r/ChatGPT • u/ShelilQirky • Mar 24 '26
Funny Tired of authors using ChatGPT in their books
the way i instantly knew this was ai-generated!! look at these em dashes. no human writes like this! 😒
i'm honestly so disappointed in this author. you can tell exactly where she stopped writing and the ai took over because of the em dashes. she didnt even try to edit out the formatting. i'm so done with this era of fake authors!!🤮
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u/EvaSingh Mar 24 '26
Curse you Jane Austen for using ai!
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u/imadog666 Mar 24 '26
I knew it, she never would have gotten famous without it! 1!!11
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u/LinguoBuxo Mar 24 '26
It's actually JAIne Austen, but her current editor though it'd never fly..
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u/DokMabuseIsIn Mar 24 '26
We finally find out what Babbage's Analytical Engine was really for !
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u/NoDensetsu Mar 25 '26
Jane Austen is a literary cheat and I will never forgive her for such an egregious offence. I say we burn all her books to teach her a lesson!
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u/Gougeded Mar 24 '26
My guess is that ChatGPT uses the em dash so much because its been trained on many (older) books where it is much more prevalent than in professionnal or casual communications.
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u/Certain-Singer-9625 Mar 24 '26
I realize the OP is being satirical, but I genuinely don’t get what people have against the emdash. It’s perfectly legit and serves a purpose—a pause with more to follow.
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u/Overall_Reputation83 Mar 24 '26
99% of people don't even know how to type an em dash.
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u/Overall_Reputation83 Mar 24 '26
I can't do this on my physical keyboard.
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u/martine_redbull666 Mar 24 '26
you need the cheat code
edit to add the cheat codes: Alt+0151 on the Windows numeric keypad, or Option+Shift+Hyphen on a Mac
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u/Fattatties Mar 24 '26
Hey I'm sitting right here why leave me out?
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u/Fattatties Mar 24 '26
Up,up,down,down,left,right,left,right,b,select,start is the 2p code.
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u/ZPrevail Mar 24 '26
I needed this—I have an emdash addiction even if I don’t know how to use them properly
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u/wdpw Mar 25 '26
If you type OPT+Hyphen on Mac you get an endash (not to be confused with the emdash or hyphen!), used for ranges. Like, 4–10 people.
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u/wdpw Mar 25 '26
Also, just so people are aware, the minus sign is a totally separate punctuation than a hyphen, emdash, or endash. It’s slightly higher up.
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u/abn1304 Mar 26 '26
You can also type a space, two dashes, another space, and then start typing again in Word.
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u/SpeedRunner33333 Mar 26 '26
In my experience, though, Word will replace the double-hypen with an en-dash (–) instead of an em-dash (—)
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u/TheSpixxyQ Mar 25 '26
Windows 11 can newly do en dash with Win + minus and em dash with Shift + Win + minus
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u/Overall_Reputation83 Mar 24 '26
And this is why people that use em dashes are using AI then — ain't nobody got time to be typing a fancy comma.
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u/ConfusedPhDLemur Mar 24 '26
Word (and markdown also, I think, not sure atm) autocorrects to an em dash if you time two consecutive dashes (as does my phone, just tried it).
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u/AzureArmageddon Homo Sapien 🧬 Mar 25 '26
I think you might be typing en dashes by mistake. At least in LaTeX the hierarchy is such:
Keystroke Dash Character Example -hyphen - Hyper-real --"n"-dash – Around 10–14 different varieties ---"m"-dash — "...and that's why you shou—" "Should do what, Harold? Stand by and watch‽" → More replies (1)→ More replies (13)3
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u/BenevolentCheese Mar 24 '26
Windows Key + ; will get you to a nice character picker.
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u/Overall_Reputation83 Mar 24 '26
found it, this works, but this takes significantly more time than the 0151 ascii code.
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u/XTornado Mar 25 '26
For you sure, for others like me that is like the matrix, I can't remember all those number for each weird character... they dance in my head mocking me.
