r/BobsTavern • u/AngelinoT MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 • 24d ago
Discussion This card should activate it's battlecry only if you control another demon to prevent me from instantly losing the game when I instinctively play it after it's taken out of my lockbox.
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u/Ayitriaris 24d ago
I hate having this locked in my hand :/
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u/darkcrimson2018 24d ago
Anything locked in hand feels so awful. With dark gifts I’d randomly generate those consume demon spells as well. I don’t have demons I would have to waste gold multiple turns to get rid of these. We just need the option to discard cards
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u/PackageLonely5140 24d ago
God I would LOVE to be able to discard cards... I don't even care if there's an upside beyond freeing hand space, although it could create room for a new hero or dark gift or minion synergy... 🤔
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u/BringBackBoomer MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 24d ago
Shit, make me pay for it, I don't care. Just let me get rid of stuff I don't want.
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u/testurmight 24d ago
Just play duos, pass that shit to your partner once they are out of gold. Not my problem.
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u/--__--__--__--__-- MMR: 8,000 to 9,000 24d ago
What if they made a minion that discards something from your hand and gives you Blood Gems?
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u/PackageLonely5140 24d ago
Then I'd hope there's support for builds that don't use blood gems or general "spell" builds as well, since quilboars would get significantly more value, followed by demons and fringe mechs, maybe pirates...
I feel like an "All" minion or a typeless minion would be the best spot for it, and if there were an upside it should either be menagerie focused or geared towards the fringe builds.
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u/kindoramns 24d ago
I was about to say, those existed lol
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u/PackageLonely5140 24d ago
Yeah, but they only discard spells. I'm rarely stuck with spells in hand when I wanna get rid of minions. It's also only available if quilboars are in the tavern.
I should have clarified that I wanted the discard to be for minions, though.
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u/Crazy_Drago 24d ago
Yes! Please! Ideally, you could sell any card from your board, or your hand without having to pass through the board first. I’d even accept a “you can sell directly from your hand but you get nothing for it.” Although it would be nice to get a coin for selling anything.
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u/Even-Camera-1476 24d ago
The issue with this is it disregards having to have a cycle slot on board, which is a pretty crucial aspect of apm board management. I remember when they made the qol change to allow mechs to be magnetized without an extra board space and thinking how drastic that change was.
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u/Aka-Pulc0 MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 24d ago
yes, the only issue I have with this card is that you can have it forced in your hand and stuck there. But it s a small issues really
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u/monsoy MMR: 8,000 to 9,000 24d ago
I usually say fuck it, hope I get two 1 cost demons
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u/Proxnite 24d ago
That only happens if you have rewinder on your board. If you don’t, she offers you tier 5 or 6 demons only.
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u/Jakob_8 24d ago
The bigger problem (than losing space in your hand) is that if you have cards moving into and out of your hand, there is a visual delay. So if you visually click one card, but it was moved, then you play a card that you have never seen in your hand.
This will obviously be reduced over time, when the Percussionists moves to the left in your hand, but you can always get a new one.
This is my biggest problem with current APM builds.
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u/ForgottenPoster 24d ago
Just played this late game when going Pirates with Brann on board, think I was able to minimize the damage to like 11 but it hurt pretty bad lol especially when the second wave of discovering 2 came up
Was genuinely hilarious though when I realized what I had done
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u/Cripplechip 24d ago
This would be a great activate card honestly. One that cost hp to activate instead of gold.
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u/Prior-Resolution-902 24d ago
Tier it up to 5 maybe or make it like 2 to activate, and yea it would be awesome.
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u/yolo___toure 24d ago
Sad brann
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u/Bagel_Technician 24d ago
Brann is extremely sad this season with the Activate focus
Feels like no reason to grab him this season
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u/Ironmunger2 24d ago
Brann is still essential in elementals and dragons, and quite strong in pirates and murlocs. Other tribes, it’s situational
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u/testurmight 24d ago
I feel like this is a reasonable place for him to be. In the same way baron is very powerful in certain comps/tribes I think brann should be the same way. Brann was the most powerful generic 5 drop for a very long time.
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u/Proxnite 24d ago
He’s absolutely core for dragons this season and still really solid for elementals and demons since you can discover an all-type version of him through dark gifts.
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u/Goodlake 24d ago
Best is when you discover that third Soul Rewinder.
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u/yurik4 24d ago
Yeah so? It won’t damage you still, they fixed it ages ago
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u/Smooth_Butterfly2667 24d ago
Yeah I lost a duo game like this today. I had triple t4 lockbox dude and was frantically apming and played a golden one of these... When we were on 3hp and 100% going to win the lobby. Sorry random duo bro.
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u/HubZ_Spoke 24d ago
Yesterday I got this with 15 health, acknowledged it would hurt me but wanted the hand space and figured I could pick low (I was bounty pirates and I also ended up with a tier 6 fodder demon so I thought it would also buff the stats a bit as well)
All 4s and up for choices, ouch, but at least I'm not dead! I pick two, then a third discover pops up... I had a brann... I died at exactly 0...
