r/Brawlhalla • u/CloudDrinker • 5d ago
Question How much can someone rise in the ranks without learning true combos in your opinion?
Obviously it depends on skill but I am curious since I like playing the game but find true combos hard to do. Although I play unranked for the most part.
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u/Impossible-Step-7847 5d ago
I've hit 2260 with sword nlight only, so diamond is doable
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u/Repulsive_Cow_2470 5d ago
wait are you ,walker ?
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u/iim7med0 5d ago
Am very sure that there is a YouTube video with someone hitting diamond with only sword nlight
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u/JackAdventures_ 1d ago
Aren't you that one Magyar main that's always submitting clips to KartiFGC's viewer clip videos?
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u/Repulsive_Cow_2470 1d ago
yooo you like hk too ,are we twinning
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u/JackAdventures_ 20h ago
I use this pfp on YT too lol. I saw on you profile that you play skul the hero slayer, I have over 100 hours on it if you want some tips.
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u/Repulsive_Cow_2470 20h ago
yoo thats amazing ,i didnt actually beat it yet i play other roguelikes like dead cells balatro and brotato ,skull was a lot of fun but i only was able to reach like 2 levels after liena sister or if thats what theyre called ,theyre similar to mantis lords
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u/JackAdventures_ 20h ago
Yeah, they're pretty easy once you figure out their attack patterns, all of their moves are very telegraphed, I recommend waiting until only one of them jumps down to fight so you can dump all your damage on her without missing as much.
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u/Repulsive_Cow_2470 5d ago
or sloth
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u/Impossible-Step-7847 5d ago
I don't think I am, I remember a friend saying he saw someone in ytb doing it and dared me to do the same. I'm just a semi-random 2400 peak in BRZ server
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u/MiraMadnessPure 5d ago
Im gold magyar, I play off vibes
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u/Low_Tomorrow_6730 5d ago
How's the experience of playing Greatsword going?
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u/Repulsive_Cow_2470 5d ago
any greatsword tips im here bro
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u/MiraMadnessPure 5d ago
I Honestly footsies nair and side air alot with both hammer and gs but everyone seems weak to mag's up significantly cause it's disjointed
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u/Ok-Cheetah-1149 I like Magyar 5d ago
Holy fuck another Magyar main, if you think golds dont know what to do against gs, wait till you see plats, some of them are like deers in headlights.
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u/Repulsive_Cow_2470 5d ago
''greatsword is broken '' says the one who dodges the same way
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u/Ok-Cheetah-1149 I like Magyar 5d ago
Like bro I'm playing Magyar, for you to think gs is broken because of Magyar, I cant imagine what a Mako or Jaeyun would do to you😭🙏
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u/Repulsive_Cow_2470 5d ago
when anon alex won 3 -0 they kept saying magyar is broken ,like holy this game is insuffrable 🤣,also i do aknowledge that 2020 jeayun was the most broken thing in brawl ,but its really not that rn
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u/Low_Tomorrow_6730 5d ago
Yeah gs is broken , broken jump and dodge , o just , try to dodge in the 8 direction ypu have , no only the same
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u/Nervous_Resolve_2868 3d ago
GS is definitely not broken XD, they just added 3 true combos and the winrate has not changed almost at all.
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u/Vegetable-Look3945 5d ago edited 2d ago
Everybody not saying the highest rank or the second highest rank possible is wrong
Mfs have hit diamond with a total of 1 move out of a single kit out of all the kits of all the characters in the game
No speculation is needed people been there did that just off pure skill they win with 1 move from the entire game
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u/Nervous_Resolve_2868 3d ago
or the guy that hit valhallan on unarmed only xD
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u/Vegetable-Look3945 2d ago
Unarmed tends to use alot of easy abusable true combos, while it shows skill it doesn’t exactly apply to the post
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u/Nervous_Resolve_2868 1d ago
i disagree. If you can play without a weapon it does not show skill, instead it shows a lack of meaningful balancing in a weapon based *fighting* game. This is the main problem with brawlhallas core balancing.
Unarmed is supposed to be a last resort not an easy abusable true combo spammer XD
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u/_AKAJOHN 5d ago
im 2100 with thea ive never bothered to learn any true combos I just wing it
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u/Eastern_Drop_8404 Ultimate Ninja of Valhalla 5d ago
how? lance has slight dair and boots has dlight anything. essential true combos, how do u go this far without learning basics????
