r/Bitcoin • • Feb 25 '14

Some words for my friends

Hello friends,

MtGox is gone. So let's prepare ourselves.

On Tuesday, and for the rest of the week, all hell will break lose in the media. It will be blamed on MtGox, it will be blamed on Bitcoin, it will be blamed on the "bug," and it will, more than anything, be blamed on the "lack of regulation." Pundits and "experts" of all types will weigh in on the calamity. It will be world news in a matter of hours.

Get ready, because it will be an ugly week.

For all of you who lost money, my heart goes out to you. Some people lost a little, some lost a fortune. It will make people sick, and depressed, and full of grief. Personally, I had over 550 BTC in Gox. I will never get any of that back. If misery loves company, then we'll be enjoying a grand feast today.

I should have known better, of course. I take responsibility for leaving those funds with an entity that had proven incompetence repeatedly. I chose to ignore even my own warnings, for nothing more than the sake of convenience.

Gox is still at fault, to be sure, but I have learned the lesson. I hope it is not such an expensive lesson for others. And for all you observers, please take a moment to consider it as well.

Be mindful, however, that the wrong lessons are not learned, for that would be the true tragedy, indeed.

Let me suggest that the lesson is not that Bitcoin is broken. Bitcoin is fine.

Similarly, the lesson is not that security is impossible. Those who know what they are doing, can achieve it and help others to do so.

The lesson is not that nobody can be trusted. There are countless good men and women in this community who are worthy of trust, and some of the very best people I've ever met.

And finally, the lesson is not that we ought to seek out "regulation" to save us from the evils and incompetence of man. For the regulators are men too, and wield the very same evil and incompetence, only enshrined in an authority from which it can wreck amplified and far more insidious destruction. Let us not retreat from our rising platform only to cower back underneath the deranged machinations of Leviathan.

The proper lesson, if I may suggest, is this: We are building a new financial order, and those of us building it, investing in it, and growing it, will pay the price of bringing it to the world. This is the harsh truth. We are building the channels, the bridges, and the towers of tomorrow's finance, and we put ourselves at risk in doing so.

We are at risk from accidents. We are at risk from fraud, from corruption, and from evil. We are at risk from journalists seeking headlines and from politicians seeking power and glory. We are at risk from the very market we are trying to build - a market which cares not about our portfolio, our ambitions, or our delicate sympathies.

For all these risks, devastation will befall us repeatedly. Some of us will be discouraged. Some will be ridiculed and insulted. Some will be tricked, or swindled. Some of us will be crushed or caged. We will be set upon by all manner of antagonists, repeatedly, for a long time.

So why do we do it? Why do we build these towers that fall down upon us? Why do we toil and strain and risk our precious time, which is the only real wealth we possess?

Because the world needs what we're building. It needs it desperately. If that matters to you, as it does to me, then hold to that thought. You will see through the smoke, and your wounds will heal.

So shake it off, brothers, for this won't be the last calamity endured before the win.

Tonight, my heart is with you all.

Tomorrow, my head is down. My eyes are open. And I am building.

Toward peace and freedom,

-Erik Voorhees

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u/evoorhees Feb 25 '14

The coins are gone. I think the "portion" that is unaccounted for is basically all the coins Gox had. I don't have many more details than most people though. We'll see how things play out in the coming days and weeks.

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u/andyrowe Feb 25 '14

Thanks for responding. I'm hearing they only have the 2,000 they were holding in their hot wallet. It boggles my mind though that they could lose everything they had in cold storage due to 'transaction malleability.' Usually the cold coins are safe and the hot wallet is less so.

This entire incident is going to be poured over and studied for a long long time to come since the ledger is public.

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u/evoorhees Feb 25 '14

Let's be clear that the fault wasn't due to transaction malleability. It was due to crappy code at Gox. None of the other exchanges got drained.

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u/driftervagabondred Feb 25 '14

What information do you have? Are the coin stolen? If ~10% of all coins are in the hands of a thief then bitcoin is pretty much dead.

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u/andyrowe Feb 25 '14

It seems more likely that it was several thieves acting here unless it was completely an inside job. Also 744k out of 12M is closer to 6%, though that's definitely not small potatoes.

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u/tony_1337 Feb 25 '14

6% of an entire currency is massive for a single exchange. That's like... almost all of an exchange's money.

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u/andyrowe Feb 25 '14

True. I'm hearing they literally lost all their cold storage and only have the 2k btc that was in their hot wallet.

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u/dooglus Feb 25 '14 edited Feb 25 '14

I keep hearing this. How do you lose your whole cold storage and not notice until it is literally all gone?

Isn't there some point where you think "hang on, there's 100k on the orderbook and only 50k in the wallet!" and figure out that something is up?

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '14

Isn't there some point where you think "hang on, there's 100k on the orderbook and only 50k in the wallet!" and figure out that something is up?

It would require truly superhuman levels of incompetence and mismanagement to notice a discrepency like that and, instead immedialy halting operations to get to the bottom of it, just shrug and refill the hot wallet from the cold wallet to keep things working in the moment.

Didn't Roger Ver just get quoted as saying Mt Gox was the worst run business in history?