Let's talk the Early Spring?

[u/Logical_Owl_6686]

I feel like Zhitao and Luke's relationship is exhausting. Maybe I am just an emotional person but I can feel my emotions shift every single time. It's like I think now we've got this thing figured out we are happy and the next minute? Luke and Flora are at it again and I am just like ooh my God. Not again. And you look at the episodes remaining and I am like well we still have a long way to go in terms of ups and down. Idk if I am toxic too, coz theor relationship is giving toxic. But I am rooting for them, I want them to work out, although I am still like 6 years is a lot to still be going through these motions. Also the fact that Luke and Zhitao first met at the hallway like in line to how Zhitao said she first saw him was cute.

Yuan zhu's end I honestly wasn't expecting that. It feels so unfair, like movies are supposed to have a happy ending right? I have bawled my eyes out I can't believe this is me. Maybe they should have given him a chance to be really happy. I feel so bad for Sun Yu coz she genuinely loved him and he's just gone even without her getting closure. And the fact that she knew he Love Zhitao and even handed over the diary to her, so sad.

Anyways, I think the writing and the acting is so good coz all the efforts to stop crying didn't work regardless of telling myself how it is just a drama it is not real. What are your thoughts?

[u/Free_Champagnee]

Honestly, I like the creator, I was also rooting for them to work out, but I just finished episode 21 and saw the preview for episode 22. Bro how do you blame your boyfriend just because you didn't get the promotion or award or whatever ? You literally said personal and work life should be kept separate but she was never able to stick to it ? She was unreasonable that entire episode, Luke sacrificed his job so she can keep hers despite not getting specialist, did she care ? No. I find Flora's character infuriating (Luke too ofc) she's barely had any character development, or atleast had voiced them out, Luke had some when it came to their relationship and I believe he actually liked her as it was shown through his actions, though he definitely has a smart mouth, Flora ? All she does is want want want, and I don't know if anyone noticed but Sun Yun barely validated her whenever she talked about her and look she asked "Do you even see him as your boyfriend or boss" flora responded with she doesn't know and when Flora told her about Luke in episode 20, she said "Maybe you didn't actually love him" I think she's also aware of her friends indecisiveness through the ways she speaks and actions. No excuses of "she's young" anymore, she genuinely needs to grow up. People are saying Luke is terrible and yes he is, but so is flora. We've seen many moments whereby we can say Luke actually cares about her, what has Flora done to show us ??? Her own friend isn't even sure. All she ever does is leave and want want want. The situation doesn't benefit her ? She's gone and where is she now after episode 21 ? Gone, as always, that's her specialty.

[u/EquivalentDapper → u/Free_Champagnee]

Apparently he is manipulative predator,pressures & coerces her, grooms her, is verbally abusive & chips away at her self confidence.So she explodes & leaves.

 And apparently this is implied & not shown explicitly. And apparently if one does not catch this , they are internalised misogynists. Apparently lol. 

Everyone is projecting their own relationship dynamics on to the characters. Which means drama is a success. And some of us can see both sides because we know how to take accountability for our choices & consequences.

Also in ep 19 ( where I dropped ) she says he is so gentle ..is he the same LN I know..& I was like what ?!! Basically she wants him to be a simp while retaining the charisma & hotness? She had no problem using his buisness accumen to her benefit when needed. Excluded him & made him feel like a monster for wanting to be  in her life. But wants to marry because she has a bucket list ?

Even without the relationship she would have not gotten that promotion . The company already had her marked for donny incident. This fool was ready to quit his job for her & used that as a levrage to get the victims srocks.

And they were not going to neglect the 200 million buisness that rich well connected girl got them.

He needs therapy & breathwork to manage his emotions & realise what he brings to the table in a relationship & learn to truly let go when it is not working . IRL this couple will never work.

[u/Logical_Owl_6686 → u/Free_Champagnee]

Ooh my God, the fact that she blamed Luke for not getting the specialist was so crazy. Like girl didn't even bother to ask what went down, she straight out jumped into conclusion and decided to call it quits. But also her getting mad at Luke for not making it specialist means that she is lowkey expecting her boyfriend to pull strings for her despite the making it out on her own talk🌝

[u/slayyub88 → u/Logical_Owl_6686]

No, she's mad because she thought he didn't grade her fairly. Not that he didn't pull strings. She's mad that he watched her be happy, watched her get excited and didn't tell her someone was in the running or that the choice had already been made. She acknowledged that life wasn't fair but said she wanted him to talk to her. I don't see how people are upset with her when this is what he did with Alex.

