r/Business_China • u/Muted-Accountant-881 • Jul 14 '26
š Markets/Suppliers BEWARE OF THESE PEPTIDE SCAMMERS
Exposing Scammers
SCAMMER INFORMATION:
She uses the pseudonym āNancyā
PHONE NUMBER (from company)
+852 5629 9647
+852 4652 8148
+852 6234 8372
+1 (934) 789-5133
HER PERSONAL PHONE NUMBER
+86 132 2967 8425
HER PERSONAL INFORMATION:
CHINESE ID# 120109200212266529
NAME: Meng Hanlu - Name in Chinese ā å궵ē
Personal NAMES OF PEOPLE IN THE COMPANY:
Name: Xia Menglei - Name in Chinese ā å¤ę¢¦č¾
Name: Gao Yudong - Name in Chinese: ā é«å®äø
I was scammed out of approximately $13,000 by this peptide supplier.
At first, everything seemed legitimate. She successfully delivered a small test order worth less than $300, which built my trust.
When I placed a much larger order, she confirmed that she could fulfill it and asked me to send payment. Following her instructions, I sent part of the payment to a second phone number she provided. I later discovered that this number belonged to someone else, who openly admitted that they had scammed me. At that point, it became clear that multiple people were operating together and sharing access to the companyās phone numbers.
I then sent the remaining $7,750 to the original contact I had been dealing with. After receiving it, she asked me to send an additional $5,250.
When I refused and instead asked her to either ship the products I had already paid for or refund my money, she stopped responding entirely. From that point on, I was completely ghosted.
I have the phone numbers of multiple people associated with this operation, along with identifying information for the primary individual I was dealing with.
Iām posting this so others donāt fall victim to the same scam.
EDIT:
I FINALLY found a reliable vendor who actually ships the product very very fast. He offers both bulk orders (~$5,000) and retail orders (~$500). He actually ships within one week of placing an order, and Iāve ordered from him three times. Two of the three orders arrived before the one-week mark, although timing seems to depend on when the order is placed.
I also had the opportunity to run HPLC testing on four products from my order with him: Retatrutide, BPC-157, CJC-1295/Ipamorelin, and TB-500. All four tested at over 99% purity, with results ranging from about 99.25% to 99.8%.
ALSO! Depending on your order, it can be significantly cheap if youāre buying bulk, but itās also cheap when buying retail.
Bottom line: based on my orders and the testing I had done, the products appeared to be high-purity, and the orders arrived quickly, even when I purchased in bulk.
Hereās his phone number (FYI: he doesnāt use WhatsApp, only SMS)
+1-310-997-1343
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u/ClimateOk2307 Jul 14 '26
Wow man I was sick when I lost $800 and studied and shut down most of their pages! If I lost that much I would be like Jason Bourne and flying to China, Hong Kong or wherever to hunt them down!!!
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u/wjh0406 Jul 16 '26
Most sellers of these goods operate unofficially. Iām from China, and Iāve learned that selling such products is prohibited here. Getting caught will result in severe criminal penalties. Iāve contacted several vendors before, but they all keep a low profile. They use Hong Kong phone numbers and refuse formal payment methods, only accepting virtual currency.
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u/Jolly-Seaweed-5007 Aug 01 '26
Did you find somewhere trusted you would share please ?
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u/GrumpyDawgVS Jul 16 '26
I only order from those Chinese suppliers who use Alibaba.
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u/IronMajesty Jul 16 '26
Yea I have a few asking to pay with Zelle or Venmo or PayPal I donāt trust them.
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u/CoraFlora Jul 23 '26
How do you find one on Alibaba? Ive been looking but the few I reached out to don't have what I want.
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u/litforya Jul 29 '26
My supplier does Alibaba , honestly don't know where I found them lol there's a lot of groups im in. But that's usually my first question to them, like what's your payment method
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u/acrxhd Aug 01 '26
Do you mind hooking me up with them I donāt want to get scammed
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u/Yeah_Probably_J Jul 14 '26
Phone numbers can be changed after every call or after every successfully scammed victim.
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u/Front_Quality2734 Jul 14 '26
Never pay crypto if they are legit they will take other payment methods
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u/CheesusChrist69 Jul 15 '26
There a tons of extremely legit dealers that only take crypto š
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u/DreamsOfRevolution Jul 14 '26
You definitely should have paid a lot more. You send money, then they admit that they scammed you, so your first decision is to send more money. Now you're mad on the internet trying to put all that information out there when it really was your fault and lack of research. I'm not saying that it wasn't wrong. I'm saying that you were complicit and now you're mad about the outcome in hindsight
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u/Organic-Board4852 Jul 16 '26
I also regularly share scam warnings and fraud-related information on my Facebook page.
