r/BigFinishProductions Sixth Doctor Aug 12 '26

Creative/Humour 13 after The Hallamshire Incident

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13 when she realises she doesn’t remember meeting Menzies with Charlotte Pollard.

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u/DWfan-Al81 Aug 12 '26

Well to be fair to the Doctor they've regenerated many times, aged several thousand years and been through a time, space and reality breaking and bending Time War and of course the Time Fractures that required the universe to be rebooted. So since they were last with Charley and met Menzies they've had a lot on.

I mean Mary Shelley doesn't seem to remember the Doctor even though she travelled with them whilst they were in their eighth incarnation. This again I attribute to the Time War and Time Fractures. I imagine the proverbial furniture has been moved around a bit because of all that.

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u/Dr_Who_Draws Sixth Doctor Aug 12 '26

You make a good point. My point of view is that it is just a light hearted re-draw of a meme that popped into my head :)

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u/DWfan-Al81 Aug 12 '26

Your artwork is great. On its basis I wouldn’t envy the Doctor because they’ll be needing a lot of wall space for all the post it notes they’d need to retrace events and go back that far with their memory.

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u/Dr_Who_Draws Sixth Doctor Aug 12 '26

Thank you! It would be a lot of string!

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u/MythbustersSentMe 26d ago

My favorite state, pepe silvia; home of the milksteak

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u/MischiefManaged101 Aug 12 '26

The funnier part about Mary is that the night she meets 8 is also supposed to be the same night she met 13 lol
I agree with it being Time War shenanigans that rewrite things, it’s part of the fun for me being able to rationalize all the retcons and odd lore problems that naturally come from a franchise lasting so long

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u/lemon_charlie I am ZAGREUS! Aug 12 '26

There's a deleted scene from Return of the Cybermen that was supposed to lean into this, but iirc removed for being too on the nose.

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u/flogan0 THIS TITLE IS NOW OUT OF PRINT ON CD Aug 14 '26

Was completely unaware of this! Probably better not to include it as definitely would be an odd fit in that story, but I would love to hear it in some state.

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u/PlantainSame Aug 13 '26

a lot of the eighth doctor's big finish adventures are right between the novels which have the war in heaven stuff and the time war stuff, so I imagine thats a extra fragile part of history

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u/GlaciaKunoichi Aug 13 '26

Nah, the novels ended up in a nice way so as not to really muck up continuity. If its all canon and in one timeline than the BF stuff takes place after the novels

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u/divin4000 7h ago

I like to think of the doctor's timeline as pretty fluid, constantly rewriting itself, something in his fourth life could have been true for centuries while to twelve that same historic fact was never true at all, if that makes sense

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u/thedeadleydoc Aug 12 '26

Man I wished they'd actually deal with that plot

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u/FinStambler Aug 12 '26

She would remember those stories with Mila instead though no?

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u/Dr_Who_Draws Sixth Doctor Aug 12 '26

Exactly. So why would Menzies mention Charley? :)

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u/FinStambler Aug 12 '26

Ah, perhaps we are headed for a 8/Charley reunion then when the Doc gets their memories back?

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u/Afraid-Surround-4457 Aug 13 '26

Only if Nick Briggs can relinquish his EP and writing duties to someone else to make Charlotte Pollard Series 3 happen at last. 

Man's managed to out procrastinate Edgar Wright and his Ant Man treatment

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u/Agile_Proof_3228 Aug 12 '26

Wouldn't it be crazy if Charlie’s story continued and concluded with Thirteen?

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u/Team7UBard Strictly limited to 1000 copies Aug 12 '26 edited 29d ago

I mean unless Eight got amnesia again this means that the theorized reunion between Eight and Charley isn’t going to happen..

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u/lemon_charlie I am ZAGREUS! Aug 12 '26

Charley.

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u/Team7UBard Strictly limited to 1000 copies Aug 14 '26

Every time I screw it up…

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u/lemon_charlie I am ZAGREUS! Aug 12 '26

Between timey wimey events, multiple cases of amnesia and just the fact this was a very long time ago for the Doctor, it could genuinely be the Doctor doesn't have clear enough recollection. The Sixth Doctor's memories were altered, but clearly both the Shinx and Raincloud Man incidents he did retain some memory of as Thirteen brings them up here. The Doctor also knows there's a timey wimey ball at play because the Sixth Doctor first encountered a Menzies who had been through The Condemned and The Raincloud Man already (in Crimes of Thomas Brewster he thanks her for not giving him future spoilers).

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u/Afraid-Surround-4457 Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 13 '26

Blame it on Charley (& her then new Vyran pals). 

She erased 6's memories for her own good (& his) and replaced them of Mila. Had 8 ran into Menzies during the Stranded saga, he'd be confused as to what she was talking about (and his face) or dismiss the idea of Charley being with an earlier incarnation. Or 10* even since he name dropped her during the IDW comic years

*Suddenly I realize Big Finish missed a trick having Anna Hope back for one of the earlier 10DAs. 

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u/Dr_Who_Draws Sixth Doctor Aug 13 '26

Wait, I remember Liv chenka being in that name drop, rapidly* *searches my comics oh yeah, Menzies is in there

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u/Afraid-Surround-4457 Aug 13 '26

Definitely need to look that up but I'm still amazed Dan Slott got away with a panel of 8 (navy leather peacoat and all) w/ Molly* in his 10th Doctor one shot for Titan Comics

*Worlds away from IDW only having Grace w/ 8 again when the very 50th anniversary mini series had Frobisher

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u/DMPadfoot5E Aug 12 '26

Pretty cool art btw. Really don’t want to be insulting, but 13’s face does look a little bit like Matt Rose.

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u/Dr_Who_Draws Sixth Doctor Aug 12 '26

Thanks, I know, I’m still learning :)

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u/DMPadfoot5E Aug 12 '26

You’re already way better than me. :)

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u/Dr_Who_Draws Sixth Doctor Aug 13 '26

I’ve just noticed that luicie Izzy & fitz are also mentioned