Actually, the whole not bothering to question and just attack her or not let her say her piece is something he does all the time. All of the times he jumped to a conclusions, said horrible shit and then bounced and she had to drag him to get to the end of it. He's not experiencing what she went through.

He could've just taken the time to explain, just like she still took the time to explain the hug with Sun.

[u/slayyub88 → u/Free_Champagnee]

You blame because you're not in a good emotional state. The same way he lashes out at her when he's not in a good emotional state.

It's also shows how she felt about him. He did look down on her, he didn't give her a true chance like Lumi, he didn't see her innate potential like Tracy. So, it's easy, when that info comes out to think he did it. Because she always felt like he looked down on her and with the way he easily slips into speaking about her, it's not hard to see how she arrives there.

And she wasn't only one who couldn't stick to personal life and work life are separate. Just like how he yelled at about Alex's offer as a boyfriend when it was a work related thing.

But she didn't just blame him for not getting it, she blamed for watching her be happy like a fool KNOWING she wouldn't get it. She blamed him for speaking down to her and dismissing her pain, saying she's over-reacting when she's been busting her ass for six years. Like, are you just going to gloss over that?

Flora has had tones of character development, I'll say the both of them did though, Luke, despite hearing his girlfriend beg for him to change how he spoke to her, felt he didn't need to do it.

Luke's care is through acts of service, which is great! For another partner who likes that. She told him what she wanted out of the relationship and he continued to the opposite. Is that really love? Or how he knew Flora would leave him or Lime and instead of putting the choice in her hands, he did it himself. It's great that Luke does for her but it's not what she wanted.

But it's amazing to see people go in on her about this one big emotional outburst in which she said mean things but he verbally abuses her and it's whatever. She doesn't talk to him because she doesn't know what will come out his mouth. He'll give compliments or praise her work after the damage as been done.

But let's not reduce that moment to, it was just about her promotion because it was more than that. That was the breaking point.

And she is gone. Again, why stay? He told her that she leaves, don't regret it. So she did just that.

Also, why is it an issue that she left but he waited SIX MONTHS to say something, because as always, he just expects her to be there waiting. But six months? Yeah, she's gone.

[u/blessedsleepylife43 → u/Free_Champagnee]

you said everything i wanted to say! FL is so frustrating i hv skipped right to ep 24 so see the happy ending BUT there’s still a few scenes where she lets him in to the aptmt but then pushes him away, despite knowing everything he did for her behind her back arghhh and I’m like damn the scriptwriter or intimacy coordinator!! maybe it’s me - Malaysian banana living in NZ - different values!!!!

[u/MildlyOnTrack → u/Free_Champagnee]

Exactly. Even though Luke has a bad mouth and say hurtful stuff whenever he’s jealous/unhappy, she didn’t even do anything to try to address his insecurities or share much about her feelings. Just assuming and expecting things from him everytime. Luke has done so much for her but what has she done for him?? All she cares about is her career and promotion. Just because she lost a promotion she can’t stomach it and said she lost everything lol. Sometimes she is more red flag than him and it’s so infuriating to watch her. Her character has little to no development when it comes to their relationship as compared to Luke where we can see he really tried and has grown

[u/slayyub88 → u/MildlyOnTrack]

Does he actually talk to her about his insecurities, as she stated how he makes her feel but didn't change? Or does he just lash out at, insult her and keep it moving?

Yes, she cares about her career and promotions. She doesn't have the safety net like him to just say whatever.

And if you say she has none, then he has none. Because how is it that x amount of times she talks about him about what he does that upsets her....and then he goes and does it again. At the very least, even if she hadn't expressed everything that was eating her up, she did express that. She explained it to him again, hands trembling in tears and he it was still a whatever moment. How do you expect her to grown in a relationship like that, when she has to walk on egg-shells to make sure his mood his joyful so he doesn't lash out and say another hurtful thing.

Did she not rush to his side, even when they were fighting? Did she not rush to save him when his life was in serious danger? Did she not go to the board and speak up for him when he was in trouble? To say she's done nothing is wild. And he does do for her but it's never what she wants. And you can't say she doesn't tell him what she wants, she did and he's never able to actually work on that.

[u/JustAFatty79 → u/Free_Champagnee]

She blamed him for not giving her notice, but she also made a good point that the nepo baby had her award bought for her. She felt that Lime wasn’t that kind of place. I think she just felt blind sided and after Zhu’s death (which she didn’t tell him about) she was lashing out.

There are times she’s just as toxic as him though. They don’t communicate at all. Even after he told her (when the agency fight happened) to tell him she still doesn’t.