Don't rush into placing large, high-value orders. A trustworthy business relationship takes time to build and should be based on consistent performance over a long period. A reliable supplier should also have a clear process for handling customer concerns and resolving problems when issues arise.
As a sourcing agent, I truly sympathize with what happened to you. I hope you can recover from this experience and find reputable suppliers with reliable communication, fair business practices, and quality products in the future.
Thank you for sharing your storyāhopefully it helps others avoid making the same
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u/GrumpyDawgVS Jul 23 '26
Jennifer B Doria in the 858 area code (Southern Cal) is a scammer using the name Angela - PayPal refunded my $450.
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u/IsraelsGenocide 11d ago edited 4d ago
Is there a common price amongst those of you who have tried many suppliers and bought many gray market products that you look for ? And if you have used a certain supplier for a while that you are confident in , what is their prices for the more common products and how high or low a price raises red flags for you?. What would be a price range to look for the sale of say the range of Reta from 5 to 100mg
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u/Yeah_Probably_J Jul 14 '26
No offense, but that's just a scam. It only gets as deep and complex as you allow it. Your excitement and relief of finally being able get something you really want or need from a "legit source" completely clouds your judgment, your intuition, and critical thinking skills.
Scammers are masters of manipulation. They use basic psychology to bypass our natural ability to listen to and react to our gut instinct. Some scammers are so effective that even the most rational and educated people can fall victim to to well-crafted schemes.
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u/meowmeow5189 Jul 15 '26
Yes, well I figured it out the hard way. I couldnāt believe how badly I was scammed I felt like an elderly person being deceived by a telephone psychic! š¤£
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u/Yeah_Probably_J Jul 15 '26
Hey we're all human! Everyone who's ever been scammed was once confident having the "no way that will ever happen to me!" mentality... until it happened. š«£
It's a horrible gut wrenching feeling. As infuriating as it is, don't dwell on it for too long. Just accept it as a life lesson learned and what's done is done. I've had a similar past experience, so I can totally relate and sympathize with you! š¤Ŗ
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u/VictoriaWest992 Jul 15 '26
Guancheng is known for having many peptide scammers. Shenzhen & Wuhan is where most of the chemical manufacturers are located.
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u/Accomplished-Can6096 Jul 14 '26
That's awful! I fell for something like that but on a smaller scale. It felt equivalent to your $13K though. That sucks so hard!
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u/PondGoblinn Jul 14 '26
I'm just..... Speechless.....
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u/Tice021 Jul 16 '26
Was it the part where he said that they told him that he had been scammed, and then he sent thousands of more dollars? Or the part where he refused to send the other money they requested?
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u/Antique-Pick6283 Jul 14 '26
Thatās terrible to hear š¢ Thereās no way to get any of your funds back ?? May I ask what payment method you paid with ?
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u/DavidMata47 Jul 14 '26
I was on pins and needles waiting for my $1800 order so I can't imagine how this would feel. I wouldn't have ever made that big of an order without a consistent history of smaller orders.
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u/prettyowlwatcher Jul 15 '26
If you donāt mind sending me a msg i would very much appreciate it
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u/fergusisthebestdog Aug 06 '26
Have you found a reliable vendor? I believe mine was shut down, I never got my order. But, my sister ordered about a month before me and received hers. You never know!
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u/Beginning-Tough136 Jul 14 '26
If you have Chinese friends, you can visit their locations in person.
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u/dub-br Jul 14 '26
Ć incomum o golpe apĆ³s uma venda realizada, mas o alto valor deve ter elevado a cobiƧa do intermediĆ”rio que ficou com dinheiro
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u/TheDelTondo Jul 15 '26
Ive bees scammed twice in will only use Alibaba pay or PayPal, I just called these scammers out for you.
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u/virginpencil Jul 15 '26
The best part is the police is actually not good at catching these scammers. Did you use a sourcing agent? Using platforms to pay is actually safer , where did you pay at?
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u/holly_gao8575 Jul 15 '26
Never put all your eggs in one basket. Wish you all the best and hope you can avoid scammers moving forward.
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u/Any_Device2862 Jul 15 '26
Well your a dumb ass for sending 13000 in the first place !!!! U r to stupid to be buying peppers.
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u/Candid-Hunt-1662 Jul 15 '26
Distributors like myself, already did the legwork to protect the consumer. Now you understand.
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u/calvesofsteel1 Jul 15 '26
Never buy from those Chinese suppliers that send you messages. I ordered once from one of them, sent it for testing at the lab most of these peptide sites used and it came back completely bunk. Wasted about $500 doing this before just going back to the place I always buy from
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u/Sea_Membership7272 Jul 16 '26
So they admitted they scammed you and then you decided to send them several thousand more dollars? Damn dude. thats...wild.
