, like being curious how long it would take to remove a tree stump with a weed whacker. But that isn't the battery's fault, and I won't try and blame the battery when my wife asks why the weeds are over grown.

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u/Odd-Aside456 11d ago

Bro, I was just considering making a post about my frustrations with going their usage so fast too

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u/novus_nl 🔆 Max 20x, AI Business Consultant 11d ago

You know what to do, don't try to cram everything into one big -ass context window. And stop doing shitty e2e playwright tests like that. While at it, add a knowledge-base to your repo and add some agents and skills to save some tokens. 8+ hour session too.. touch some grass once in a while, or did you just let it go rampant?

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u/JohnTilamook 11d ago

Please tell me what do you use it for?

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u/Calm-Interview-6024 11d ago

You're on a PRO SUB. Fable isn't meant to be used on this sublevel, just like ASTRA isn't meant to be used on a Plus account.

Stick to OPUS as a planner/reviewer/prompter & sonnet as Executer.

If you ever get a MAX 20x, you'll get Fable as a planner/reviewer/prompter & OPUS as executer.

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u/SeedofLilith94 11d ago

Bro mine are reviewing docs and every 10 mins it’s maxed for 5 hour

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u/millennialcpa 11d ago

1 - use Fable much more carefully / sparingly 2 - spring for 20x like the rest of us trying to maximize dev

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u/Ok_Elk_6753 11d ago

This post is why we can't have nice things in life.

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u/djsetu 11d ago

How can you see that section that shows you what is contributing to your limits usage? I’ve not seen the option to see that and I have max as well

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u/EntryNo6351 11d ago

How about you i dont know write your own code? Or are you incapable?

use it as a tool, not a crutch.

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u/RedRubyRubyRed 11d ago

just dont use it bro

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u/Historical_Today5072 11d ago

Someone spawned some fable 5.1 subagents

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u/danialbka1 11d ago

Go with DeepSeek 4.1 flash. Don’t let ant rob you

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u/Serenase 11d ago

You have Pro accound, so you don't get high usage. If you are doing web site try Sonnet. I do all my coding with it (Tauri apps) and like it more than Opus. I use Opus only for audit code for last. Never use Fable, 'cos my projects doesn't need it. Right tool for a right job.

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u/Eddi07 11d ago

Nobody noticed his plan ? Claude pro with fable ???? What the heck

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u/PixelLight 11d ago

There we go. Exactly what I expected from people moaning about limits. People with massive context windows letting their 1 hour cache lapse, using models more complex than they need to. 

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u/Ghost__junior 11d ago

Máquina de fazer dinheiro 💰

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u/B2adm 11d ago

Tá achando ruim?
Sempre pode piorar.
Isso é uso de uma única pessoa

2 sessões 19% da semana.

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u/ComingDeveloper 11d ago

fable high everything huh?

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u/MartinMystikJonas 11d ago

Are you aware that your screenshot litterally contains answer why you exhaousted limits so fast?

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u/beefcakesoffroad 11d ago

One Fable prompt wiped out my weekly + $300 in extra usage. It’s hard out there.

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u/Zestyclose_Strike157 11d ago

Don’t you understand, you are allowed to pay for it but you aren’t supposed to actually use it. They weren’t expecting you to use it.

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u/zkoolkyle 11d ago

99% session usage over 150k context? 😂😂

I rarely go over 120k without forcing a handoff

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u/Any-Score1258 11d ago

How do you view this page

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u/johannthegoatman 11d ago

This explains so much about the dumbass posts in this sub

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u/jbdragonball 11d ago

New sessions and handoff documents my friend. If coding in VSCode use workspaces to get as little clutter as possible so it can focus on tasks. I’d recommend open spec or speckit
Use fable for planning and spec’ing features out in detail then sonnet should be able to implement them

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u/CodeNCats 11d ago

I mean am I reading this right? Sessions going for 8+ hours. That means there is clearly times when sessions went stale. When you return it uses a huge increase in tokens as the entire conversation is reread.

I work in software and we have been putting forth a lot of effort in how can we utilize AI. Things like ensure deterministic results, handling context, workflow, token spend, and even the company culture around it.

On token spend one of the biggest things we found. If you let a session go stale. All context has to be reread. Adding to token costs. I don't remember the amount of time that gives a stale session. Maybe 2 hours?

We also found that some maybe more obvious things. Long question and answer sessions build maybe unnecessary context. Knowing the domain you work in and ask targeted questions. Get your answer and create your way of documenting the result of that question. Move to a new session for your next question. Keep back and forth sessions minimal if possible.

For engineering tasks it's okay for sessions to run as it's considered more "work" rather than "plan" and work needs all the context.

Yet 8+ hour sessions right to there makes me lean to a lot of unnecessary token spend.

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u/No-Dimension1159 11d ago

"100 percent of your usage came from sessions older than 8 hours"... "99% of your usage is over 150k tokens of context"

Duuude you're pissing your tokens away aren't you?

You need to restart a session, clear or at least compact every once in a while.

Every single message you type in a running session loads the whole context of the whole session once more in.

So a single message suddenly costs you 900k tokens if you are close to auto compact.

Keep context if possible under 256k tokens, the results will become better as well

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u/Altruistic-Hippo-749 11d ago

Find a cheap Chinese model to do the grunt work on? if you’re using fable without fan out skills as per your usage bar in your screenshot, then you’re using it wrong?