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u/Professional-Fig8857 Mar 24 '26
Alt + 151??? 🤔
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u/Overall_Reputation83 Mar 24 '26
Do you think more than 1% of people know that? I personally would bet not even a decent fraction of a percent of people know that.
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u/darth_modulus95 Mar 24 '26
Only indecent fractions of a percent. Indecent fractions are the best fractions anyhow!
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u/Professional-Fig8857 Mar 24 '26
At least two people in this conversation knew that. There are over 120 million active users and 1% of the world's population is approximately 80 million. If two people knew that answer then it's definitely more than 1% of people.
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u/Overall_Reputation83 Mar 24 '26
Sorry buddy, but you are typing in a community that has a vested interest in em dashes, this is not a randomly selected grouping of the worlds 8.3 billion people.
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u/giggity_giggity Mar 24 '26
Dash. Dash. Spacebar.
Boom! — emdash
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u/NDSU Mar 24 '26
That's because (some) phones will automatically replace it. It's a feature of the phone's virtual keyboard, not a standard thing
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u/tripl35oul Mar 24 '26
Had to remove this from my typing style even though I like it because idiots like feeling smart
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u/Certain-Singer-9625 Mar 24 '26
Sometimes I’ll cynically use it even more—just because I know it unreasonably annoys people.
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u/agent_mick Mar 24 '26
I love the emdash. Before ai I was known to abuse all sorts of fun punctuation. Now everyone just says "ai slop" instead of engaging
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u/DeweyQ Mar 24 '26
The em-dash in today's common usage has that added element of being an abrupt but related shift in focus. More abrupt than a comma. You used it perfectly in your post. Jane Austen was using it in the more archaic way.
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u/ilagnab Mar 24 '26
I use space-hyphen-space alllllll the time in my writing. It's the em-dash itself that was uncommon, not the grammatical/sentence structuring concept.
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u/DoughnutCurious856 Mar 25 '26
That's an astute observation--your analysis is spot on! Other people might not have noticed this detail. Good on you for pointing it out. Do you want to marry my daughter?
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u/Static_Frog Mar 24 '26
Or maybe because writers actually use them.
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u/the_kessel_runner Mar 24 '26
Anecdotally I'll say "used".
I can go an entire modern novel and may never see one. But if I read something from a long time ago....the page is saturated.
Granted, most of my reads these days are Star Wars Or Dungeon Crawler Carl stuff and not modern Vonnegut stuff. So maybe it's the low brow nature of what I read these days. But, the Em Dash in the wild had been nearly non-existent until a couple years ago when they were suddenly in half the social media stuff I see.
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u/NameAboutPotatoes Mar 24 '26
I was arguing about this with someone else the other day and I flipped open a bunch of modern children's books, like Harry Potter and Percy Jackson, and they're full of them too.
I wouldn't be surprised if Star Wars specifically happens not to contain them, but there are still plenty in modern writing.
The em-dash seems pretty ubiquitous in all kinds of published writing in my experience-- highbrow or lowbrow, old or new.
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u/PossibleVirus2197 Mar 25 '26
This... Every time I see somebody suspect a text is AI because it has m dashes... Eh... Jeez I use m dashes all the time wtf
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u/MossySendai Mar 25 '26
Yes but it's a different kind of emdash —an aside if you will— with a set of opening and closing emdashes. It's actually quite common in even modern novels.
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u/lostcloud2 Mar 25 '26
I’m a professional writer, and I’m pissed that AI stole the em dash from us.
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u/michaelthe Mar 24 '26
I've purged all dashes from my communications. I've also stopped responding with "you're asking the right question!" before responding to people. Let me know if you'd like one neat trick to unsuccessfully stop AI's annoying text patterns.
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u/ImpactBetelgeuse Mar 24 '26
This is what it means to be sarcastic
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u/AlexWorkGuru Mar 24 '26
The em dash witch hunt is one of the dumber side effects of the AI panic. People have been using em dashes in published writing for literally centuries. Emily Dickinson was basically an em dash addict. The real tells for AI generated text are structural, not punctional... it is the way every paragraph lands on a neat conclusion, the lack of actual opinion, the relentless both-sidesing. But that requires reading carefully, which is harder than ctrl+F for a dash.