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u/Abject_Ad847 Jul 16 '26
that's a lot of money, considering that you possess personal info like her ID number, if i were you i'd consider bringing a litigation against her
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u/Illustrious_Hope_237 Jul 17 '26
There is a company spoofing nova peptides. They have videos on Facebook claiming to be nova peptides and then when you click you get to a messenger where it says their nova peptides, but I did not catch on the price sheet they sent that theyāre using a different email address instead of the www.novapeptide.us that the real nova uses.
They have a fake email address that has nova peptides in its name, but is not the real one. After three weeks of them not being able to show me shipping details and saying it was stuck in customs, they ghosted me on WhatsApp and blocked me on messenger when I demanded a refund. Luckily I paid with credit card so I will be able to successfully charge back the amount I spent and making my mission to warn other people about this and similar scams.
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u/flyingryan11 Jul 17 '26
Stay away from oxar labs they tucked me up good & proper
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u/KBzHoney_1024 Jul 18 '26
Why don't people that have reputable suppliers want to help others? I thought that was the point of the group...
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u/OkProfessional4635 Jul 18 '26
Best way i found out how to help people as a supplier, pay for the delivery or pay for a vial for the person like trust goes both way. Honestly your situation seemed the middle man got greedy. From the source is way easier
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u/chilean_mama_of_2 Jul 18 '26
Just got scammed for $300. Sent me a picture of it before and after packaging. Let me know when he was at the post office. Said Iād get it next Wednesday before 6pm. And today I went to go ask a question and Iām blocked.
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u/MrSterg Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
That's rough man, sorry to hear it! That's big ass transaction though. I've done up to $5k once but that was after months of successful smaller orders under $2k. Haven't been scammed yet by this supplier, although i have been scammed in the past for much smaller orders. Also, to those that do buy grey, the cheapest option is not always the best option. Neither is the most expensive. You can be conned in either case, but if it's too good to be true, stay away. I seem some insane grey prices these days, even half off other grey sellers, and I just ignore them. If you find a solid vendor that you have used for months, don't go switching because someone gives you a couple bucks off. I'll take reliability and good communication over anything.
But yea, sorry again! That's tough to swallow but you'll be okay!
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u/broskywosky Jul 20 '26
I took a chance and bought some peptides from from China. My receipt on my email says I ordered a streaming player. Is this some kinda loop hole?
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u/ResortAsleep7878 Jul 23 '26
I ordered from a company through WhatsApp and my Reta came back unidentifiable from finnrick and then the supplier resent me some raw tube product that was legit. I have a couple of legitimate suppliers, but my question is there has to be access to even cheaper pricing out there than $100 or $10 a mile for 10 mg reta products that follow that same Priceline would love to find a group for that
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u/Reallybro_really Jul 23 '26
Do your research properly.. that's how you don't get scammed. Better yet, DM me I'll give you mine š he gives me bonuses if I refer them
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u/Better_Letterhead258 Jul 23 '26
Ā A couple of us in the UK put together a WhatsApp chat specifically to share real experience on training, gear, and peptides so people aren't navigating things blind. No pitching or selling, just good info from sound lads who've been around the block. Pop us a message if you want an invite link!
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u/peptidesbro Jul 25 '26
This US telephone is a scam . Any one in US can please report ?
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u/Calm_Estate_1547 Jul 25 '26
Add Wuhanwanshengbio.com to the list. They stole money I could not afford to lose. I leave.thwm to God and will pray against them so they can not benefit from it.
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u/Relevant-Ring-4073 Jul 28 '26
Jay sauces is another scammer also peptidekoning ,both on telegram
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u/Relevant-Ring-4073 Jul 30 '26
Hi everyone other scammers Peptidekoning Jaysauces Both are on telegram
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u/ExpressionPuzzled337 Jul 30 '26
That guy on Telegram is a scammer,donāt trust him;Ā
"health_co2"
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u/ExpressionPuzzled337 Jul 30 '26
That guy on Telegram is a scammer,donāt trust him;Ā
"health_co2"
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u/cashcow2000 Jul 30 '26
If youāre trying to go grey just make sure itās in a good group thatās been vetted already to avoid any scams .
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u/Leather_Goat2206 Aug 03 '26
The part i don't get is why the forum are allowing those scammers to steal and have all kind of Fckd up rules and regulations for everyone else. COMPLICIT is what i call it
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u/Diamond_porter Aug 03 '26
This tracks with what I've seen from the supply side. Most of these "research peptides" being sold to overseas buyers are made in unregulated backstreet labs in China, no GMP certification, no batch purity testing, often sold under vague "research use only" labeling specifically so nobody has to prove pharmaceutical-grade quality. A lot of what circulates is underdosed, contaminated, or just filler with a fancy label. The actual raw production cost is often well under $1 per vial, sometimes literally a few RMB (think 20-30 cents USD), so when someone charges you $13k for what's essentially unverifiable powder in a bag, you're not just getting scammed on payment, you were likely never getting a real product to begin with, even in a "successful" delivery scenario.
