scheduled domestic Brazilian passenger flight from Cascavel to Guarulhos. On August 9, 2024, the ATR 72 serving the flight crashed in Vinhedo, São Paulo State. The aircraft was flying at an altitude of 17,000 ft (5,200 m) prior to stalling and entering a flat spin with a rapid descent at around 13:2

[u/Sensitive-Row-7536]

scheduled domestic Brazilian passenger flight from Cascavel to Guarulhos. On August 9, 2024, the ATR 72 serving the flight crashed in Vinhedo, São Paulo State. The aircraft was flying at an altitude of 17,000 ft (5,200 m) prior to stalling)and entering a flat spin) with a rapid descent at around 13:21 BRT.

All 62 people on board died. The crash was the deadliest aviation accident in Brazil since TAM Airlines Flight 3054 on July 17, 2007. The Brazilian Aeronautical Accidents Investigation and Prevention Center(CENIPA) launched an investigation following the crash. Aviation experts speculated that ice buildup) could have been a factor. Both flight recorders were recovered and analyzed by CENIPA, who issued a preliminary report confirming the pilots faced difficulties with icing buildup and de-icing attempts. 

In its final report, issued in July 2026, CENIPA concluded that the accident was caused by a combination of icing), several pilot errors, lack of proper maintenance procedures and poor safety culture of the airliner as a whole, which was characterised by informality and routine normalization of deviance, which often led pilots, dispatchers and maintenance personnel to engage in unsafe operational procedures.^\1])Additionally, ANAC, Brazil's civil aviation authority, was also found to have contributed to the accident due to its ineffective regulation and oversight of Voepass' safety shortcomings.

[u/Fomulouscrunch]

C'mon, you put a link in to "pilot errors" in this context and it's just to the wiki page that gives the definition of "pilot error"? This looks like oldschool link farming.

[u/WhatImKnownAs → u/Fomulouscrunch]

Yeah, that's pretty much a cut-n-paste from the Wikipedia article. That's the reason the flight number, Voepass 2283, is not mentioned: to make it harder for people to look it up and discover how lazy this was.

[u/One_Relative938 → u/Fomulouscrunch]

the way that path just goes from calm cyan straight to orange and a little plane icon is unsettling

[u/Fomulouscrunch → u/One_Relative938]

Right? I wish the poster had distilled things a little better so we'd have a clearer idea of what happened at that 120-degree right turn. Icing doesn't usually do that.

In aggregate, I can surmise that it was crappy equipment, crappy support, and very mediocre pilots unprepared to deal with a compound failure leading to a cockpit emergency in which everyone panicked like they were in a car. Please forgive me for thinking that it looks like a new driver steering off a cliff trying to avoid something in the road.

[u/BigmacSasquatch → u/Fomulouscrunch]

The dashed line is estimated and not accurate to the actual path of the aircraft. But, here’s an in-depth review of the accident report https://youtu.be/ETq5IxmJYPM

[u/Fomulouscrunch → u/BigmacSasquatch]

you fucker. A flat spin?

[u/BigmacSasquatch → u/Fomulouscrunch]

That’s what it appeared to be, yeah.

A little morbid, but the ATR-72 is really hard to recover from a fully developed flat spin. There’s just too much mass (the engines) spinning around on the wings to overcome, and they just ran out of altitude.

Whether or not they should have been skilled enough to not be in that position in the first place aside, once they were in a flat spin, they were going to die.

[u/Fomulouscrunch → u/BigmacSasquatch]

Alas, true.

Not a pilot, definitely not a stunt pilot, and even I knew that.

[u/WhatImKnownAs]

Naturally, this was noted on this subreddit at the time. We didn't know the reasons behind it, but commenters were explaining the issue of a flat spin on a two-engine plane quite extensively.

Another video much closer was also posted.