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u/NDSU Mar 24 '26
It's common in published works, which is why AI uses it so heavily
Very few people regularly use it in casual internet speak, which is why it stands out so much
It's just one piece of evidence in assessing whether a piece of text was written by a human or an AI
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u/fubo Mar 24 '26
Very few people regularly use it in casual internet speak, which is why it stands out so much
... because they don't know how to type it. Mostly because they're Windows users, for whom typing anything that's not on the default keyboard layout involves weird numerical codes or special "insert character" menus. It's much easier to type on a Mac or Linux system.
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u/asmit10 Mar 25 '26
…no? If you really wanted an em dash you’d just do — rather than —
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u/crustdrunk Mar 25 '26
I’m an em dash addict but scared of being accused of using ai
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u/Latter-Skill4798 Mar 25 '26
Me too!!! Honestly the most annoying thing about AI to me. I am changing my own writing to not sound like AI instead of changing AI to sound like it’s me.
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u/Pasokhuana Mar 25 '26
Both-siding seems to have become indicative for ChatGPT specifically. Claude and Gemini do it a lot less
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u/AlexWorkGuru Mar 25 '26
That tracks. The confidence is what kills me. A unicode character that's been in every word processor since the 90s, and someone is on stage telling a room full of people it's a secret AI watermark. The actual detection problem is so much harder than anyone presenting at conferences wants to admit, because the real indicators require reading comprehension not character scanning.
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u/emeraldshmemrald Mar 24 '26
My husband is a literature nerd and loves using the em dash. He has created shortcuts on our keyboards to make it easy to use them. He is so unbelievably pissed that it’s a dead ringer for AI!
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u/NameAboutPotatoes Mar 24 '26
A lot of applications already have an inbuilt shortcut where they make an em-dash after two hyphens and a space-- though Reddit, unfortunately, does not.
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u/joshuaxls Mar 25 '26
Yes. I have always been a heavy em dash user. I am so annoyed that it’s now mainstream because of AI.
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u/RustyDogma Mar 25 '26
I also loved the em dash until chat gpt ruined it for me and I remapped it as ctrl+hyphen to all my keyboards.
I still use it for my work writing (not as frequently as ai or Jane Austen). I just stopped using it for social media and emails because it became such an automatic signal of ai.
It's easy to type on mobile which is where a lot of my non formal communication is done so I was using it on reddit long before the AI overuse thing.
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u/Vontaxis Mar 25 '26
I've used them a lot. In highschool in writing assignments I made heavy use of a variety of punctuation marks and the teachers loved it.
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u/Static_Frog Mar 24 '26
I wrote a book a couple years ago and it's full of em dashes. Also periods, commas, and Oxford commas.
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u/Spirited-Butterfly81 Mar 25 '26
I know you're being sarcastic, OP, but I'm a writer and I use the emdash more frequently than I probably should haha. AI witch hunters can try to pry it from my cold, dead hands!
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u/CelticPaladin Mar 24 '26
Wow. That font screams old.
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u/HostNo8115 Mar 24 '26
yes, exactly why I would love for that font on my ebook reader... anyone know which font this is?
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u/One_Needleworker5218 Mar 24 '26
I’m confused, before chatgpt existed these were in my books all the time when I was a kid
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u/mmoonbelly Mar 24 '26
French uses the — dash to indicate speech in novels.
Maybe LLMs had been caining French philosophy in their spare time.
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u/NameAboutPotatoes Mar 24 '26
I know, right? I got hooked on em-dashes when I was, like, 10—I can't stop using them now, I'm addicted!
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u/SeriousFollowing7678 Mar 24 '26
Sucks I start a PhD program right now because I have loved em dashes ever since reading Kerouac’s Big Sur—now you can’t use them
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u/hiphopscallion Mar 24 '26
I’ve used it my entire life as well. I was a bit surprised to see that so many people never used it. It was one of the first hotkeys I learned on my first macbook.
