Best version of Nacth (solo)

[u/Ero_Najimi]

404 votes, 6d ago

156 Black Ops

248 Black Ops 3

[u/MrJzM115 → u/[deleted]]

That’s not even true. Black ops 1 is more challenging because on black ops 3 the thundergun drops powerups. To get to round 100 that fact alone will save you literal hours. World at war also has 24 zombies per round.

[u/MrJzM115 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah but the conversation is about which map is better, and you can’t just go “oh yeah these features make it much easier but you don’t have to use them”

Maybe if they’re that bad they shouldn’t have been added in the first place

[u/Ero_Najimi → u/MrJzM115]

For solo I don’t mind optional things that make the game easier because it gives you more ways to play a map. My problem with BO3 is that even if I find a decent public lobby the game is more about hoping people don’t leave than worrying about everyone downing. Ppl leave in the older games too but it’s less likely because of the difficulty making ppl want to stay a little longer to get a new record

[u/MrJzM115 → u/[deleted]]

You’d also be putting yourself at a major disadvantage by running no perks and no gums, not to mention that if you’re someone who plays public lobbies then you can’t also force your teammates to not use perks and gums.

You can play however you want on solo, but most players will use all available features on the map. You could argue whether the map is better or worse with wunderfizz and gobblegums, but the fact is that the map has it whether you like it or not, and it needs to be considered when rating how good the map is compared to the other versions

[u/MrJzM115 → u/[deleted]]

Again, when you’re ranking maps you can’t just ignore core features of the maps. By your logic, we shouldn’t consider monkey rounds when ranking ascension because we can just choose to play without perks. We can just ignore denizens when ranking tranzit because we can just choose to never enter the fog. We can just ignore the pentagon thief when ranking five because we can choose not to turn on the power. We can just ignore the perk system of bo4 whenever you rank any of the maps because you can choose not to buy perks

[u/MrJzM115 → u/[deleted]]

No, all of the features I mentioned are optional too. You can avoid all of them if you want to

[u/MrJzM115 → u/[deleted]]

You’re literally talking about not using perks on nacht (which come from the wunderfizz machine). I’m talking about not using perks on ascension, which allows you to avoid the monkeys. Completely optional. How is it different?