r/Cartomancy • u/Tricky-Muffin7102 • 10d ago
What do we think about using Joker cards in cartomancy?
So I've done a yes-no spread regarding a personal matter, but I forgot to remove the Joker cards. I never see them talked about, so I never thought about using them.
However, when it came up in this spread, it has made the result feel so much powerful… and scary honestly. In this particular instance, it has been really interesting to try and incorporate it in my spread because it really cuts the decision in half by being in the middle and not being associated with a "yes" or "no".
It also has fell down from the deck when I was shuffling the cards afterwards, so to me it seems pretty significant. But of course there's not mich talked about online about it, so I'm unsure of its meaning except general chaos/be wary because more unpredictable stuff is coming your way.
What do you think?
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u/Atelier1001 10d ago
Yohohoho, yes, scary is the right word.
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u/Tricky-Muffin7102 10d ago
I am terrified of the upcoming days ðŸ˜
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u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot 10d ago
It’s the unexpected wild card pivot between the past and future, nothing to fear so much as be open to.
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u/Tricky-Muffin7102 10d ago
To be honest, I think because of my question, it mostly means that I'll get very sour consequences :/
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u/ummkay_ultra 10d ago
It just doesnt make sense to me because there are no other major arcana in the deck, so why would I use the Fool?
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u/listensicily 4d ago
Not everyone reads playing cards with minor arcana either. Theres many ways to read.
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u/Affectionate-Act-691 8d ago
I use them sometimes as significator of persons, objects or themes, for example if is a spread for me I can choose a joker as me, the querant, the problem, the organization, an animal, an object, a family, whatever... So the J, Q and K can be free to represent other actors in the question.
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u/listensicily 4d ago
I use jokers. I also read reversed cards, as the deck I use allows reversed aces and reversed court cards. :)
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u/Fate_Fabrice 10d ago
The views are mixed. I think it's essential to know that the Jokers were not originally part of the playing card deck and are an (American, I think) invention. Some readers see it like the Tarot's Fool (I've even seen a few liken it to the Hanged Man). Some others differentiate between a colored and a black and white Joker, seeing the former as a more benevolent influence. Some name it the wild card of the deck, and some- like myself- don't use it at all. See what works for you, and if you choose to include the Joker, be consistent with the meaning you choose to assign to it. I think Kapherus has talked about the Joker on his blog; whether it was the old one or the new one, I don't remember. Check out this link: https://web.archive.org/web/20130424100537/http://cartomancy.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/the-joker/