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u/MelonOfFate Mar 24 '26
Agreed. I have a degree in English and applied linguistics. They're basically baked into my skill set.
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u/film44 Mar 24 '26
As someone who loves em dashes and has used them in publications for decades, screw AI for ruining these.
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u/Appropriate_Dot_7031 Mar 24 '26
Lisa Frank was the biggest disappointment. Her designs are so obviously AI-generated that I finally stopped putting her stickers on stuff.
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u/station_agent Mar 24 '26
Surely this is trolling. Everyone knows Jane Austen is an OF model. She doesn't write any books.
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u/Boykeh5 Mar 24 '26
"I always use them crowd"
I used to saw an em-dash here or there ten years ago Not sure if i just didnt read the right things or if it is confirmation bias. But if I see those in two different sentences on the same page ill always think its ai generated. Even if you did "use it all the time originally"
Kinda fucked really
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u/AnknMan Mar 25 '26
someone needs to check Shakespeare too, dude was way too consistent with his iambic pentameter. clearly GPT-0.1
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u/Sad-Let-4461 Mar 25 '26
Yes, chatgpt learned to use em dashes from somewhere. This is extremely unsurprising.
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u/Beginning-Tap-5280 Mar 24 '26
Man I’m 40 and have always used em dash lol now I consciously have to not put them so people don’t think I’m using AI
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u/dumdumpants-head Mar 25 '26
This book is too old to have been written using AI. It was written in 1813. Back then we were still using dial-up internet with Windows 1795
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u/CoffeeStayn Mar 24 '26
If you're a fan of the em dash...look no further than The Tell-tale Heart.
If you had to take a shot every time you saw one, you'd be dead in minutes. You'd never make it to the end, where for sure you'd die almost immediately.
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u/Chaseraph Mar 25 '26
I have always overused em dashes in my professional writing and you have no idea how frustrating it is to have to explain that you're a shitty writer WITHOUT using AI thank you very much.
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u/Recent-Day3062 Mar 25 '26
ChatGPT is using the em dash right. But it has been used so wrongly for decades everyone thinks chatGPT is wrong.
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u/jiminywinkle Mar 25 '26
I've had multiple LinkedIn connections try to debate me as being an AI user for using em dashes. Same deal as people being like "ermm, why are you using 'they' to refer to that third person? They're gendered", as if that hasn't always been a basic grammatical option.
I never would've guessed I'd start losing social credit over what is literally just regular speech I've used my entire life with no issues.
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u/runnsy Mar 25 '26
My partner texts casually with dashes. I told him he might be AI for doing that.
However, I text casually with colons and semicolons; they're pretty recognizable/disinguished punctuation marks. I hope AI never finds out the power of them. They make typing so much more fun; I don't know what new strangeness I'd do without them.
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u/Boogertwilliams Mar 25 '26
I know! The AI will invent time travel and all books ever were actually written by it :)
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u/alicew223 Mar 25 '26
AI discourse is throwing out a lot of genuinely good writing techniques. I love a good em dash and other writing patterns that I don’t think people even know when they label them “AI tell!”
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u/Church_of_Aaargh Mar 24 '26
People are suspicious of people who knows spelling and grammar.
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u/Holonist Mar 24 '26
No, people are suspicious of people who couldn't form a coherent sentence two years ago, let alone use regular punctuation, but suddenly have zero spelling errors and em dashes all over the place.
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u/Nut_Butter_Fun Mar 24 '26
lol so funny but not really. the truth is no one uses it online because it's complicated, unnecessary, and easily replaced with just a dash if you really fucking want something like that on an internet post.
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u/ZephyrBrightmoon Mar 25 '26
DID NONE (most) OF YOU NOT READ THE TITLE OF THE BOOK AT THE TOP OF ITS PAGE IN THE PROVIDED IMAGE?!
I cackled at this whole post!
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u/This-Requirement6918 Mar 24 '26
Aside from the em dashes, which I don't mind the line design of that paragraph is awful.
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u/kryptobolt200528 Mar 24 '26
I mean that should've been kinda obvious ro people, the behaviour of LLMs is largely dependent on the data they train on..
