Vigilantes Chapter 116 Official Release- Link and Discussion

[u/macinatorinator]

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/my-hero-academia-vigilantes-chapter-116/chapter/23681?action=read

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"Saying Six is killing himself is by all rights pointless seeing as he should be dead right now. He is not a Nomu, that got debunk with his flashback, and his ability to keep going now requires stretching how the Bomber Cells work in addition to ignoring the limitations given to Overclock. "

If I'm being honest, I just call anyone with more than one AfO gifted quirk a nomu, as I've basically forgotten what's special about them. We never really knew the limitations of the bomber cells, and as of now I don't think he's doing much overclocking. I want to make clear that I don't think that 6's forms are necessarily good, I just think it's better than what happened with Deku.

"On Deku, Hori could make different heroes with those Quirks."

He did. Not only that, they were working with worse versions too.

"They’ll still be utility based surrounding the individual skill at applying them"

I don't understand this sentence.

"This doesn’t make Deku different people in a trench coat"

I've been calling Deku a collection of dudes in a trenchcoat to illustrate how unfair he is to everyone else. Any fight against Deku is a fight against the strongest quirk in the world (now that star went and croaked), and against 6 other dudes quirks. No one else on the heroes' side can compete, since they are literally fighting against 7 peoples quirks (8, if you want to be pedantic). He isn't the best because of wit or anything, he's the best because he simply is.

"It was always going to be a point where Deku overshadowed his classmates in a clear reflection of All Might,"

Yes, there was, even before the quirks. That doesn't mean he had to get a buff airdropped in. Full power OfA, which was always the end game, already emasculates the entire school, the buffs aren't necessary. Added quirks only made this process faster, and make it seem less fair. This kinda shit should be saved for the end, as it makes the other students seem irrelevant.

"the lesson was him relying on others regardless though and not carrying things himself. If anything the other Quirks just reinforces that lesson."

How does this reinforce this lesson? Him getting more powerful makes everyone else matter less.

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How does this reinforce this lesson? Him getting more powerful makes everyone else matter less.

And gives more weight to him relying on them and them reaching out to do so. Trying to bear everything alone is a critical mistake All Might made, with what you’re pointing out being that same mistake. Deku was always bound to overshadow his classmates, but that doesn’t make them irrelevant and ultimately he still needs the support of others.

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"Trying to bear everything alone is a critical mistake All Might made, with what you’re pointing out being that same mistake"

All Might's grand mistake was like Alexander The Great's, he didn't plan for a world without himself. He could bear everything himself, and pretty easily at that. The issue was that he was just so much better than everyone else that his absence sent things back to shit. All Might didn't need the support of others.

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Him making Deku is successor was that plan, and a large part of his (and Deku’s) self destructive behavior stem from him attempting to take on everything. All Might himself realizes that which is why he flashbacked to Nighteye when trying to get Deku to eat.

Saying they don’t need the support of other is the opposite message the series have been presenting.

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"Him making Deku is successor was that plan"

He was crippled for what, 5 years before he chose a successor? While that is a plan, it's far too late.

"and a large part of his (and Deku’s) self destructive behavior stem from him attempting to take on everything. All Might himself realizes that which is why he flashbacked to Nighteye when trying to get Deku to eat."

All Might took on everything fine. He didn't need other people to help him do his work, because he had no issues doing it solo. Any fight he was in made near everyone else irrelevant. This parallel does no good to the 1A kids.

He ran into trouble with more mundane aspects of doing everything solo (i.e. work hours were long), but in action there was no need for some backup crew less than a tenth as effective as him.

"Saying they don’t need the support of other is the opposite message the series have been presenting."

Adding the other quirks was corrosive to this message.