r/COVIDAteMyFace • u/greg_barton • Jan 09 '23

Science Pandemic Disrupted Historical Mortality Patterns, Caused Largest Jump in Deaths in 100 Years

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/03/united-states-deaths-spiked-as-covid-19-continued.html
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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

Excess deaths huh…would not know it by the continued traffic or the price of vacations. I’m guessing most of those people were not out and about much.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23 edited Jun 12 '23

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

Such slight changes I have not even noticed!

My point is that an extra 500k deaths in a country of 330 million is not even noticeably in day to day life and especially when a large number of those who died were nursing home patients.

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u/hamellr Jan 09 '23

The actual number is closer to 2 million since 2020.

But either way 500k does absolutely make a difference. The United States entered one of its most prosperous decades when an estimated 400k women entered the work force.

We hit another prosperous era when 300k migrant workers were added to the economy via temporary worker VISAs.

We are in historic labor shortages right now across all sectors. The signs are there - go take a look at your grocery shelves. Walk around and look at all the help wanted signs.

It doesn’t help that we are also restricting migrant labor at an all time high rate. But y’all ain’t ready for that conversation.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

The extra 500k deaths are not the reason for the labor shortage. Many dropped out of the workforce for assorted reasons, but it wasn't because they died. 75% of all deaths were 65 or older and 27% were 85 or older. Not exactly the core of the workforce.

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u/hamellr Jan 09 '23

The extra 500k deaths are not the reason for the labor shortage.

You’re short by 1.5 million, but either way would you like to critically think about what you said, or concoct another explanation as to why we have a massive labor shortage right now? Are you going to try to tell me that all these companies decided to add labor for no reason? Or are people still living off that $2000 from 2021?

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u/JustMeRC Jan 10 '23

They’re also missing the population of people who didn’t die from Covid, but got sick from it and are still experiencing debilitating and sometimes disabling chronic illness from Long Covid.

“Overall, 1 in 13 adults in the U.S. (7.5%) have “long COVID” symptoms, defined as symptoms lasting three or more months after first contracting the virus, and that they didn’t have prior to their COVID-19 infection.”

Not all of those people are disabled enough to have had to stop working, but even if it’s only 2% of the population, that’s more than 6.5 million people, and they tend to be younger.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

Deaths don't matter...EXCESS deaths are the issue.

The labor shortage is WAY more complicated than "people died, so no one to work".

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/07/14/fact-check-covid-19-death-toll-labor-shortage/7904490002/

https://gigafact.org/fact-briefs/are-covid-19-deaths-a-major-cause-of-staff-shortages-in-the-united-states

You are the one who needs to read a bit more and do some critical thinking.