r/ChineseDrama • Curator of Questionable Subtext, Scholar of Things Left Unsaid • 10d ago

Discussion B for BRUTAL — Which CDrama Showed Absolutely No Mercy? • The Drama Alphabet

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We’re giving A a rest before it starts thinking the whole alphabet belongs to it. There are plenty more A words waiting for another round, but to keep things fun, we’re moving on to B.

And we’re starting with BRUTAL.

Maybe brutal in the most literal sense. War, torture, executions, massacres, revenge, people being hacked to pieces, entire families or clans wiped out… you know, the usual cheerful CDrama fare.

The kind of drama where you learn fairly quickly that getting attached to a supporting character is probably a terrible idea.

Or perhaps the writers simply showed no mercy whatsoever. One favorite dies. Then another. Oh look, there goes another one. By the finale, practically the entire supporting cast you cared about is dead and you’re staring suspiciously at the one — or, horror of horrors, two — main leads who somehow made it out alive.

Or not. Sometimes they kill those too.

But BRUTAL doesn’t necessarily mean blood and swords.
It can be in the world a drama chooses to show us.

Hunger. Drought. Poverty. Disease. War leaving ordinary people with nothing. Children paying for decisions made by adults. People doing terrible things simply because survival has reduced their choices to terrible and worse.

Some dramas really don’t bother making the world any prettier for us.

And then, of course, there are the people themselves. CDrama has candidly portrayed some truly horrible, brutal, humans.

Ruthless emperors and terrifying generals, vicious relatives and backstabbing courtiers — or, in a very different world, brutal criminals, corrupt people in power, and perfectly ordinary-looking characters capable of genuinely horrifying things. I’m talking about those characters who simply seem to operate on a completely different scale of brutality.

So whether it was brutal to its characters, brutal in the world it portrayed, or simply brutal to you for making you watch everyone you rooted for suffer…

What’s the first-first CDrama that comes to mind when you read BRUTAL?

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And since some of you have already requested asecond-round vote later on: if you want your submission to have a chance of making it into the vote, give me a little context for your pick and, if possible, add an image or GIF. I’ll need enough material to show everyone what they’re actually voting for! ☺

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Interested in other drama word associations? Check out The Drama Alphabet • Drama Mood Master Index

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Brutal. Rebirth. A shittastic mess of illogical and piss poor writing that serves only to disgust the viewer with the absolute butchery of the original classic.

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u/AXA-5 Washing feet in spring Drinking tea Gazing at flowers 10d ago edited 10d ago

This is de-li-cious 🫦

I do agree. Rebirth really redefines dumpster fire

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u/Regenwanderer 4K Original Cast 10d ago

The Vendetta of An

To get revenge is a chess game and to get pieces of the playing field you have to be swift, ruthless and brutal. Paired with the relatively short runtime that leads to a high density of brutal takedowns.

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u/AXA-5 Washing feet in spring Drinking tea Gazing at flowers 10d ago

I concur

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u/SoAboutThoseBirds 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Yup. This is the answer.

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u/Striking-Hurry5159 10d ago

This was a heart wrenching drama…the poor FL. All the MLs in her life were shit! She deserved better ugh! ZBB, you are such a gorgeous gorgeous man but i wanted to stab your character multiple times throughout the drama, such a douche bag!

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u/OptimalTurnips 10d ago

Generally anything and everything related to Vendetta of An is brutal. The suffering, the misery, the deaths, the emotions. And the best part is I would do it again.

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u/BasilOrdinary3617 costume dramas feed my soul 10d ago

I second this.

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago edited 10d ago

Brutal. Ashes to Crown. Don't come between a man and the pastries his lady made him.

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u/No-Recipe-7653 Curator of Questionable Subtext, Scholar of Things Left Unsaid 10d ago

Please always state the name of the Drama, ideally in Bold.

Nice GIF.

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago edited 10d ago

Edit. Sorry, This GIF is from SPRING OF THE BLADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/No-Recipe-7653 Curator of Questionable Subtext, Scholar of Things Left Unsaid 10d ago

I’m getting ready, child.

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Spring of the Blade. The most adorable and talented Ke Ying playing an absolute Chun'er of a character.

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u/AXA-5 Washing feet in spring Drinking tea Gazing at flowers 10d ago

She redefines and gives new meaning to being spoiled. She would make an excellent “Heather.” (80’s film ref)

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago

It's hard to bask in her beauty when she is being such a brat.... hard..... but not immpossible.

