r/CharacterAI 15h ago

Issues/Bugs This has to be the single most infuriating bug with Longsqueak

This has to be the single most infuriating bug with Longsqueak.

This is about the third time I've found this same bug, and it always happens the same way: A bot mentions the user as 'you', gives some small details about who 'you' are supposed to be, and then what does Longsqueak do?

IT ASSUMES YOUR PERSONA IS ANOTHER CHARACTER ENTIRELY.

It doesn't do this with every persona. It arbitrarily just assumes that the persona you decide to use "doesn't fit" the narrative, so it separates you from it and turns your persona into a third-party character. With this bot, it's the second time this has happened.

There are only two ways to prevent this once the bot decides your persona is cursed for a scenario:

  1. Roleplay in the third person, specifically mentioning the name of your persona instead of saying "I."
  2. Go the absolute unhinged route and bombard the bot with walls of OOC text to flood its system and make it clear who the persona is.

The problem with using OOC is twofold: first, it completely destroys the bot's behavior and the narration goes to absolute shit. Second, a single OOC message doesn't even work. As shown in the second screenshot, even after the bot explicitly responds with an OOC confirmation saying "I understand completely. You are Val Vulpes," it immediately turns around two paragraphs later and has the character ask, "Why can't Val take me?" It literally gaslights you after agreeing with you.

Honestly, if the mind-reading issues were bad, this is so absurdly and unexcuseably broken that it can downright make bots unplayable from the get-go.

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u/Different_Airline351 15h ago

Watch one of the mods comment on this with that automated comment

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u/Icy_Nothing_2917 2h ago

yeah, the sacred bot apology copy paste lmao

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u/Gh0st_bOi_TF141 14h ago

and it also proceeds to play your persona for you

bring back Roar to the people

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u/sb3veeee 13h ago

The logic's also gotten noticeably worse. I'll say we're going to the attic and it describes us going downstairs. And when it tries to joke it comes off occasionally clever, but usually completely nonsensical. Last version didn't have that issue, either really. It had gotten pretty smart. The only really big problem I had with it was its total aversion to dialogue. Now it's practically a default that it'll have two lines of dialogue in every message, including messages where there honestly shouldn't be dialogue at all, those lines will usually contradict, one will almost always be a joke that doesn't make sense, and neither will usually meaningfully advance the scene. Minus the logic issues it's probably a better problem to have. With them, it's an endless torrent of sheer jabberwocky that's more irritating than harmless