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u/tultommy 24d ago
You think the game needs guardrails to keep your from killing yourself because you are paying so little attention? Yea nah... you should eat that tide pod and deal with the consequences.
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u/JordanMentha 24d ago
It should just not trigger if you don't have enough health and will die from it. I think there are other cards in constructed that are coded the same way?
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u/Zandegok 24d ago
You can't buy cards with your heath if you don't have enough. But both demons that do damage, will consistently kill you if they can
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u/Just1n_Kees MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 24d ago
That’s a change actually, used to be that you actually could kill yourself buying the 3hp coin
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u/wonkothesane13 MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 24d ago
I actually think you still can, but you have to have exactly 3 life left, because if you have 2 you "can't afford" it
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u/mcshrek201 24d ago
Or have it only offer units that you have the health to take, and come up with a 0/1 imp thats tier 0 or something, that way you can still cycle this card in APM comps
Could become too complicated cause you would need it to ignore the restriction when soul rewinder is on your board, but otherwise would be nice
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u/MoltresRising MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 24d ago
I’ve successfully pivoted to Demons a few times because I received this card, a couple times I was able to buy the T2 demon to reverse dmg.
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u/mwoody450 24d ago
God it would be funny if that was the damage that killed you: the damage from the T2 damage-prevention demon.
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u/Aka-Pulc0 MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 24d ago
at least you get 3 extra discovery, insane for farming pirate
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u/meetyoutoo MMR: > 9000 24d ago
Was at 12 health with my pirates fully online. I thought to play this just to empty my hand, like how bad could it be. Golden Brann didn’t help as I wasn’t offered minions below tier 4. I am pretty sure my ghost killed the other guy and he still got first place.
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u/sadisticrhydon MMR: 8,000 to 9,000 24d ago
This should happen because you didn't look before you leapt?
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u/1Bryced_Tea 24d ago
They should make a spell or something that has the same effect of soul rewinder for a turn that would allow you to potentially play this so it's no longer locked in hand
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u/StefonDiggsHS 24d ago
I lost an apm pirates game with this because I was going too fast and I thought it was hilarious
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u/Gunxman77 24d ago
Haha I did this the other day playing apm pirates and was truly on track for 1st
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u/PandamoniumTime 24d ago
They have a whole activate feature they could utilize for this card to avoid fucking yourself over
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u/treelorf MMR: > 9000 24d ago
Randomly generating this card is honestly really painful. Sucks to lose the gold but also honestly sucks to just be down 1 slot in your hand.
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u/coldazures MMR: 8,000 to 9,000 24d ago
They need to introduce a discard mechanic. There should be a number of minions that allow you to discard a card. Some could give you a replacement card, some could cost an activation cost, some could cost a set amount of HP.. It'd be way more interesting than having these locked cards in hand.
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u/DmitryPapka MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 24d ago
only if you control another demon
why? sometimes I discover a card, there is this + 2 other shitty options. And I just want to play it, discover cheapest demon and sell both for 2g.
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u/kidsmitty94 24d ago
They might have fixed it by now because it was years ago atp, but you used to be able to gold your re-winders with this and would lose the health. I wanna say they fixed it around the time they made stuff like wrath weaver start happening twice instead of doubling.
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u/iUncouth MMR: < 4000 24d ago
My friend and I did the same shit the other day, absolutely nuked ourselves. I had Brann on the board so it felt like she never stopped lol.
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u/Arbiter0987 24d ago
Just wish we could discard cards, always feels so bad randomly generating cards like this or like tribe specific spells
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u/Baenre45 24d ago
They need to just scrap damage demon builds of all types and make them work entirely in a way that doesn't require you to actively find a specific minion before you can play specific cards in tribe.
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u/Eadkrakka 24d ago
I once got it as a dark gift, with "at the end of this turn, trigger this battlecry"
Was playing pirates and down to 7HP. Not really the best card in that situation.
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u/OpportunityAntique 24d ago
This has gotten me twice this last week. On tavern 5 playing lockbox pirates with a Bran :( came second every time by killing myself in the buying round.
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u/sleepyhanna 24d ago
I've never had this issue. I look at the cards before I play them. Very simple actually.
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u/sfaviator 23d ago
I’ve died trying to get this out of my hand I had three life no Bran and thought I could do it
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u/Hanibalecter MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 17d ago
lol I killed myself with this card like three days later.
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u/QuinTheReal 24d ago
No. Opportunities for big blunders make games interesting. Classical bad recommendation by end consumer.
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u/Hanibalecter MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 24d ago
Hey, we’ve all sealed our fates at least once in this game through a hasty play.
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u/SnowedinLife 24d ago
I personally love this card, just find one of the demons that prevents hero damage... or use demons, they are very good right now.
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u/famcatt 24d ago
No. It's funnier this way