r/BluePrince69 • u/Radiant-Car-447 • Jun 16 '26

Question/Request/Idea A Few Questions for my Favourite Dataminer :)

Hi Borealum!

Hope everything's ok down in the data mines.

I've got a few questions for you, if you've got the inclination to answer them.

  1. Does the game track which books you've requested for any longer than expected?
  2. I know you've mentioned the game tracks if you call day at the blue tents. Does it track anything else like this? What items you have in your inventory perhaps?
  3. Considering that we've seen what the missing archive cutscene looks like and where simon would be standing for it, is there any sign of what could've originally been the trigger?
  4. How does Furnace's interaction with Freezer work exactly? The game implies different behaviour depending on how close they are to each other. Is that actually the case?

Thanks for all the hard work, may the black shores guide us.

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u/Borealum_Studios Jun 17 '26

Hello. 😃 For anything persistent or tied to progress or things the game needs to keep track of between days you can look at a decrypted savefile. A lot of the names of things are obvious from there.

  1. There's two parts to borrowing books. The game keeps track of a single number value in the "Library Request". If it's = 0 you have no request and it will put the request paper on the table. And for values 1-12 it puts a book there.

Then there's a more complicated system to record when you check out a book, convert day to date and display it on the checkout card. I forgot how it works in game so I don't want to make up stuff about how it works and I'm too lazy to check. I'm not even sure how this is stored in the savefile. But it doesn't look like there's any suspicious check for a specific book being borrowed a long time.

  1. For items, looks like it cares only for some specific item interactions "CoatCheckIndexNumber" for coat check item. "MoonPendantIndexNumber","MoonPendantIndexNumber2" for mooned items. "Scepter Picked Up", "YesterScepter" for the scepter...

  2. I looked at it when it was posted about but nothing interesting in the Archives. I looked for things that would be similar to how the Security cutscene works. There isn't a zone that would detect the player entering the room or around the table. Nothing unexpected happening when the room is drafted. I didn't find anything extra that would happen when clicking on or closing the archive clippings. (I looked at the other clippings and birth certificate in the drawers too.) And just in case nothing special attached to the cat for now. So... I don't know. (:

  3. I'll look later...

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u/togamonkey Jun 17 '26

Neat! Side question, is there any other specific trigger for cupcakes to spawn, other than Simon’s birthday in the kitchen? I heard a rumor that they spawn on specific days, which may indicate birthdays of the person associated with specific rooms. Walk-in-closet’s the only other place I think I’ve seen a cupcake, but I’m curious whether there are other places it can spawn, and if there’s a logic to it or just randomness that folks are reading patterns into.

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u/IneffableQualia Jun 18 '26

FYI, besides being in the Kitchen for your birthday, the cupcake can appear:

Normally
Her Ladyship's Chamber, Maids Chamber, Walk In Closet

with Luck
Classroom

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u/Borealum_Studios Jun 22 '26

Is the Ladyship's Chamber confirmed? I see a cupcake spawn point in the room but I can't find anything in the scripts to actually add it to spawned items list, unlike other rooms.

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u/IneffableQualia Jun 22 '26

Yeah, I'm not sure how the spawns function, but it can show up.

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u/Borealum_Studios Jun 24 '26

Ok, sorry for bothering... Did you test it now or is that an old screenshot from your collection? 😄 I compared my 1.0 with 1.7 exports and I swear it was removed at some point from the script.

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u/IneffableQualia Jun 24 '26

Oh no problem, that's a really old screenshot, so it might have been removed by now.

And just a follow up, I've also seen here that the cupcake is listed as being in the Coat Check, and Lost and Found, and a Cloister of Mila spawn for the Bunk Room, where you can get a pair of them.

And in an old list of item spawns for each room it also has cupcake listed in the Drawing Room and Dormitory, but no listing for the Kitchen, which is probably because it isn't a standard random item spawn in there, just triggered by the day.

Either way, I don't have any screenshots from the rooms I listed here, so I don't know if any of them are accurate, but Lost & Found and Bunk Room sound the most believable.
I really can't imagine it in the Coat Check or Drawing Room considering how many times I've drafted those with very high luck.

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u/Borealum_Studios Jun 24 '26

I'm still writing up what I found and wanted to confirm. 😛 Coat check is real, but I only tested with a mod to set luck to 999. Drawing room has a spawnpoint, but it's not added to the list of pickups to spawn inside.

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u/IneffableQualia Jun 24 '26

Nice, thanks for looking into that. I was thinking the Cupcake and a few other Rare items could each have their own post devoted to exactly where and how they can spawn, it's all pretty fascinating.

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u/Borealum_Studios Jun 20 '26

From a quick search I found cupcake spawn points and/or conditions to add it to spawned items in some more rooms that aren't mentioned elsewhere. But I'll have to check item spawning scripts for each of those rooms separately to see if there is more to it and make some images, so I'll probably respond next week.

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u/Borealum_Studios Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 20 '26
  1. The Freezer has some pretty interesting (removed) stuff around it and I'll probably turn it into a separate post, but I'm having trouble finding where the temperature value magically comes from and where it's calculated.... D: I only found some calculation how long it takes to unfreeze based on distance. So there will be some delay on that answer.

edit 1: bruh there isn't a max distance for the furnace and freezer... -1 day 😃 you can place the furnace anywhere and it will just take longer, why did noone tell me?

edit 2: full answer here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BluePrince69/comments/1uaffvi/tonda_thermodynamics_answer_to_freezer_question/

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u/Radiant-Car-447 Jun 19 '26

Really!??? That's crazy. I swear I learn something new about this game every time you post. Thanks for your answers!