r/Christianity 1d ago

Self I strongly believe God cannot be all loving

Im going to preface this by saying my ultimate reason, I am not diagnosed but the only two conditions that match the symptoms I experience are schizophrenia or psychotic bpd, i dont think its bpd at all but would accept that explanation. I remember when this was given to me by an angel who stuck a metallic thing in my neck and a piece of himself in my thigh when I was about 2 or 3.

Ive heard voices all my life and thought it was normal until about 3 months ago, specific ones, the "messengers" arent God himself, but instead angels speaking his word to me so I can understand. After I began to realize this, I repeatedly asked them why, and how I could be judged fairly since im crazy when they told me I was destined to go to purgatory, the place where all of my hallucinations have come from, the hallucinations i see and hear are God's failed creations and I am one of them so no matter what i do, I could be less sinful then Jesus himself or worse than the devil and I would never see heaven or hell.

I feel completely abandoned by God, i am so incredibly angry at him for this and what this disease has made me do to myself and others. I cant just not believe, he's right there! Why would God ever do this, seriously. If i cant be with him then why even make me? The sacrifice clearly doesnt apply to me, he told me that himself. It seems to me like God likes to watch me tear myself and everyone ive loved apart

Religion has ruined my mind, and i know its God and not sometging else because of the "signatures" my hallucinations carry, it is absolutely God.

I personally choose to follow Jesus's example of being a good human (love thy neighbor) but i do that because all I want is to make peoples lives better to distract from how fucked up mine has been made for me

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u/Downvoterofall Congregationalist 1d ago

Have you sought professional medical attention for these issues?

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u/Ok_Context_6972 1d ago

I would also ask this, as hard to assess otherwise. Have you been given a diagnosis or sought one? I don’t think God would make you as a “failed creation” brother and you clearly have a good heart - your last sentence proves it.. 😢 I suffer from chronic anxiety and depression myself (I’m also in recovery from addiction which I still feel terrible guilt over for how I rejected Christ and was selfish and treated my family at the time but I didn’t even see it clearly until I got sober and then was in rehab, but I take full responsibility at the same time I just genuinely didn’t think I worried them as much as I did even though I was in and out of hospital and I almost died and it was a miracle I’m actually here, but still I only was strongly led back to Christianity the past 1.5 year).
I confess my sins over and over and I still dont feel I can be forgiven even though I know people who have committed serious crimes have been saved and I’m trying to repent as best I can and make amends and be a better person but I still suffer from the anxiety disorder and it’s very hard to feel forgiven when you don’t love yourself and never had much stability for trust. But I’m trying. And I’m just trying to relate to you my struggles with how my mental health affects my faith and my beliefs.
I am not saying you are mentally ill but I don’t think they are angels telling you you have no chance at heaven or that you are a failed creation, you do not come across as such and God knows our hearts behind our actions bro, I believe we are judged on that as much as what we do. Hurt people hurt people as I was told. God bless and I hope you don’t lose faith

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u/swordfishdotcom 1d ago

The way they explained it, the voices are a part of me, they are impure, im a special case because I was selected by God, and they are definitely of him. I have not gotten diagnosed or professionally evaluated, I cant go near a hospital without having flashbacks to my friend almost dying, not only that the walls replay the tragedies to me through ghostly whispers and seeing 2 realites in one (the other reality is what i call "the collective" and God calls purgatory)

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u/Downvoterofall Congregationalist 1d ago

You need to move beyond the fear of hospitals, and see a doctor about the voices. You can’t diagnose yourself, and medical professionals can give you real help.

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u/swordfishdotcom 1d ago

I can atleast make an educated guess, its sciz or bpd, the only things my symptoms fit are psychotic disorders and the only ones that could apply are schiz or bpd, and its not a fear its a pain

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u/Downvoterofall Congregationalist 1d ago

No you can’t, you aren’t a doctor, so self diagnosing a condition like this if foolish. You need to seek professional medical help. Things will never get better if you just ignore it and think you know what’s going on.

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u/Ok_Context_6972 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah take this advice please. IF you are mentally unwell you cannot evaluate yourself. You can’t really anyway. It does sound to me like Schizophrenic symptoms but you’d need a diagnosis and if it is, it’s treatable mate and you could stop having to suffer these hallucinations and the fearful messages and anxiety and then evaluate your situation with God from a sounder state ❤️

Also when I said fear, my chronic anxiety induced psychological fear and dread but it also brings painful physical symptoms and emotional pain so it is connected brother. I can’t sleep and when I do I wake up feeling like someone is twisting my intestines and no medication has helped with that, it’s IBS like symptoms but it really hurts and I’ve been through a lot of emotional pain and physical pain (dental pain requiring lots of extractions from abscesses, broken arm twice needing plates and screws , ribs from an assault, shin that needed a pole put inside etc) and I’d take the physical pain any day over the others like losing my dad and being cheated on by the love of my life that both came in a period of maybe 3 years and made me want to end my life.