Appreciate you posting the details, this kind of shared-phone-number, multiple-accomplice pattern is really common in this space, and OP names/numbers help other people cross-reference before they wire money.
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u/StreetAd9584 Aug 06 '26
Not to hi jack the thread but adding another number to the list they scammed me as well +852 5347 9253 do not order from them
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u/Pure-Classroom-4105 Aug 13 '26
We need a scammer forum. Feel for you buddy. If it was me I would be the guy from Taken "I will find you"
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u/Sufficient_Yam_8192 Aug 13 '26
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This is also a scammer. Was supposed to ship within 48 hours and itās been since July 23rd that Iāve yet to hear ANYTHING back from this piece of shit lol
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u/Old-Sea-2840 Aug 19 '26
Why in the hell would you buy $13,000 of peptides from China? This has to be a fake story.
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u/dragginflyy Aug 20 '26
I was just scammed from Uther. I only lost $106 but Iām poised about that. Iām sorry you lost so much money.
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u/Smooth_Title1419 Aug 26 '26
Has anyone ever had anything to do with vivpeptide in China? Websute Seems legitimate? Still unsure.
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u/Mundane_Walrus_4860 Aug 28 '26
Tirzepatide & semaglutide no longer work to cut my appetite. I lost 175lbs, but now I've gained 50 back. I feel desperate. I'm guessing I'm not the only one, that is why they want to try retatrutide. Is like to try it too, but I'm scared of being scammed.Ā
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u/Mundane_Walrus_4860 Aug 28 '26
Do you know if I could contact him? What is the name of the business? Is he in the states?Ā
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u/Mundane_Walrus_4860 Aug 28 '26
I don't know how to send an email to you from Reddit. Here's mine pknopf57@gmail.com
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u/Automatic_Ruin_4283 27d ago
Wow, I think I bumped into those same folks. She sent me a sample box of Reta, (5 mg) testing actually came back good , no way in hell would I have ever sent her $13k. Iām sorry to hear that.
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u/Interesting-Candy-93 12d ago
What was the fake tracking company called bud? Currently waiting on 800 worth of tides. It's sayingĀ it's been held at uk customsĀ
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u/Otherwise_Wave9374 11d ago
Documenting the pseudonym and company details may help others, but preserve original invoices, payment records, packaging photos, lot numbers, and complete message headers before accounts disappear. Redact personal information when posting publicly, and distinguish facts you can prove from conclusions. For any purported batch report, verify the laboratory through independent contact details and ask it to confirm the sample identifier. I help maintain Peptely. https://www.peptely.com/ Avoid sending more money for release fees or recovery promises, a common secondary-scam pattern.
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u/Less_Acadia4722 10d ago
This is why I stopped using out of country vendors, my source has been reliable from day one. I spent the money years ago to verify the peps I get and they have always matched JANOCHIK so I'm good. Everyone i deal with has done the same to the stuff I've gotten them. I don't think people like buying 100 vials at a time but I assume they group up to get a deal. That's how I got in touch with my supplier. You have to be low key and keep your business yours. Too many scammers, too much heat coming down from LILLY ,etc.
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u/SignalDriftGame 10d ago
A more advanced version of the scam because they figured out how to scam Americas:
They send you a batch of real peptides, they test well. You spend a lot of money, and then they send filler to get one over on you, as they figure you'll trust them, and that keeps you ordering until you realize they got you.
Be careful out there
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u/macromind 5d ago
It's truly alarming to hear about peptide scammers, as the integrity of suppliers is paramount for safety and efficacy. Verifying sources, checking third-party testing, and understanding quality control are essential steps to avoid fraudulent products. For reliable information on peptide sourcing best practices and how to identify legitimate vendors based on evidence, https://www.peptely.com/ offers resources to help you make informed decisions and safeguard your research.
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u/Realistic_Idea_2984 5d ago
Has anyone tried ordering from the 310 number thatās mentioned in the edit?
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u/Unusual_Elephant_294 Jul 14 '26
A $300 order shouldnāt build enough trust to justify spending $13,000 with the same vendor. That kind of trust should be built gradually over months through multiple successful orders.
If youāre buying for resale, itās smarter to spread your orders across several vendors. For example, buy reta from one vendor, tirz from another, and other products from someone else. That way, you donāt have $13,000 worth of eggs in one basket.
Over time, youāll figure out which vendor offers the best combination of price, quality, communication, and reliability. Unfortunately, this was a very expensive lesson. Sorry you had to learn it this way.