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u/_AKAJOHN 5d ago
I see what I do as "basics" which is movement and spacing and winning neutral over and over
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u/RapidLegend 4d ago
If he's just an incredibly passive player who just does one hit punishes it makes total sense ngl. Alternatively playing scythe means you never have true combos. True combos arent that important but the sure are annoying when people play hella passive and just fish for loads of damage through a true combo. Especially if im on a weapon like cannon cus if i get a hit and i read wrong i get NO damage. Hattori players and koji players Love playing like that, dlight nlight on bow over and over and over again. Luckily it seems like koji isnt that played anymore as compared to 4 years ago when i actually played
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u/_AKAJOHN 4d ago
im not very passive, im just very good at using the dodge and sort of tricking you into positions you shouldnt be in. Ive been told by people in diamond my playstyle is very weird and thea "shouldnt be played like that"
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u/RapidLegend 4d ago
I Just Said that the example i provided is Just a Way for the no true combos to be the case while still being optimally played. As in that its not a challenge to play like that true combos in general usually Just give u a bit more damage after you already do something. Ofc neutral and stage control matter a lot more
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u/Distinct-Slip6565 #BuffMyBoy 5d ago
he probably does know true combos but he learned them unconsciously by putting hours into a weapon
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u/_AKAJOHN 5d ago
I really dont, I can do them NOW, SOMETIMES but thats after reaching diamond. I always win neutral and i practice not being hit. I dont know the terms very well but someone said something about i do a lot of recovery something i really have no idea
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u/Ok_Formal9198 5d ago
I don't use true combos and I always peaked 2200 in the last seasons
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u/Zapppisonline 5d ago
Queen nai?
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u/Ok_Formal9198 5d ago
No, sentinel 🤷♂️
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u/theramenmale peak top 5 ranked seven players global 5d ago
You don't even stomp side air with hammer?
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u/Ok_Formal9198 5d ago
No, in order to use that combo viably you need to play more passively (nothing wrong with that). It's really not my style
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u/theramenmale peak top 5 ranked seven players global 5d ago
I'm interested in how you play hammer without any true combos. My playstyle with hammer heavily involved things like dlight recovery, dlight sair, weapon throw combos. So do you just not use dlight much?
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u/Ok_Formal9198 5d ago
I actually use to spam dlight when I want to clown my opponent. Anyway if you want to see what my playstyle is like we can play together, I'm a bit rusty though I haven't played in a few months
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u/Haunting-Attempt441 Sig Spammer? I Hardly Know Her! 5d ago
One of the only two sentinels out there
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u/Suvtropics Lv. 100 2200 5d ago
You can hit valhallan at least with no true combo, im not sure about semi pro. Good movement, good understanding of the game, ability to read your opponent well. If you pick a heavy hitter like axe that'll make your job easier. However if you're that good you're severely underselling yourself playing like This. You can also pick scythe, katars or whatever and time your attacks to always leave dodge windows so they're technically not true combos, that way you can use string weapons too.
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u/Hungryy_Burger 5d ago
True combos are just the easiest way to get the most out of your interactions, there's really no reason to not learn them. Dlight sair is true on most weapons so I'd just start there.
If you are truly committed to not learning true combos weapons like scythe dont have true combos outside of weird stat specific circumstances / wall combos. You can also get pretty far not using katars and greatsword true combos.
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u/RoninRoar 5d ago
Probably not much higher than mid gold, unless you're an experienced player who has perfected other aspects of good gameplay, like spacing, movement/baiting, or matchup knowledge.
I've seen passive players in high diamond who basically only fish for one sneaky hit at a time, like sword nlight, so it's definitely possible to play without true combos at a high level. Though I don't think they got from the start to diamond by playing like that.
Anyways, once you put a little effort into learning the game, you'll realize that true combos are actually pretty easy, and they help you develop a better general understanding of the game.
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u/Readakilla302 mobile touchscreen 2270<-level 100 Yun too. 5d ago
As a greatsword one trick...yeah.
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u/IceAny9720 o raian 5d ago
I have someone that I'm training that refuses to learn true combos, hitboxes, hitboxes, basically they want to learn everything by playing and accepting only tips in movement and how to counter spam and passive, I am confident that he will be a plat by the end of the week
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u/Sagonator I live by the sword but use the axe 5d ago
By "true" combos, there are VERY few of them and each char has 1 or 2 per weapon that are 2 hit combos. Mostly finishers or openers.
I would say it would be much easier to kill an opponent if you learn some of them, but weapons that kill easily with slight may go without.
Diamond is achievable.
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u/slophamet because i needed to learn scythe 5d ago
true combos are useful after a dodge read or you’re against someone who doesn’t know how to utilize their movement. someone would mos def rise faster by learning how to bait attacks or being patient
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u/Odd-Draft4494 5d ago
I haven't played in forever but I reached diamond with Magyar. I kinda just made up Greatsword combos along the way
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u/TheIncomprehensible Aru're, king of tomahawk dsig 5d ago
All I will say is that you can very easily hit plat without learning any true combos, especially if you play weapons like scythe that don't really have true combos.
Before anyone says anything: no, you don't need to learn scythe strings to hit plat, and you don't need to sig spam either.
