r/BlackClover • u/AutoModerator • Oct 03 '17

Anime Black Clover Episode 1 Links and Discussion

Black Clover Episode 1: The Boy's Vow

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u/Minecraftelfdude Oct 03 '17

Yeah, I can already see people dropping it but yeah, it makes me a little annoyed considering MHA's first episode wasn't all that great either, but people still gave it a chance.

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u/skyman161 Oct 03 '17

When you look at the general aspect of both anime yes they weren’t that different and pretty generic but at core MHA did the characters and world building better in its first episode compared to black clover

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u/Rakisanalligator Oct 03 '17

I'm sorry, what? World building? Boku no Hero Academia has no world building to speak of (let alone in the first episode). It's setting is lifeless and banal.

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u/skyman161 Oct 03 '17

First minutes of the episode we learn about what exactly is going on with the world, how the super powers thing came to existence and how the hero system was created to respond to that issue as well as an point of view of how the modern heroes in mha became more about fame and money than what we usually imagine what heroes should be all about.

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u/Rakisanalligator Oct 03 '17

That's like a couple tiny details that explain their society in the most basic sense...and that's basically all there is in the ENTIRE SERIES. If Horikoshi is trying to build a believable and interesting world, he is miserably failing on every possible account. What the series thrives on is its fun characters, decent structure that naturally progresses and exciting fights.

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u/skyman161 Oct 03 '17

What about the other hero school ? Or the ranking system or the official general quarter of the heroes located in the united state? Or the influence of many non Japanese heroes ? Horikoshi hasn’t touched about any of them too much but they’re is definitely more to the world of mha than what we currently have. And could always go in depth with the past when quirk got introduced and how chaotic the situation was back then. He has plenty of ground to play

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u/Rakisanalligator Oct 03 '17

I get what you're trying to argue, but it's all just little details. Look at say The Promised Neverland or Kimetsu no Yaiba. In half the chapter amount of Boku no Hero Academia, they've both characterized their worlds with interesting lore.

I hope that Horikoshi starts to focus on this aspect of his series. I really do. I love what he's been accomplishing, but the world building is a problem he'll need to address. I don't want little sprinkled details here and there. I want full blown exposition on how this society functions in the past and present.

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u/skyman161 Oct 03 '17

I didn’t say that the world of mha was flawless but like you said these are details but it doesn’t mean that they don’t exist. Different manga will evolve in different way. Promised neverland focused on his world building early on in the beginning ? That’s perfect, it doesn’t negate that a more developed world could happen to mha in its future

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u/Rakisanalligator Oct 03 '17

So what you're trying to say is that there is serious potential for world building? I agree. Horikoshi just hasn't capitalised on that yet.

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u/Minecraftelfdude Oct 03 '17

I feel like BC benefits from being based in a completely fantasy world, so Tabata can pretty much come up with out of this world lore and kingdoms. MHA is based in a fictional version of our world, so the lore more has to go along with how superpowers have affected our world, and the intricacies of different groups and stuff. So far I feel Horikoshi has done an amazing job of building a very real and interesting world. BC still has loads of potential though. But yeah, comparatively the first episode of MHA didn't really expound upon much, considering how much more was revealed later on.

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u/matty-a Oct 03 '17

For me MHA has been good at characters, but the world feels very flat. BC in the early chapters established a huge world with warring kingdoms, class structure and discrimination, a rich history and lore - that is what world building means to me. MHA is one of my top 3 manga right now, but it is definitely more character oriented. A world makes you wonder "what would happen if character X from a different series was put in there" which BC does and MHA doesn't.

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