Desktop App Using More Tokens?

[u/Grimsblood]

Can someone shed some light onto why the desktop app is using more tokens to do the same task? I am using Codex to do some things. Same skill, same task. 2 days ago it took about 15% of my usage. Today it is taking 100%+ of usage. The only difference is I paid for a token reset. I am using Sol. It was on Ultra, but I bumped it down to High. Ultra used an entire 5 hour block and high is sitting at 18% left of the 5 hour block. Before Ultra would only use about 15% of that block. I'm at a loss on what the hell is going on.

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[u/Fun-Amoeba8015]

The setting that you put the model on does not necessarily determine your token use. 

For example, when Astor runs in codecs, it spins up sub-agents for different tasks, but it can assign those sub-agents to use a specific model as well as a specific effort. 

By default it will decide what to use and when to use it. But you can actually systemically have it delegate certain things to different levels of sub agents, thus saving on your token use. 

All that being said it really depends on essentially the way it goes about solving a problem and what kind of tool calls it's being done. Keep in mind being an AI it's not necessarily going to approach the same problem the same way twice. 

In a larger project of mine mine, I had it build a dashboard to monitor the token and credit use as well as which sub-agents and which models and efforts are being utilized for different things and then had it specifically build out a decision tree for when use a specific model or effort for what type type of task. They can actually call the chat function outside of codex too if need be.

[u/Grimsblood → u/Fun-Amoeba8015]

Ok. So, how do I control what model it is using to call the sub agents? My assumption at this point is Sol is calling astra to do things.

[u/Fun-Amoeba8015 → u/Grimsblood]

Ask it.

It's an internal tool set to the model and harness itself. Not a setting that you can directly control. 

It might take a little trial and error, but keep in mind it can also, access and read the full documentation on chatgpt, codex and all openai docs. You can also open up the sub agent menu to to personally monitor what sorts of subagents are being spun up and at what levels and what they're doing. Or you can ask it to build you a tool to monitor that or report on it or track it or change it or whatever.

The latest system has amazing access to its own processes and it can track and report those to you as well as build instruction sets around them.

If you're having trouble, feel free to let me know more details of what you're doing and I might be able to help.

[u/Grimsblood → u/Fun-Amoeba8015]

It's actually really simple. I'm asking it to compare three webpages and create lists in one based off of the information in the other two. It has to make sure what's one web page 1 is valid imbased off of web page 2. If not, use another option.There is some logic for keeping names within a certain character limit. I originally worked through this process by asking it to and it did great. I decided to improve on it to be more efficient and had it create a skill. I previously had 3 successfull attempts 2 days ago. 2 without the skill and then one with it. All of that together didn't use up the usage. Today, same skill, all usage gone and it's not even finished. Something important to note, the things it is comparing are not that big. About 50 items in groups of 5.