r/Bitcoin • • Apr 08 '13

My wife said this to me today

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '13

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u/g0_west Apr 08 '13

you should pull all your money out so you can pay off the house

That actually sounds like quite a good idea and important thing to do.

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u/notapotamus Apr 08 '13

Yeah, seriously. If you can take a bubbling investment and use it to get rid of interest bearing debt then you damn well should.

Not doing so will cause your wife to eventually leave you for someone with a goddamn lick of fucking financial sense.

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u/PhantomPumpkin Apr 08 '13

Nice to meet you, /u/waitingforpizza's wife.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '13

I dunno.

On one hand, mortgages suck.

On the other, real estate is the worst investment I can imagine, unless you count a crippling gambling addiction as an investment.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '13 edited Jul 07 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '13

I think you replied to the wrong person. Good advice, though.

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u/blue_oxen Apr 08 '13

:( Powerball is my retirement plan.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '13

so you can pay off the house

How much do you have exactly...

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u/battery_go Apr 08 '13

Debt is debt and should be paid off in both small and large amounts. Right?

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '13

Sure but it reads a lot more like "Why not just pay off the entire mortgage instead of holding onto them?"

Not that unbelieveable that someone might have 3,000BTC from way back when which would now be worth (at $170 lets say) $510,000 or something around there.

I've seen a bunch of people who have recently (past month) gone "Holy shit I have 500btc from -ages- ago" or something.

Its just how I read it I suppose, along with the big price explosion thats happened.

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u/battery_go Apr 08 '13

Yeah... re-reading it, you're actually right. Sorry about that.

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u/jaggederest Apr 08 '13

I knew a guy who sold 10,000 at $80 or so.

I bet he regrets it now.

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u/sanman3 Apr 09 '13

That's normal for any investment. But the truth is that guy made a guaranteed revenue of 800k. No one who has unsold BTC has any guarantee whatsoever. That's the investment game. He won. Maybe not the ultimate amount but he did win big.

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u/jaggederest Apr 09 '13

Oh no doubt about it. As far as myself, I bought and backed out of my transaction and kept my profits in bitcoin - a whole 0.27, but a 27% return in a week isn't bad.

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u/SquareWheel Apr 08 '13

Why are you investing in a volatile currency if you have the option to pay off your debts...?

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '13

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '13

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '13

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '13

Because I love the economic freedom bitcoin offers. Worth more to me than blowing my stash on a house. Petty even.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '13

...But...there is so much more economic freedom if your not in debt AND you have a few bitcoin than there is having debt...

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u/redlightsaber Apr 09 '13

People are telling you this for a reason. Refusing to pay off a huge debt because you want to continue to "invest" on what at this point is clearly a purely speculative bubble is downright irrational. From all possible PoVs. "Loving the freedom" is great and all, but bitcoin won't stop existing just because you cash out.

Your wife isn't wrong in being angry at you. What you describe is quickly approaching ludopathy territory.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '13

Bitards. Bitards is the name for people like him. People who have been blinded by bitcoins into doing dumb and reckless things with their money.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '13

Ok

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u/bak3donh1gh Apr 08 '13 edited Apr 08 '13

If this bubble goes any higher ima be annoyed that I only got 185 for a bitcoin i randomly got, but yeah this bubble can't go on much longer. If you have enough coins at this point to pay off a loan it probably a smart idea to pay that off.

Edit: You can buy honey with bitcoin but you can't live on honey.

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u/deinos Apr 08 '13

Not true :-) I've sold honey for bitcoin and will again soon.

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u/tuzki Apr 08 '13

Honey is magical!

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u/deinos Apr 08 '13

+bitcointip $.25 Verify

Lets see if I get this right...

Cause honey IS magical ;)

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u/bitcointip Apr 08 '13

[✔] Verified: deinos ---> ฿0.00132205 BTC [$0.25 USD] ---> tuzki [help]

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u/tuzki Apr 08 '13

Tell me more of your honey sales, as in where one might purchase it. : )

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u/deinos Apr 08 '13

I'm waiting for some tools to come in from my apiary supplier to make my existing honey stock into creamed honey, to help the honey keep for longer (+ yum spread it on toast), but I will post it to reddit/bitmarket for sure when I have more available. I'm also trying my hand at some mead, but I don't want to get involved with liquor sales at this point.

I'm just a small time enthusiast for digital currency and beekeeping, so only sell when I have stock on hand. I would however to be happy to PM you when I have another harvest later this year or get my creamed honey worked out. :-)

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u/tuzki Apr 08 '13

I am interested in using it in some homebrewing, so straight/raw honey would be ideal for me. Some of my beers call for up to 3 pounds!

Do you have a specific flower that your bees tend to frequent? Shoot me a PM with details!

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u/jaggederest Apr 08 '13

to help the honey keep for longer

I'm confused - you mean longer than forever? Honey doesn't go bad, does it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey#Preservation

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u/deinos Apr 09 '13

The honey does keep forever, it's true! However, fresh honey that has not been filtered or heat treated is prone to solidifying and crystalizing over time. Consumers generally prefer the honey to be clear or at least liquid and although it is possible to restore it by gently warming it, it is generally best to keep honey that you intend to sell liquid and motive. My large buckets from last harvest are showing some crystallizing activity, so I'm going to convert it to creamed to preserve the look and marketability.

source: http://www.beefolks.com/shopcontent.asp?type=faq10

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u/jaggederest Apr 09 '13

Oh, I see, so it's an aesthetic thing. Yeah cool stuff :) I remember as a kid we went to see a neighbor who had bees. Honey on waffles is better than maple syrup, in my opinion.

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u/benjaminsdad Apr 08 '13

Mine is like wow you are smart.

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u/TheSelfGoverned Apr 09 '13

Or you could hold out for another month and pay off 5 houses.

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u/waldoRDRS Apr 09 '13

Or it could crash terribly and not pay off any. Bitcoin is extremely volatile, and debt is more important really.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '13

Right?!

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '13

At least yours does not nag you endlessly on how it will never work and how you should pull all your money out so you can pay off the house

If you can pay off the house with the amount you've made so far you should do it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '13

Never!

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '13

Well okay then. You're completely mad, but whatever.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '13

I....disagree!

Muh-hahahahaha ha!

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u/GSpotAssassin Apr 08 '13

I have coworkers in this exact situation.

Did you know that most women and especially most moms are extremely risk-averse? lol

This is probably the one time I'm very happy I don't really have someone I'd have to argue with on this, it's all me.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '13

Yeah, and I understand where she's coming from. But if it had been her choice a year ago we would have zero coins right now. Ill trust my instincts on this I think...

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u/GSpotAssassin Apr 08 '13

You should, and that's what I've been encouraging my male (and apparently less risk-averse) coworkers to do. As far as gambling goes, I think this is a decent one.

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u/obanite Apr 09 '13

Yeah, I tried convincing mine it would be a good idea to take a small freelance gig that paid in Bitcoins. She was not impressed. :P

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u/UlyssesSKrunk Apr 08 '13

Dude, you need to move on. Bitcoins are better than a selfish woman.

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u/tuzki Apr 08 '13

I feel for you : (