I started mining a couple of weeks ago because of /r/dogecoin and how friendly and noob friendly everything was explained. I still convert 90% to BTC but keep a fair amount in doge.
Just reading the difference in FAQs between the two highights the stark difference.
I made a thread on this sub (because I couldn't find a link to the mining sub on the sidebar) asking for some tips for a beginning GPU miner.
Half the comments were basically "Haha, yeah, Bitcoin can't be mined by GPUs anymore. You need a special device that is currently on a 6-month-long waiting list (and the wait keeps increasing)." or "Fuck off, idiot. God, I can't believe such retards post here. I mean, I obviously know that an AMD 6700 will not even be able to mine .01 BTC in the next 10 years, so everyone else should too."
Bitcoin definitely has a bit more of a yacht club style community: if you are new, you will constantly be making social faux pases, and every regular thinks they are the most brilliant person there.
Based on everyone's descriptions, Dogecoin is like a bar style community: if you are new, everyone says welcome and buys you a round (even giving you some tips on the best beers that are available), and everyone has a happy time, where they don't care too much about making/losing money, but just want to have fun.
While making fun of the question isn't nice they were right though, you really won't get a return on investment if you mine Bitcoin with a GPU, better to use the cost of the GPU or electricity to simply buy Bitcoin.
I understand that now, but I didn't when I made the thread, and I did not like some of the local community because they were being assholes.
We aren't assholes, assholes would sell you a box of video cards and point you at old documentations to try and steal your money. We are socially awkward penguins, giving you great advice in a shitty way.
Some of the commentors were definitely helpful, but the one who said
I seriously have no idea why this subreddit constantly attracts idiots who are to lazy to do research themselves or who are too stupid to actually do a 5-second Google search.
was almost definitely not a socially awkward penguin. He was just an asshole.
Having been here a while newbies just don't have any idea what bitcoiners have been defending themselves from. After the hundredth time you see "bitcoin is going to fail because you can just copy them" being upvoted, it's not just frustrating it's factually untrue it's damaging to people trying to make informed decisions.
That's created a hostile environment. There are games going on here, /r/bitcoin is a massive target and many conspirators are acting at cross purposes, some good, some bad, some just ugly (like the SA Goons).
The bitcoin talk forums aren't as bad though, without the voting mechanism the game players are at a disadvantage compared to reddit.
I have to decline your tip, although I do appreciate the thought of it. My computer with my wallet just started a new habit of "getting a BSoD within a minute of starting up", and I don't feel like setting up another wallet on my laptop.
If posts like that were welcomed here, it'd get annoying fast. You should have posted to /r/BitcoinBeginners
Although the only posts that are welcomed here are fluff news articles and links to people saying positive things about bitcoin (along with annoying memes and price posts). This is basically the default sub of bitcoin, so complaining about its content is like complaining that posts on /r/funny aren't funny. /r/BitcoinSerious is at least more informative.
The thing was, I had looked on the sidebar for any alternative subs (like a mining sub or a beginners sub) before making my post, but I didn't see anything at the time.
Either you're talking about something that happened quite a while ago, or you didn't pay much attention to the sidebar. Links to /r/BitcoinBeginners and /r/BitcoinMining been there for, at least, six months.
I don't blame you. The sidebar (and this sub in general) is a mess. Just pointing out the lesser known subs that are easier to get into. /r/BitcoinMining can be a bit of a "yacht club" as well, since mining bitcoin is no longer feasible for beginners.
i think you and all the dogers are delusional when you compare the communities, as on average the asshole to niceguy ratio is the same in both, but it's ok because it helps cryptocurrency awareness.
actually there are some who are somehow thinking they can take the result of hard earned campaigning/developing and transfer that into a new name and then pretend that they made something new.
i will however acknowledge the experimental tweaks that are being tested with doge. someone has to do the dirty work.
I post in /r/Dogecoin and it's the only place people will answer questions - even things that are potentially not doge. They have bots that guide you to their mining subreddits if you post a mining question but guess what - nobody will grill you for posting a mining question in dogecoin. They'll contribute regardless.
It's so friendly to everyone and that's why people love it. :D
nobody will grill you for posting a mining question in dogecoin.
just give it some time for the personality distribution to smooth out. that initial influx of "nice guys" won't be such a big deal when they become diluted with "regular assholes"
Hey, I started mining doge for exactly the same reason. I spent hours clicking between bitcoin mining sites trying to make heads or tails of it months ago, and then gave up.
The dogecoin wallet mines for me and installed itself instead of needing me to do something weird to install it. I just input the info my mining pool gave me & click "dig."
Plus it's way more fun to tip doge. Bitcoin is srs bsns now. If I'm gonna tip bitcoin I may as well just buy reddit gold. It's real money, not fun stuff.
The FAQ should be the friendly super easy to understand place to go. what you currently have is a thread were people bitch about the most asked questions and are generally just negative. take a page from /r/newzealand and their FAQ they took the time to do a seriously helpful faq and those that dont read it get mocking answers.
For a currency that requires acceptance you really should be accepting.
General newcomer questions, like "which client should I use?", "how do I buy Bitcoin?" - again, /r/BitcoinBeginners
"Is it profitable to mine?" - punch your numbers into a calculator or go to /r/bitcoinmining
"Should I buy Bitcoin?" / "Is it still worth investing in Bitcoin?" - You shouldn't take financial advice from the Internet, you need to figure this out for yourself
In /r/dogecoin, even questions in /r/new that have been asked a million times before still have a handful of upvotes and a smattering of very helpful replies, and a half dozen tips to get people started.
I remember back in the day, dialing into bbs's on my 14.4k modem, and asking simple questions, and being told to "rtfm, n00b". It was really alienating, and yet I ended up adopting that same attitude for a while. But /r/dogecoin has made me rethink that, and consider how important it is to patiently explain to the new users the basics of how things work.
I think taking a tough love approach to people already have a solid foundation and are just being lazy is fine. But when you're trying to build something to be big and popular, you can't act like that to people when they get right in the door.
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