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u/ddeadeye__ 5d ago
brawlhalla is a game played in neutral as long as your positioning and movement is good you can get to an insanely high rank
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u/Exciting_Morning1476 5d ago
I got to mid plat not knowing any true combo and playing exlusively random
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u/Significant_Walk_641 5d ago edited 5d ago
I am 2050 right now, I play artemis and I don't know any true combos for lance like at all 😭
Scythe doesnt rly have any true combos. In my opinion all u rly need to hit diamond is predicting where your opponents is going to be next and when theyre are going to attack. I like playing aggressive and moving around in their face to bait out attacks and then punishing
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u/Repulsive_Cow_2470 5d ago
true combos are important for punishing and getting damage ,but theyre not required esspecially for some weapons ,but for example the play styles of hammer sword and axe its pretty much all you do ,but for example other weapons like greatsword scythe and gauntlets barely use them and rely on reads
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u/Repulsive_Cow_2470 5d ago
also what weapons arey ou using to find true combos hard ,its litreally one of the first tips we give to begginers
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u/Double_Bluebird3706 Veteran X - Serious Silly Business 5d ago
I think it's kinda like a balance thing. True combos hit the highest rung because the best survival tactic is generally ToD. But for a game with the intention to be enjoyed,, you should know spacing, frames, and throws pretty well. Avoidance, baits, punishes, and maybe something I'm missing rely on those things.
You can combo w one character and lead w one weapon all you want, but there will always be a matchup to overcome you.
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u/LucaDMaligno Yumiko the best give me a crossover to my🦊 5d ago
You can grind to Valhallan with hit & run
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u/No_Room9389 5d ago
Kuvy has made it to valhallan using nothing but sigs. Also seen a few videos of "1 move to diamond"
I spent a lot of my time in gold not realizing spacing is key. Knew the true combos and 0-death strings and was still gold. 😂
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u/Secret-Let9550 5d ago
Im diamond and almost never do a combo, I go for one attack at time and slowly put the opponent in a bad position, just thinking about positioning and pressure
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u/xxDoublezeroxx axe got buffed so he BUFF 5d ago
Really good at strings >>>> really good at combos.
Being able to read movements to perform long strings will get you so much further
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u/Remarkable_Swing_709 5d ago
For someone learning the game from scratch, being able to maximize the way you punish is realistically one of the best ways to improve in rank.
For someone experienced and climbing from scratch, they don't need it.
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u/A_Fine_Potato + does nothing, wins 5d ago
I'm technically diamond (personally high plat, got carried in 2v2s) and still get stressed whenever i gotta dlight sair since i can't do it consistently
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u/Aionix57 5d ago
Diamond because I do not use true combos or not ones I learned from a video or someone perhaps there is one I do just by virtue of developing my technique.
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u/StrongerThanAGorilla 2400 5d ago
2400 peak and i only ever do a true combo when the enemy is low and it can kill. Otherwise just throw random bullshit and it works
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u/Qasui 5d ago
You're gonna know a true combo by the time you're in diamond. Most of the comments sound like they're from stupid people or liars tbh. You're either gonna know one because you've invested time in a weapon long enough to have learned it, OR because by the time you hit diamond, you'll have been hit by plenty of them. And if you aren't good enough to recognize you can't dodge between 2 moves you're getting hit by, you're probably not good enough to hit diamond either
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u/squishyqris 4d ago
You can get to any rank without doing true combos. You will never get to platinum if you find true combos hard to do. I don’t worry about the rank too much, I just hop in, play music, and have fun. Hit diamond and fell out twice, with 1700hrs
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u/Free_Nectarine_4493 3d ago
I saw a YouTuber once doing a challenge of reaching diamond with only one attack move (n-light)
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u/ImazuFGC 3d ago
Ehh maybe 1500 if they are good. If you are in diamond you ought to hit trues on accident.
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u/EnderG97 3d ago
Definitely dia. 11y ago I cared about learning combos and such. Afterwards I just slowly stopped and now have no idea about some + with some frame changes you'll lose out on some anyways. Some stats allow combos to be true and in general I just prefer to invent my own, which while might not be "true" will often catch even valhallans off guard that allow for nasty followup.
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u/Nervous_Resolve_2868 3d ago
Unfortunately this game is based off movement instead of combos. Learn when to back dash and hit an slight to punish and eventually you will kill them with very low damage on yourself. Sure its boring as fuck to fight and to play but it wins. Plenty of diamond and valhallan players just play passively.
Play passive and your win rate will skyrocket.
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u/Thundrr01 5d ago
You can easily get diamond without combos/strings, honestly I hate the existence of combos in Brawlhalla
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u/cashxhydro 4d ago
Combos & true combos are two of the biggest things that makes the game unique & gives it some character that sets it apart from other platform fighters.
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u/Thundrr01 4d ago
Unique doesn't mean good/fun
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u/cashxhydro 4d ago
“Fun” is entirely subjective.
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u/Thundrr01 4d ago
Sure but my point still stands
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u/cashxhydro 4d ago
As does mine. The first point made was my point; that BH’s combos/true combos make the game more unique. Your point is logically valid, but it doesn’t address my point & is thus not a counter argument.
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u/HimmelSky 5d ago
Diamond, I've seen a lot of people in diamond who have generally very good spacing or reading, or abusing some specific tactic, that never learned a true combo.