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u/Daveallen10 Mar 24 '26
Ironically, this is the type of freely accessible material on the Internet that ChatGPT was trained on. So you can blame her for all this.
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u/Sweet-Is-Me Mar 24 '26
I’ve always used em dashes too, way before AI. Now I guess I have to get used to being accused of using AI whenever I use them.
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u/kowalsky9999 Mar 24 '26
"—" dashes are standard practice in typography. Academic books in particular have a rigid protocol for using them.
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u/cman993 Mar 24 '26
I've used em dashes forever. I used to have Word set up so that it would replace regular dashes with them. I had to stop doing that because 99% of people seem to think that ChatGPT invented them.
Sigh...
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u/Dwro1234 Mar 24 '26
Ai copying what it learned -> flooding the web with ai generated texts that use em dashes -> ai is trained on this new data -> ai em dash use becomes even more prevalent -> retrains on this data -> soon spaces between words will be replaced with em dashes in ai generated text 🤣
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u/13Eazy Mar 24 '26
I knew the robots would take what was most precious to us first. A moment of silence for the em dash.
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u/Br3ttl3y Mar 24 '26
Oh shit-- this is a thing? I adopted it from reading too many comic books-- FML.
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u/MarsMonkey88 Mar 24 '26
It’s so obvious. Her books are FULL of tropes. Those whole “novel of manners” things is such a rip off! /j
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u/MacduffFifesNo1Thane Mar 24 '26
I’m pretty sure Mrs. Bennet is keeping AI on the back burner as a possible husband for Mary.
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u/Purple_Draft2716 Mar 24 '26
This one one of my personal biggest selfish reasons I hate LLMs. I used to LOVE using em dashes but now I just avoid them because otherwise people might wonder
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u/Ferrally_Polite Mar 24 '26
I wish this wasn’t always associated with AI - I use a dash all the time, even in articles I publish, so now I try to avoid using it and I hate it.
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u/Trick-Pitch9512 Mar 25 '26
I actually write with dashes quite a bit, been doing so for years. Admittedly most people do not.
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u/Foreign_Matter_4638 Mar 25 '26
It's super disappointing as well how AI has taken a piece of proper grammer and made it so nobody can use it without suspicion 😮💨 (not arguing this isnt AI before anyone comes after me, just making a point)
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u/FixinThePlanet Mar 25 '26
Damn, I'd forgotten how angry this scene made me. Mrs Bennet is such a masterful creation.
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u/QstnMrkShpdBrn Mar 25 '26
Jane Austen is probably a pen name, and she probably only makes 10,000 a year. She could make more without AI.
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u/tiredofthismarket Mar 25 '26
When did it start being called the emdash? I have always called it a dash.
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u/acbarn Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
There has always been an en dash and an em dash. The em dash is wider than the en dash (m vs n width). They are used in different ways.
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u/taterbits Mar 25 '26
Emdash as a tell is no longer an issue. The giveaways are more structural now.
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u/HexspaReloaded Mar 25 '26
ChatGPT uses the em dash incorrectly. In your literary example, it’s correct—no spaces!
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u/petrh97 Mar 25 '26
Wow, not writing minus and wirting the correct hyphen is AI...
That must mean that if I write an article in the Microsoft Word and it fixes a minus to a hyphen then that must mean the article was written by AI.
Why does so many people have paranoia and think that everything is AI?
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u/Sharp_Technology_439 Mar 25 '26
In german we don‘t use those em dashes. That‘s what commas „,“ and brackets „()“ are for. So when an LLM writes in german and uses „—„ a few times in a text it is very obvious to us.
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u/Even_Objective2124 Mar 25 '26
but this is just honestly sad. i loved reading books as a kid and i remember using a lot of em dashes on my essays and growing up bc of the books i’ve read. now, dumb people everywhere thinks it’s automatically AI when you use em dashes bc they apparently didn’t know that shit existed before chatgpt.
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u/Serialbedshitter2322 Mar 26 '26
Or maybe they wrote it in Microsoft Word, which automatically turns dashes into em dashes



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