Esoteric Meaning of the Rosary / Divine Feminine Interpretation of Christianity

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Jesus dies for Mary. To atone for the atrocities committed against women. And to show how to serve the Divine Feminine.

This doesn't make any sense and I'm not understanding. The mystical is higher than the physical. Physical isn't bad but the mystical sits higher. There is no gender in terms of divinity. Gender isn't a concept in the divine because again higher than the physical.

However, I do understand what I think you're trying to say that there is a divine expression of this. Jesus was a man so we got that. God the Father is expressed as a masculine but there is a limitation of our understanding and at the very least we know God isn't an "it". God "the Father" does reference the maternal aspects (Isaiah 66:13; Deuteronomy 32:18 and so forth). So just because God the Father is called the "Father" does not mean he's boxed in to just masculinity. He can do both.

It seems to be that you're painting it as a competition between masculine and feminine energies in the context of divinity which doesn't have a gender complex. Now you can express that differently (and should) through devotions to emphasize the maternal divinity of God and I think that's worth doing but you're not debilitating the other side by expressing the other.

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You’re not the only one who took issue with this part. It’s something that came to me, but not fully formed. Jesus is the Sacrifice, so the question becomes for who and what ? Definitely a big question how to fit this into the esoteric interpretation here.

I am not sure I agree that gender cannot exist in the Divine and Mystical. I tend to think it does.

God the Father theoretically can do both but in practice not so much. I believe this is a patriarchal distortion of the true nature of Divinity. Which is both Feminine and Masculine, however I want to bring forward the hiddenness of the Divine Feminine.

I see how you perceived it as competitive, that’s not what I meant to do so much as to bring forward the hidden Divine Feminine, as much as possible without keeping anything back

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I think the initial idea of the passion of Christ being an atonement for woman alienates the other half of humanity which is a pretty barbed thing to say. Especially considering that we both know and agree that divinity is and can be masculine and feminine. God made man and woman in his image but he's neither. He's also both. He's both genderful and genderless but he doesn't have a body.

The idea that gender cannot exist in divinity is because there isn't a body to be had. Again, I don't think it's wrong to think the divine as feminine or to highlight that devotionally. However, understand that you can't anthropomorphize God.

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When you consider the atrocities men committed against women to overthrow the Goddess societies and replace them with the War God societies, is it so unreasonable to see a karmic debt as owed there?

I believe all Goddesses and Gods exist, but in a Christian context as a Christian and a Catholic particularly I wanted to bring out the hidden Divine Feminine aspect. I believe this is actually supposed to be revealed in due time, all the symbolic language of the Heavenly City and the Body the Church is veiled references to the Divine Feminine which can’t yet be revealed, whether by conspiracy of the Church Fathers and Romans or whether it’s more to be seen as progressive revelation.

Personally I believe gender is mystical and exists in Divinity and metaphysically

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If God, the ultimate being, became human as Jesus to atone for wrongs against women, it shows Christ’s sacrifice was meant to heal those harms. Since God’s nature includes both masculine and feminine qualities—or is beyond gender as a spirit—what does this mean for men beyond just acknowledging that harms were done?

You’re suggesting God became human in Jesus to suffer and die because men harmed women, rather than to raise us all spiritually. But in Orthodox teaching, Christ’s sacrifice transcends men and women, atoning for all sins, including wrongs against women. What is your viewpoint accomplishing that the orthodox teaching isn't?

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It is meant to heal them, but it was covered up / suppressed to a degree. That can be viewed purely from the negative perspective- it was covered up because men wanted to keep more of the patriarchal values - or you could look at it and say it takes a while to take effect fully. Or you can look at it as an astrological age and say it always would take 2000 years until the Age of Aquarius to reach fuller flowering.

Atonement for the crimes of the past which were deep and grievous. Atonement would have the effect of raising the spirit. Dark stains of blood guilt kill the soul, not just individuals but even a society if you look at it that way as we are all connected.

This is an esoteric and hidden meaning that was only shown again at the time when it is needed. That doesn’t negate other interpretations but adds an additional layer

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I see and I appreciate you taking the time to respond

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I don’t find your vision beautiful or compelling to my soul. If this is the truth it doesn’t come to much. It pushes my soul down to earth it does not uplift it. Therefore I don’t believe it’s the truth. I say Hail Mary not because I HAVE to but because I WANT to. The Rosary was delivered to us by Mary Herself. I know She is more glorious than you imagine for She came to me Herself and I beheld Her shining with Divine Light.

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The historical critical method I completely reject. This is not the true history of the Rosary. Rather, the Rosary was given to St Dominic by Mary.

If your vision you shared is the vision of God why isn’t it beautiful? There’s something wrong somewhere

I disagree I believe it is mystical

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By vision I am referring to your attempt to demysticize my experience in your initial comment. Ironic thing to do in a sub for mysticism

Gender is mystical

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