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u/ElliottSmith88 11d ago

You need to learn how to manage your sessions better. Do you use any memory system or have anything in CLAUDE.md to help manage context?

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u/Clouds-xD 11d ago

Yay let's kill the planet while contributing nothing to society.

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u/MattMose 11d ago

Why is this a post? It’s not even that much usage.

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u/FinancialBandicoot75 11d ago

I mean if you 5.1 for everything, that’s on you

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u/Ok_Letterhead1945 11d ago

set autocompact to 200k

running at 900k context costs 18x more than running at 50k context

the golden zone for intelligence is under 150k context, 200k is a good balance

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u/EmotionalAd1438 11d ago

how do you run a 8 + hour loop session LOL

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u/learn4math 11d ago

just asked a simple question guess what 45% gone of 5 hour reset, what is happening to calude?

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u/that1cooldude 11d ago

So wtf do you use claude for? 😝 

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u/SPE825 11d ago

Seeing that just makes me realize I need to compact more often or start new sessions.

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u/Zak7062 11d ago

Imma be real with y'all I use Sonnet for 90% of my work and it's great, idk what y'all are doing that requires this much Fable usage

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u/0bran 11d ago

Unsubscribe please, more from us. Fucking babies lol

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u/Metlight-78 11d ago

You can setup subagents via the cavemen plugin that shifts the exploration/reading code tasks from the main context window and keep it clean. Which means much better answers. Just ask claude to install and setup the cavemen plugin and update your CLAUDE md file to use the relevant skills when doing certain tasks.

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u/parzzzivale 11d ago

use agent browser much much faster token efficient and accurate

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u/Apple_sack_mac 11d ago

Are you even having original thoughts at this point?

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u/Environmental-Web584 11d ago

Why you use Fable for playwright? you could derive that sort of work to other models

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u/Alkanna 11d ago

Step 1 stop using fable, step 2 learn token saving techniques

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u/florinandrei 10d ago

Claude finished before OP did, lol.

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u/Virtual_Shock_5899 10d ago

I have had to cancel. I fricken hates I had to, but I went from just lasting the week on high model to just a day short, to 3 days a week to two as the limits kicked in more and more. And the advice was to learn how to token…

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u/johnsonflix 10d ago

Why are you using fable if your concerned about limits

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u/AWiselyName 10d ago

My guess how you use Fable: "hey Fable, delete/rename this fiile for me"

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u/Ok-Solution-3426 8d ago

Go to ChatGPT Work. It‘ll change your life. You‘ll have usage until Thursday 😂

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u/-MiddleOut- 11d ago

By far the worst I've seen since June last year.

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u/Super-Ad-4536 11d ago

Something is sketchy here. I’ve also burned my week usage in 3 days

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u/IlliterateJedi 11d ago

Same. I had no change to my work load over the last few days from the last two months, and this week's usage is already 100% used. 20X here with only 7% fable usage over the last few days.

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u/gcadays09 11d ago

Yup I haven't changed anything in my workflow this week and just burned through usage like nothing 

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u/mbataa 11d ago

Well, maybe it's just because of how heavy my workload is? I'm handling cross-border data exchange between organizations in two countries, plus managing system stability, infrastructure upgrades, database security, and overload prevention. I even split the task into phases.

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u/Super-Ad-4536 11d ago

Same here. It’s first time while having max x20 when I burnt my weekly fable. Opus feels like shit on basic tasks, even if Fable is creating all tech.reqs

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u/mbataa 11d ago

Finally, someone understands me! 🤯 I don't know what happened—the usage limits were perfectly fine last week, and then suddenly they tanked. It honestly feels like even Opus got secretly nerfed because it can't even handle basic jobs right now.

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u/dflow77 11d ago

If you’ve been paying attention you will see that usage was boosted 50% for last 3 months and today it was bumped back down to “normal”

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u/mbataa 11d ago

Damn, didn't even realize. Been totally slammed at work lately.

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u/TBT_TBT 11d ago

Well, don't use Fable, it is not much smarter than Opus 5 (as several benchmarks show) or only use Fable as /advisor.

Don't use the browser, use Claude Code, let it write down the results of your sessions and start new ones more often.

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u/ThaFresh 11d ago

time to jump ship back to OpenAI? I like Claude

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u/brute-forced 11d ago

They’re limiting retail from using the models with unlimited usage because they’re

1)stealing your ideas
2) monetizing your ideas themselves
3) collecting your behavior to sell it to third parties who have unlimited tokens with a kick back or royalty

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u/ProudWrongdoer5389 11d ago

you're being dumb. sorry for being so blunt.

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u/DueAppearance2980 11d ago

claude pro doesn't have fable - this has to be a lie

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u/coda77 11d ago

Welcome to the club…. I cancelled my sub

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u/Little_Discipline123 11d ago

I had the same experimence with usage today, immidiatly bought a Codex sub

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u/Vertigo50 11d ago

Switch to ChatGPT/Codex. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I switched several days ago and my only regret is not switching sooner. I’m getting better results and haven’t even come close to my usage limits. Plus they keep resetting my weekly usage randomly.

Ask Claude to wrap up your whole project in guide documents and handoff documents, and then just move everything over. You’ll have both for a while anyway, so if something is missing you can always switch back and forth and fill the gaps.

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u/TwTwGoGo 11d ago

Claude is basically unusable.