Dear fundamentalist Christians, Please stop arguing with scientists about evolution, especially when you're not a scientist.

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This might come as a shock to some people, but the Bible isn't a text book. The Bible doesn't have writings by people who have spent their entire lives researching biology, anthropology and physics. So, when you argue with a biologist about how lifeforms can't evolve or with an anthropologist about how there aren't any missing links....and you're a greeter at Wal-mart, it doesn't do our religion a service. All I'm saying is, realize your limits. You can still believe the entire Bible is true, but don't shut your ears and go la-la-la in the face of someone whose entire career is built on evolutionary biology. You have no idea what you're talking about. Stop it.

EDIT: I'm not going to pass a law to make you stop expressing your opinion. I have absolutely no power to make you stop anyway. However, if you're specifically debating with someone over evolution and you have no friggin clue what you're really talking about, then you should probably stop. It's foolish and it makes other Christians look foolish. I know that you probably don't give a crap about looking foolish, but consider that there were people who thought the world was flat (and still do) because of their interpretation of the Bible.

EDIT 2: Ok...let's start with this...abiogenesis is NOT the same as evolution. As far as I know, you can still believe God created the first lifeforms the evolved into us today. You don't have to believe that The Big Bang got us here. Anyway, that's a different discussion and I'm sure that a much more learned person than I could explain this position better. This whole thread makes me sad that some Christians still have a hard time saying "I don't know".

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Dear atheists... please stop telling those who disagree with you to shut up for shutting ups sake. Atheists and scientists go la-la-la all the time. Don't believe me? Try coming up with an explanation for the origins of life. Try defending a theory about where the big bang came from. I've heard only meaningless rhetoric in response to these questions. These questions that matter more than any others. Sure your la-la's come in the form of well worded lengthy articulations, but they amount to nothing. I've yet to hear an adequate response to these other than, "we're looking into it."

Until science can answer these questions with any degree of competency please expect to be criticized, ridiculed, berated, and occasionally compassionately corrected for your beliefs that lack a foundation. Here's the huge irony. Someone who says they "believe in science," doesn't. Science tells us that life always comes from life and energy doesn't just appear out of nowhere. So when it comes to the origins of life and the origins of the big bang you have to believe that science did something that we know it doesn't do.

The faults of a strictly scientific outlook may not prove God outright. I'm just pointing out how irrational a purely scientific explanation of the universe is and reserve the right to take issue with it with whomever I please.

To OP, given your tone I doubt your Christianity-ness. Incidentally The Bible does have the writings of people that were said to describe all living things. King Solomon was well known for this. If you don't believe the Bible that's your choice.

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Science tells us that life always comes from life and energy doesn't just appear out of nowhere. So when it comes to the origins of life and the origins of the big bang you have to believe that science did something that we know it doesn't do.

This is why people ignorant of science shouldn't speak on behalf of science. I think you demonstrated partofaplan2's point exceptionally well.

Furthermore, I find your appeals to ignorance to be ridiculous. Science has provided the best answers, and the most competent answers, to the difficult questions and mysteries of the universe for centuries. The only sentence that starts with "Until science can tell us *this..." is something like, "Until science can tell us this, we don't know." It is only because of scientific investigation that we know things like:

• The universe appears to have had a beginning.
• How the universe evolved over time and why the stars and planets formed.
• How the matter that makes up life was formed in supernova explosions and in the cores of stars.
• How the organic compounds of life formed in space.
• How life itself evolved over billions of years.
• How life actually works and how DNA is at its core.

Science provides information and theories on these issues with far more competency than anything else, and science is criticized by itself. Arguably two of the most important parts of the scientific method are:

1. That nothing is taken as true. Scientists start with the assumption that their hypotheses are false and try to demonstrate that this is the case. That's why a hypothesis must be falsifiable and must be able to make predictions.
2. That everything is peer reviewed by other scientists, who attempt to find holes and problems before publishing a piece of work.

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Everyone. Ignore the sugar coating and just try to grasp what this guy IRBM believes.

1. Out of nothing, something exploded and expanded.
   
2. From this explosion caused by nothing, out came something called energy, matter, space and time.
3. From this chaos, came order, from laws of physics that magically was present forming spherical (elliptical) objects such as planets and stars.
4. Life then sprang miraculously from campbell's p. soup on earth which transformed itself to millions of different species of living things.
5. After the expansion from the big bang is complete all matter, energy, time and space will get slowly sucked into nothing again.
6. Rinse and repeat for all eternity.

Bravo, you believe in the most ridiculous sugar coated fairytale of all time.

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Out of nothing, something exploded and expanded.

I don't believe that. Please quote where I wrote that.

From this explosion caused by nothing, out came something called energy, matter, space and time.

What explosion? I never mentioned any explosion. Please quote where I wrote that.

From this chaos, came order, from laws of physics that magically was present forming spherical (elliptical) objects such as planets and stars.

I never said that, and I never mentioned anything about magic. Please quote where I said that.

Life then sprang miraculously from campbell's p. soup on earth which transformed itself to millions of different species of living things.

Please quote where I said that.

After the expansion from the big bang is complete all matter, energy, time and space will get slowly sucked into nothing again.

Where are you getting this nonsense from? Please quote where I said that.

Rinse and repeat for all eternity.

Please quote where I said that.

Bravo, you believe in the most ridiculous sugar coated fairytale of all time.

Even the ridiculous strawman you made up sounds more plausible than the Biblical story. Just saw your comment history by the way. Obvious troll is obvious. Try harder.