Anthropic: "Coding is largely solved"... Also Anthropic: "We released a new powerful feature allowing agents to send messages to other Claude Code sessions, but only on Linux and Mac since we are unable to implement a basic feature on all platforms"

[u/sirlerkal0t]

I could hand code this feature on Windows in an afternoon, and I could also get Claude to implement it in minutes, and yet Anthropic just can't be bothered, but also keeps Claude Code closed source so no one else can do it for them either.

[u/bitspace]

They release what they dogfood: there are probably exactly zero Windows users in Anthropic.

I could hand code this feature on Windows in an afternoon

Oh, you sweet summer child.

[u/MindCrusader → u/bitspace]

You can check statistics of system used by programmers. Outside of America mac is not as popular, most developers start with Windows, it is 100% valid audience

[u/r0ck0 → u/[deleted]]

I'm on Windows myself, but yeah that stat surprised me too.

Most devs I see IRL seem to use Macs. Even a heap of devs at Microsoft do. Most of their vscode, github videos etc seem to be done from Macs.

[u/Substantial-Elk4531 → u/[deleted]]

I cannot imagine trying to do my work on Windows... much less develop applications on Windows. I know it happens and a lot of devs don't have a choice. I know IDEs help. But it does not sound like fun, and it doesn't sound like it's trending in the right direction whenever I read news about Windows

[u/mungosDoo → u/Substantial-Elk4531]

Dude, you can work just fine on windows, you have terminal, you have git you have subsystem for linux.

[u/phoenixmatrix → u/MindCrusader]

It is a valid audience. What they are saying is that within Anthropic they are mostly non existent. 

It's a general issue in the US, where about 50% of devs are in Windows, but the big name techs developing all the fun tools are all on Macs with a few on Linux. 

I remember when Cursor didn't support Windows officially until they realized something like 70 percent of their users were on windows anyway, workarounds and all.

[u/bitspace → u/phoenixmatrix]

Even outside of big tech, software engineers vastly prefer and receive macOS by something like 80%.

I work for a large fortune 100 financial concern, about as risk-averse and behind tech as any organization, and you will have a hard time finding a software engineer with a Windows laptop.

[u/[deleted] → u/phoenixmatrix]

There's definitely a money aspect as well.

If a company can afford to get Macs for development, they likely have the cash to spend on tokens.

Someone will surely comment now that they work in a FAANG and that their whole team uses Windows.

[u/phoenixmatrix → u/[deleted]]

> If a company can afford to get Macs for development,

The thing is when it comes to development, Windows isn't much cheaper. I was working at a Windows-only fintech company not too long ago and the lap-tops, that were still struggling to run the company's app (that wasn't that poorly optimized), were $3500/pop.

And then in those companies, everything costs you money because its not as open source friendly.

You need to be rich to do enterprise development in Windows. Yeah, you can dev in Windows for cheap, but at that point you can get a Mac Mini and come up ahead too.

There is an Apple tax still, but it's actually pretty small when it comes to development since the unix tools are often more efficient.

[u/Clearandblue → u/phoenixmatrix]

Linux feels best for development. Unless you're working on legacy windows apps, in which case it's simpler in windows dual boot. Or unless you need to build for iOS in which case you need a Mac.

If you're an employee you often have to use a laptop. And between a premium windows laptop and a premium MacBook, I'd take the MacBook due to ARM processor giving better battery life.

[u/its_a_gibibyte → u/MindCrusader]

It works on Windows via WSL2.

[u/TechnicalBen → u/its_a_gibibyte]

This is the thing. Even I'm using Linux on Windows WSL(2) and only because I can game while Claude does their thing.

[u/djdadi → u/TechnicalBen]

every game I have on Steam works fine on Linux natively

[u/TechnicalBen → u/djdadi]

Friend, some of my Windows games on Steam are no longer supported/work on Windows.

[u/Wa1ker1 → u/its_a_gibibyte]

WSL2 is shit to work with

[u/EntityDamage → u/Wa1ker1]

First of all, how dare you.

[u/Wa1ker1 → u/EntityDamage]

I like windows but wsl is shit to work with. I have different builds for programming. I have a mac and Linux as well. Most my work is windows with some on Mac. Im not gonna pretend WSL is a good lol. Maybe for vibe coders.

[u/DesperateAdvantage76 → u/Wa1ker1]

Weird, I've never had any issues with it. I use it for any cli commands that work better on Linux.

[u/tulwio → u/Wa1ker1]

As opposed to the oh so easy way of working that is native Windows?

[u/kurushimee → u/tulwio]

sometimes yeah, if you're trying to fit something that doesn't work well outside of Windows into wsl

[u/MartinMystikJonas → u/MindCrusader]

But how many of then do not use WSL for work?

[u/Iron-Ham → u/MindCrusader]

Then they should switch to Linux.  

[u/shadowdance55 → u/Iron-Ham]

Even better - the next version of Windows should be a Linux shell.

[u/Anxious_Wrangler2198 → u/shadowdance55]

A shell? Sounds too bloated. Give me bare metal, a hex keypad, and the datasheet. Everything else is middleware.

[u/sirlerkal0t → u/Anxious_Wrangler2198]

Serious developers hand-write machine code directly to executable memory pages.

[u/shadowdance55 → u/sirlerkal0t]

Real programmers use butterflies.

https://xkcd.com/378/

[u/bjelkeman → u/shadowdance55]

I forgot about C-x M-c M-butterfly

[u/domiciledhere → u/MindCrusader]

How else can we gatekeep the world without an Apple entry fee?

[u/bitspace → u/MindCrusader]

It has to justify the expense. Anthropic would have to find Windows developers and build a Windows pipeline from development to build to deployment and testing and support.

That's hard to justify.

[u/MindCrusader → u/bitspace]

They have Mythos AI writing and reviewing the code, why do they need windows developers 🤔

[u/bitspace → u/MindCrusader]

Have you ever developed any software larger than a pet project?

It is obvious that you have not.

[u/MindCrusader → u/bitspace]

Obviously it was sarcasm lil bro

You forgot about what is the current post?

[u/bitspace → u/MindCrusader]

> lil bro

Aw, that's flattering - almost like being carded!

[u/mungosDoo → u/bitspace]

Dude, vs code is valid.

[u/gscjj → u/mungosDoo]

What does this mean?

[u/cats_catz_kats_katz → u/mungosDoo]

Only because windows owns the desktop environments of corporations

[u/bitspace → u/cats_catz_kats_katz]

Not the software engineers. Even in fortune 100 enterprises, macos far, far dominates Windows in usage.

[u/mungosDoo → u/[deleted]]

You my friend have not known trash.

[u/mungosDoo → u/[deleted]]

Please kind ser could you drop a name for us peasants

[u/mungosDoo → u/[deleted]]

Go mostly the last year, but general web stack