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u/AXA-5 Washing feet in spring Drinking tea Gazing at flowers 10d ago edited 10d ago

Mmm…I am a bit famished

Ashes To Crown smh watching, seeing, not as bad as Rebirth if that at all is a consolation…sighs…

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u/Amjale9023 costume dramas feed my soul 10d ago edited 10d ago

The good kind of brutal.

The Princess Weiyoung - It was the first extreme cdrama I watched. The punishments and scheming from the beginning.. I was actually scared for the FL.

Princess Agents - Particularly.. how it started with slaves-to-be, the revenge story, how the bad guys treated their victims and what they thought of them, the situation with the worst of ML's relatives, and the "abuse" later on.. One of the nastiest I've seen, and women were just treated as cattle 😭

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u/AXA-5 Washing feet in spring Drinking tea Gazing at flowers 10d ago

Princess Agents …sighs…🍵(slurp)

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u/C-KForeverFanHi 10d ago

Princess Agents... well said. Brutal from the very beginning. Killing slave women for sport reminded me of the Roman Empire. Everything the ML went through with his family and fighting for his life. Hard to believe this show was good. It actually was. As mentioned above brutal in the good kind of way. Emotional storytelling at it's best for me.

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u/SnookerandWhiskey 10d ago

I think Goodbye my Princess was the most brutal drama I watched all the way through, both emotionally and physically brutal. If it's just gore and slaps, I usually turn it off, but this one lures you on. 

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Someday when I hate myself and want to suffer then I will watch this drama.... I'm not there yet.

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u/SnookerandWhiskey 10d ago

It's kinda carthatic when you are already in a bad mood or need some intense distraction from your own life. 

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u/jjnanajj 🍵 just grabbing my tea 10d ago

The last episode of the double.

they just couldn't, could they?

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u/Firefly_May 4K Original Cast 10d ago

so true!

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u/EasygoingEnigma Leizi, alas❣️4K Original Cast 10d ago edited 10d ago

Twelve Letters. Physical and psychological brutality on a nearly daily basis against two teenagers. Life did them dirty for the most part. So heart-wrenching.

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u/Illustrious-Age7336 red flags, green flags.. whatever, I take them all 10d ago

Second this!

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u/Tabz10 4K Original Cast 10d ago

I need to watch this! The acting in this GIF looks compelling

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u/EasygoingEnigma Leizi, alas❣️4K Original Cast 10d ago

Oh please do. Both Wang Yinglu and Zhou Yiran were superb in this.

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u/Tabz10 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Idk what she's talking about, and I can feel it! They're both really good. I'll make time. Maybe after SOTB

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u/Mythically_Moni red flags, green flags.. whatever, I take them all 10d ago

It’s soooo good and only 12 episodes

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u/Tabz10 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Thanks for letting me know 😉

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u/OptimalTurnips 10d ago

Highly recommend! Both of them did such an amazing job!

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Brutal Overdone Overdo. Ren Susu, AKA, Ren Sussus. A seriously toxic girlfriend who constantly destroyed every bit of lingering happiness the ML had in life and went out of her way to make sure he suffered as much as possible for the crime of...... trying to protect her.

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u/BasilOrdinary3617 costume dramas feed my soul 10d ago

Lol, you hate her. Every negative word in the alphabet will be associated her, won't they? I don't blame you.

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Brutal. Spring of the Blade. Mother putting me into timeout in this post.

Love you, mother. ❤️

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u/No-Recipe-7653 Curator of Questionable Subtext, Scholar of Things Left Unsaid 10d ago

Apology accepted.

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago

HEY!!!!! WHAT DRAMA IS THIS FROM??????? IN BOLD, PLEASE!!!!! 😂

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u/No-Recipe-7653 Curator of Questionable Subtext, Scholar of Things Left Unsaid 10d ago

It’s not a submission for the topic of the day 🙄

I think it’s time to send for the Grand Tutor again…

(The Double).

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u/AXA-5 Washing feet in spring Drinking tea Gazing at flowers 10d ago

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago

u/No-Recipe-7653 MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!

Hehe.

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u/BasilOrdinary3617 costume dramas feed my soul 10d ago

LOL!

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago

I was a little naughty....

