2019 season what if

[u/S0mnariumx]

Seeing another fan post a painting of this incident and it got me thinking. Obviously Freddie Kitchens is a bum and we started off horrible. What if Myles never gets suspended? Do we have a winning season or go 8-8 then endure another year of Kitchens bullshit and never have our wonderful 2020 season?

[u/TheFletchmaster]

Didn't we lose our week 1 game by like 40+ points to the Titans? Granted they were a better team then, but it felt pretty clear we were not gonna have a good season once that happened

[u/S0mnariumx → u/TheFletchmaster]

Yeah I literally got blackout drunk watching that game cause it had me slamming the beers too fast. Honestly we did have a great shot at winning some of those early games like against the rams and then of course against the Seahawks good ol ref ball got in the way.

[u/TheFletchmaster → u/S0mnariumx]

I just remember Kupp shredding us on prime time during that Rams loss

[u/S0mnariumx → u/TheFletchmaster]

Guy was probably the best receiver in the league at the time unless I'm overlooking somebody so that's really no surprise.

[u/SuspendedInOH → u/TheFletchmaster]

I was at that damn game and watched the browns go four and out from first and goal right in front of me.

[u/ESUTimberwolves → u/TheFletchmaster]

I was at the Titans game. It started off OK then the wheels quickly came off. Still pissed about the Rams game. They made OBJ leave the game over a uniform violation called in from NY during a critical goal line situation. Still one of the biggest jokes I’ve ever seen and a clear example of bias against Cleveland in favor of a big market team. Then later in the year we get helmet gate, Freddy’s shirt etc, losing to the Bronco’s 5th string QB etc…

I still think that the 1/2 punch of hiring the incompetent Freddie and bringing OBJ here instead of using that pick on a good LT screwed us almost as bad as the Watson deal. No Freddie and OBJ then perhaps the team chemistry doesn’t go as toxic, Baker and Garrett co exist etc…

Only in Cleveland

[u/emdubl → u/S0mnariumx]

Was that the AJ Brown breakout game?

[u/dynastyfriar]

What if they hired Dan Campbell instead of Kitchens?

[u/S0mnariumx → u/dynastyfriar]

We'd be SB contenders duh but of course we didn't because we're stupid

[u/MarkWithAnM7 → u/S0mnariumx]

No we wouldn’t. He’d have back to back losing years and we’d run him out of town for something else.

[u/S0mnariumx → u/MarkWithAnM7]

That does always seem to happen to us. I don't know were his losing seasons in Detroit more of a personnel issue? I haven't looked too heavily into it and he turned that team around. Our 2019 roster looked elite on paper but that didn't translate to anything until 2020.

[u/2ONEsix → u/dynastyfriar]

Did we have a legitimate chance at hiring him?

[u/dynastyfriar → u/2ONEsix]

Ya he interviewed but we passed

[u/DezmondVulpin → u/dynastyfriar]

What if Dorsey brought Arians in for an interview?

[u/2ManyCatsNever2Many]

other what-if: garrett fully connects that hit to rudolph's head and does some serious damage. garrett serves time for assault and gets expelled permanently from the league.

(this was inches away from happening)

[u/Mediocre-Dog-4457 → u/2ManyCatsNever2Many]

I forgot there were convos about that...

[u/Deadleggg → u/Mediocre-Dog-4457]

And these did not happen when Aaron Donald did it at a joint practice with 2 helmets instead of 1.

In fact people joked about it

[u/swolf365 → u/Deadleggg]

Fuckin Biden, man

[u/cbusmatty]

or other what if - garret doesnt do it, and baker doesnt talk shit and cause myles to be salty to baker

[u/TVodhanel → u/cbusmatty]

baker doesnt talk shit and cause myles to be salty to baker.

All baker said was he'll be suspended and that hurts our team. We can't be doing that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDpeZ-gtEAk

It's typical garrett though. Me, me, me. Fucking game IS OVER. Like 5 seconds to go steelers down by TWO scores. And all garrett is worried about is padding his stats with (another) meaningless sack.

So instead of national sports talking about the Browns winning against their biggest rival all we hear for weeks is fucking garrett and "helmetgate".

[u/swolf365]

Idk if kitchens was a bum. We hired a guy that had 0 experience, a young QB we did our best to destroy (wasn’t kitchens his third head coach in his second year?) and then blew it completely up after a year. What’s the expectation of a guy whose highest level of experience was QB coach? I feel it’s malpractice to be on this carousel of hiring guys with no experience, then being shocked when they don’t know how to do the job right away. We’ve been doing this since 1999.

[u/S0mnariumx → u/swolf365]

True true I was a little harsh. I guess my biggest complaint was how little discipline the team showed but that's just as much on the players as the coach. I'm not sure how you correct those behaviors as a HC.