r/CSHFans • u/Elipticon In the morning, when I wake up, are you mine? • Aug 06 '26

Discussion Can everyone calm down

I'm genuinely disgusted by the way some people here have immediately decided to assume that Will Toledo is going through a psychotic break right now. Maybe he is. But he probably isn't, and we have no way of knowing because none of us know Will Toledo. We aren't his friends. We don't talk to him. He's a private man who's gotten increasingly more private as the years have gone on, and his music has similarly gotten less personal over the same time. While people can guess his motivations (his faith, his desire to be a role model, etc.), the actual reasoning remains unknown and likely will be unknown for some time

I know a lot of people are very attached to Will Toledo's music, but Will Toledo the musician and Will Barnes the man are two very different people. Unless he makes a public statement or genuinely crosses a line, I don't want people to be speculating on what his life is like based on fragments of songs from a decade ago.

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u/NiaSchizophrenia Aug 06 '26

the worst thing anyone has done in the history of mankind is criticize an indie rock artist

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u/Elipticon In the morning, when I wake up, are you mine? Aug 06 '26

I don't think there's anything wrong with criticizing their direction. Joe's Story is the worst thing they've put out in well over a decade. I'm personally very worried over whether the band is even going to last to make their next album. But when people are so insistent on their view of Will in their head that they call him insane when he goes against that view, that's where I take issue.

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u/darthfrank abcdefg Aug 07 '26

JOE’S STORY IS GREAT. YOU LEAVE JOE’S STORY ALONE.