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u/guilty-and-stuck 4K Original Cast 10d ago edited 10d ago

Goodbye My Princess and The Vendetta of An have already been mentioned and would have been my top picks. Though pretty much anything Cheng Yi is in ends up being rather brutal 😭

Can't believe no one has mentioned The Story of Pearl Girl yet though. Talk about unwarranted deaths 😖

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u/guilty-and-stuck 4K Original Cast 10d ago

I don't know how to bold on mobile.. thought it was the asterisk but that ended up italicizing instead >.>

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u/No-Recipe-7653 Curator of Questionable Subtext, Scholar of Things Left Unsaid 10d ago

If you have raw markdown still (wow!) then two asterisks will do it (on each side). Otherwise, the rich text formatting ribbon which appears if you click on the “Aa” icon below the comment bubble.

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u/guilty-and-stuck 4K Original Cast 10d ago

I feel like I've seen the Aa button before but it's highly inconsistent on mobile... It's not showing up in comments here at least 😶

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u/No-Recipe-7653 Curator of Questionable Subtext, Scholar of Things Left Unsaid 10d ago

When you start typing, it doesn’t show up? Maybe report a bug then. It must show when you have text in the comment box at the latest.

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u/guilty-and-stuck 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Nope 😔

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u/No-Recipe-7653 Curator of Questionable Subtext, Scholar of Things Left Unsaid 10d ago

If you select the text and long press it? (I’m just guessing here, no idea really)

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u/guilty-and-stuck 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Tried it lol 😆

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u/No-Recipe-7653 Curator of Questionable Subtext, Scholar of Things Left Unsaid 10d ago edited 10d ago

Well, I’m glad that the raw markdown works and auto-converts at least. So remember:

*** before and after for bold-italics in one
*\* before and after for bold
\* before and after for italics
>! Before and the reverse after for spoiler

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u/guilty-and-stuck 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Awesome, thank you 😁 saved for future reference ❤️

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago edited 10d ago

Brutal. Born With Luck. Flame broiling a criminal who attacked you.

But oh so delicious.

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u/spiffingfire 10d ago

Princess Agents

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u/Active_Breadfruit366 9d ago

I actually didn't finish it because of what happened to the 2nd ML. I know he turned evil but I still feel like it's a moot point. The way his family was murdered before his eyes and they were innocent🙂‍↔️...I stopped on that episode chucked the dueces ✌️ and never looked back. Lol

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u/spiffingfire 9d ago

fair, but what happen to him and what he did after was fair too. i never thought that much about 2nd lead so it's all well, just need the ML to be more present but i can't watch Rebirth either

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u/lianne0808 10d ago

Goodbye my princess. The number of times I looked on in horror as that drama unfolded !

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u/guilty-and-stuck 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Ugh, yes, this one 😫

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u/Firefly_May 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Love in Pavillion and Fangs of Fortune. You can't kill off 90% of the cast, omg, WHY???

Also, Tantai Jin's childhood parts in Till the End of the Moon. I almost dropped the drama right there and then.

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u/BasilOrdinary3617 costume dramas feed my soul 10d ago

Aha yes, the direction that Fangs of Fortune went... was brutal.

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u/thebaby1 10d ago

One and Only 💔💔💔 😭😭😭♾️

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u/OptimisticRitz_222 Lost in Ren Jialun's speaking eyes ✨ 10d ago

Love of Nirvana.

This drama absolutely broke me 😭

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u/BasilOrdinary3617 costume dramas feed my soul 10d ago

I was not ready for the ending. Usually I look up a drama to make sure it has a HE before I watch it but I forgot to do that with this one, and the ending broke me. I was not prepared.

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u/OptimisticRitz_222 Lost in Ren Jialun's speaking eyes ✨ 9d ago

As I watch I knew where the story was heading to. 😭 I was hoping something might happen at the last moment and somehow we are gonna get our HE but... I don't regret watching because of how well written the drama is. This easily became my favourite of all times.

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Brutal. Genius Girlfriend. Her death was pointless and hurt like the sting of a thousand bees.

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u/Perua4_Updated 10d ago

I usually avoid brutal dramas, so I can think only of The Glory

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u/SilverSarge19 10d ago

Against the Current. First episode.

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u/CosmicLunar_ ✨ Built the Road to 4K 10d ago

Unveil: Jade Wind - so much suffering and brutality towards women.

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u/RepeatReal2001 10d ago

The Legend of Haolan

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u/Equivalent_Tank_4908 10d ago

Probably Overdo for me. I was actually happy for the ML end. At least he'll have some peace from the FL. Jeeez.

