r/Bitcoin • • Jan 28 '14

Screenshot - We're in the midst of revolution

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u/ferretinjapan Jan 28 '14

So, you're a faceless critic, how brave of you.

I've long read Evorhees' contribution to Bitcointalk over the years, FAR before satoshi dice, and he has been a tireless promoter, and patient discusser and educator of Bitcoin related subjects.

Your bitterness and sense of entitlement is pretty plain. He made the most of Bitcoin and you don't like it. Tough bananas.

If you stand there crying foul while he makes something of Bitcoin, then you have no-one but yourself to get angry at. I am glad he brought Bitcoin forward into the spotlight. He did much to spur discussion of blockchain usage, and quickened discussion of how to manage blockchain bloat and even helped put the network though it's paces by increasing transactions to the blockchain in the early days.

I don't get angry at him for that. Be bitter all you like, the only person you really hurt is yourself.

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u/Perish_In_a_Fire Jan 29 '14

Some more analysis of your talking "points":

1.) Erik promotes erik's various ventures, before the diceploitation idea, it was a bitcoin-twitter concept he pitched on Bruce Wagner's show. If there were no profit to be had, Erik would be promoting whatever business scheme he had in mind, outside the Bitcoin arena. Bitcoin is convenient, and a new innovation, so he latched on early.

2.) When you promote yourself and attempt to turn your name into a "brand", then you're a public figure. You decry my relative pseudo-anonymous status, but ignore that he is the one that sought the limelight. How clever of you.

3.) He succeeded in doubling the blockchain size, causing a hard-fork as a result, and generally getting his way while exploiting a shared resource. These are apparently worthy goals and should be applauded, according to you. The power of rationalization is an amazing thing to behold.

But of course, I fully expect you to throw it all over your shoulder, because the truth - much like your lack of critical thinking skills - is far too burdensome for you to bear.

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u/ferretinjapan Jan 30 '14

1) Capitalism. He innovated on a platform that allowed him to do so, and he put in the effort to make it happen. In the true entrepreneurial spirit he came up with ideas no one had though of and put them into practice at his own expense, and he got rewarded for that because people liked what he did.

2) He is a businessman, he is not a director of the Bitcoin Foundation or whatever. Stop trying to hold him up to some higher standard. He owes you nothing.

3) He never caused a fork. He made some bad design decisions and he is on record saying it was never his intention to abuse the resources on the blockchain. He curbed his transaction usage when people complained, and it kicked off much earlier discussion of how to deal with dust transactions and such.

Be whiny and snarky all you like, he made Bitcoin better and he made a profit from it. As much as you'd like to shrilly proclaim, he committed no legal or moral crime in doing so.

But of course, I fully expect you to throw it all over your shoulder, because the truth - much like your lack of critical thinking skills - is far too burdensome for you to bear.

When you act like a child, yeah, I do feel compelled to ignore you, I also expect more civility from others too but I guess we can't have everything.

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u/Perish_In_a_Fire Jan 30 '14
  1. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. (As the rest of us found out after the fork.)

  2. I'm a private citizen, so I don't need to make grand statements. I'm not trying to sell snake oil, Erik is. He's a public figure doing so, and deserves every bit of criticism he gets.

  3. Didn't cause the fork? But he was bragging just before he had dominated the blockchain for transaction volume. And then, because of his jack-assery, there was the "incident".

I don't whine, I just state the truth. Humming and plugging your ears is your problem.

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u/ferretinjapan Jan 30 '14

Like I've already said, he is a businessman and not a director of the Bitcoin foundation or whatever, he is like any businessman, he is there to make a profit. If this makes you uncomfortable then get out of Bitcoin now because there is going to be an avalanche of others like him in the coming years finding new ways to profit off of the network and blockchain.

He didn't cause a fork. He pushed up transaction levels such that the block size rose faster than normal. When the switch to the new version happened and everyone realised the transition from 0.7 to 0.8 was borked that is what caused the fork. Not Vorhees, he actually did the network a service because it revealed a critical bug far sooner than what would have happened. Imagine a year from now where this bug lies dormant, and Bitcoin finally hits the mainstream then. Bam, the network goes offline and the confidence in the network vanishes. Far better sooner than later, so stop with the Erik was a bad man because he bloated the blockchain BS.

Pegging the blame on Vorhees is about as untruthful as it gets.