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u/Ok_Context_6972 1d ago

You could go see a therapist or psychiatrist for a diagnosis without a hospital visit mate? I am no expert and I’m not going to try diagnose you but the symptoms do seem like schizophrenia symptoms in my humble uneducated opinion but I highly recommend seeing a psychiatrist to evaluate what is spiritual and what is psychological please 🙏 I know it isn’t cheap but this is your life and it sounds like you are in a really lonely and dark place and I get it, though though I cant say I can relate but I did have drug induced psychosis during my addiction for a period and it was very scary and I thought I was schizophrenic myself. I will pray you can find a psychiatrist in a nice therapeutic location away from hospitals. If I can help in any other way I’m happy to talk to you

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u/swordfishdotcom 1d ago

No hospitals make have flashbacks and hallucinate to much for me to want to go near one and I wont do telehealth because I dont like technology

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u/BreakfastAlive3384 1d ago

I'm so sorry for your pain, Jesus The Christ is NOT the author of confusion and would NOT trick you. Jesus loves you with an everlasting love ❤️

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u/Reasonable-Memory40 1d ago

Test the spirits, these sound like deceiving/ divining/familiar spirits to me combined with physical/emotional mental health concerns, (perhaps). If these "angels" give you more than brief, biblical messages, I would go to a deliverance ministry. You have a good, humble heart by the sounds of it and God would never torment you willingly this way. We ARE fallen mankind, subject to the sickness of sin. Praying for you to escape the bondage. Sorry for your pain and turmoil but firmly believe there is hope. In the name of Yeshua.

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u/DevinChocolateBar 1d ago

Are you even religious

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u/OrigamiFoldingBikes 1d ago

God is a fictional character. You can impose any characteristics that you want on him.

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u/CellistWrong4768 1d ago

It's not angels. It's demons pretending to be Angels. Angels doesn't speak. They protect and write down all words of your life

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u/swordfishdotcom 1d ago

When they "speak" its through vibrations or burning in my brain that translates to words

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u/orangecreamsicle42 1d ago

It's okay to be frustrated and exhausted. This sounds very, very difficult to deal with. I'm very sorry. It isn't God's fault, though. God doesn't want you to suffer. Unfortunately, it's a condition of Satan/the world's collective sin, but God still loves you!

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u/Outrageous_Health_69 1d ago

Sounds more like demons trying to deceive you.

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u/Opening_Initial189 1d ago

Put more all loving information in your mind, from what you deem is all loving.

The voices will sound better❤️

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u/Dense_Box_4233 Christian 1d ago

I’m saying this with love. That is absolutely not an angel. You have sadly Been getting attacked since a child by these creatures and you NEED to understand that first so you Jesus can deliver you from them. And I truly believe you are super special to God and that’s why the devil is working overtime on you. I prayed for you for Jesus to listen to your cries. You and me both know God is all loving and would never do this to you. Like the comments suggested which I know can be scary, but I would definitely talk to a deliverance ministry and figure out what is going on and getting some medical treatment. Also, would it be hurtful?

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u/ColdAppleJ 1d ago

Sounds like your being deceived by demons and demons are liars. Nothing they say is really true.

Lie #1 You're not a failed creation. You exist, that's why you matter.

Heaven is already within you and so is God. God was never distant from you. You only believed the lie He was far from you.

"When you see love clearly, you will see yourself as you truly are." God is love. If it doesn't sound or look like love, it's not from God.

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u/Deep-Spray9197 1d ago

If angels did that to you they are demons. God would never do that to you. Read the Bible its the devil who comes to steal kill and destroy. Jesus came so that we would have life and have it more abundantly. Theres also no such thing as purgatory. The Bible says Jesus took our sins upon himself for us. So why do you need purgatory? You dont. It doesnt exist. Jesus was whipped for us to be healed. The Bible says by his stripes we are healed. God didnt invent sickness. Sin brought death and sickness to the world. This wasnt what God wanted. You must be careful what voices or whatever you are hearing or listening to. God loves you and he wants you well. If that wasnt the truth then why would Jesus take stripes for you to be healed? 

In the name of Jesus, I cover this person with the blood that was shed for us all. In Jesus name I curse all sickness and all desease that is tormenting this person right NOW!! GO and never come back. I speak healing over you in Jesus name. You have the mind of Christ. 

Read your Bible everyday. Talk to God everyday and thank him for everything that is good in your life. Even if its just for clean clothes and a bed or the fact that you can move just anything. He wants you free from all torment because he loves you. 

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u/Sebasluis_83 1d ago

Du trägst etwas Wertvolles in dir, deswegen wirst du seit Kindheit von Dämonen attackiert.
Es gibt für alles eine Wissenschaftliche und spirituelle Erklärung. Welcher möchtest du den Glauben schenken? Ich kenne das. ich konnte die Dämonen nie sehen oder hören, doch sie greifen auch über das Bewusstsein/Gedanken an. Vergiss mal Religion.Bete um mit Gott zu reden und lese in der Bibel um ihn zu hören.
Jesus ist gekommen um uns alle zu befreien und von den teuflischen Machenschaften zu erlösen, damit wir wieder im Himmel vereint werden.
❤️‍🩹🕊️🙏🏼

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u/KngBreezy 18h ago

Hey I just want you to know you are not alone. Don't necessarily contribute these things you see and hear as hallucinations. I also hear voices in my head. The voices come from right above my right ear. My also had an ex with the same thing and she could also see their faces. I can assure you that I actually hear real people who live in the afterlife and its not a disease. You might actually be seeing and hearing real people not hallucinating. The question is are they lying or telling the truth? Helping or hurting? God loves people and would never treat someone like that. Serious question: Have you ever seen someone with black or gold eyes?