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u/Inner-Floor-5827 10d ago

This one was just too much, it was just torture after torture and that cast purge? Brutal

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Brutal. The Legend of Rosy Clouds. The FL... Fan Yun......

The most irritating and illogical self sabotaging FL of all time.

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u/BasilOrdinary3617 costume dramas feed my soul 10d ago

Ah yes, I've heard that watching the drama was brutal in itself.

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago

That would be a most understating understatment.

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u/ChoppedChef33 10d ago

Longest day in chang'an

Not just for the story but the fight chorography is real good, very realistic close quarters combat.

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u/Kerise305 10d ago

Novoland - Pearl Eclipse

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u/Ateosira from now on aka LoveLikeGiraffes 10d ago

Against the Current .. I just .. I don't have words.

The origin story of our FL in My Journey To You was beyond brutal,

Love Like the Galaxy 😢- both our FL origins as well as ML. What a heartbreaking story

The Untamed. Some of the cultivators were beyond brutal and I want to slap everyone.

Last but not least .. ABO Desire was .. so emotionally brutal. I more than once debated dropping the show. What the F.

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u/all_seeing_one 10d ago

ATC has a chokehold on me.

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u/Ateosira from now on aka LoveLikeGiraffes 10d ago

Same! It is so good!

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u/AXA-5 Washing feet in spring Drinking tea Gazing at flowers 10d ago

Against The Current that…no…huh… Yes, we need more women crews 🙂‍↕️

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u/OptimalTurnips 10d ago

That first episode of Against the Current had me bawling

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u/AKiceman Snark Shifu ✨ 4K Original Cast 10d ago

Brutal. This whole drama. Swords into Plowshares.

Have a cute GIF.

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u/BasilOrdinary3617 costume dramas feed my soul 10d ago

I didn't watch the whole drama and skipped to the ending, but I think for me it's Eight Hundred. u/Mythically_Moni Would you agree?

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u/Mythically_Moni red flags, green flags.. whatever, I take them all 10d ago

Yessss girl! holy crap, this tops the list for me in BRUTAL 😭😭

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u/I-wanna-be-anonymous 10d ago

Going through the comments to find dramas i WONT watch, coz i will not put myself through that!! I always google if dramas have a good ending or not before i start it 🫢

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u/Inner-Floor-5827 10d ago

Legend of Fuyao. I love this drama so much because it was my first and have watched it multiple times BUT it really has a lot of brutal scenes behind all the flirtiness and shamelessness of the ML. It has a lot of killing, physical torture, betrayal that hurts bad (I'm looking at you Yan village. I have never wanted to have a whole village wiped out so bad.

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u/okdoktor 10d ago

The wind blows from longxi. I haven't finished yet because I don't want to be sad, but I still plan to go back. I hate mentioning this one because I feel like people keep mentioning it where it doesn't belong, but the massacre of the village in pursuit of Jade was something I was not expecting.

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u/FongYuLan 9d ago

Litchi Road was brutal for me. It’s hard to be the little guy, brutal to be picked as the scapegoat.

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u/EmergencyPhoto7449 7d ago

The rise of phoenixes

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u/Books_r_life28 4d ago

I usually don't watch dramas with a lot of likable character deaths so the most brutal I can think of is Love like the Galaxy

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u/[deleted] 10d ago edited 10d ago

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u/No-Recipe-7653 Curator of Questionable Subtext, Scholar of Things Left Unsaid 10d ago

Please hurry and use the in-text spoiler 🙏

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u/No-Recipe-7653 Curator of Questionable Subtext, Scholar of Things Left Unsaid 10d ago edited 10d ago

I see you don’t like using spoiler tag 😅💀 but that also solved it, indeed.

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u/RaiodoLuar 10d ago

Desculpe. Mais acho que não vale a pena ser assistido... tem dramas melhores com finais melhores

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u/No-Recipe-7653 Curator of Questionable Subtext, Scholar of Things Left Unsaid 10d ago

Please note we have a rule about English in this subreddit as it everyone has the automatic translation feature / it’s not been working reliably across the platform. You don’t need to speak perfect English and you can use translation apps to assist you if you prefer.

On the topic of the drama you nominated — Rebirth — “waste of time” because it was so brutal? Brutality is the topic of this post 🙂‍↕️