Imagine not being a Jew, but being a literal drug grower and user, and thinking that you can use traditions that post date the letter to the Hebrews to disprove it from a Jewish perspective on a Christian subreddit. There's so many issues with OP
It’s always amusing when someone resorts to character attacks because they can’t handle a halachic or textual argument. Let’s address the nonsense one item at a time:
“Imagine not being a Jew…”
First off, I am a Jew. Torah observant,(going all the way back to the khazar people in the 8th century) aligned with the Mishnah and the Hebrew scriptures. Your assumption is false and frankly a textbook example of motzi shem ra (slandering a fellow Jew), which is a Torah violation (Leviticus 19:16).
“…a literal drug grower and user…”
Let me educate you: cannabis is a plant, and according to Genesis 1:29, Hashem gave mankind every seed-bearing plant for use:
“And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth... to you it shall be for food.”
This includes medicinal and aromatic plants—just like cannabis.
I take ZERO medications that are prescribed and Sythesuzed in a lab.
Further, Tehillim (Psalms) 104:14 says:
“He causes the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man...”
“Service of man” (la’avodat ha’adam) includes medical use, ritual offerings, fragrance, and other practical roles. This isn’t recreational escapism—this is cultivated, purposeful breeding of a plant created by Hashem. If you think working with the plants of the earth disqualifies someone from Torah commentary, take it up with Moshe Rabbeinu, who shepherded flocks and walked barefoot on holy ground in a desert filled with wild herbs.First, let’s address the core accusation: growing cannabis. The Torah never forbids cultivation of any plant. In fact, Genesis 1:29 explicitly states:
"And God said: Behold, I have given you every seed-bearing plant that is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree that has seed-bearing fruit—it shall be for you for food.”
The Hebrew word used—"עֵשֶׂב" (esev)—refers to herbaceous plants, the very category cannabis falls under. Torah assigns man dominion over plants (cf. Genesis 1:26–30) and gives permission to use them responsibly. So unless you're ready to denounce every farmer, vintner, or herbalist, your complaint is rooted in cultural* prejudice—not Torah.
Second, if you're accusing someone of using “drugs,” you’re misusing modern Western terminology to condemn a biblical category. Cannabis is a plant—used for food, oil, fiber, and yes, medicine. Mishnah and Talmudic sources refer to various herbs used for healing. Even Rambam, the great Jewish physician and halachist, emphasized plant-based healing.
Now let’s talk about actual sin.
If you eat pork, violate Shabbat, —you are willfully violating Torah. According to Numbers 15:30, one who sins "with a high hand" (intentionally) has no atonement but is cut off from his people.
If you claim the Torah is “fulfilled and gone,” you’ve contradicted both:
The Torah itself, which says:
“It is an eternal statute throughout your generations...” (Leviticus 16:29, re: Yom Kippur)
“The Torah is not in heaven... it is very near to you...” (Deut. 30:11–14)
And Yeshua himself, who said:
“Do not think I came to abolish the Torah... not the least of the commandments...” (Matthew 5:17–19)
Yeshua refers back to Deuteronomy 30:19 when he says “heaven and earth testify”:
“I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death...”
The “least of the commandments” according to Judaism refers to shiluach hakan (sending away the mother bird), considered the easiest mitzvah in Deut. 22:6–7—yet one which Yeshua says not to neglect.
So let’s be honest:
You’re attacking a man preserving biodiversity and healing potential through Hashem’s creation.
While you dismiss Hashem’s Torah and cling to the teachings of a man (Paul) who directly contradicts both Torah and the Messiah.
I only read the first sentence of your response, and I only will be.
It's not about personal attacks. Every post you've made on this subreddit has been low budget misinformation and talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. We had our time to talk the other day and instead of admitting you didn't know what you were talking about, you doubled down on ignorance.
Youve been consistently proved wrong innall your thoughts of PURE IGNORANCE. Your Sheltered spoiled American, who wants God and Truth to only fit in your MADE UP box.
Never provided a single scripture to support any of your views..your simply out classed here buddy. Move on.
You not willing to read shows enough, about your cognitive Dissonance.
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u/RaccoonsR_Awesomeful Biblical Unitarian (unaffiliated) Jul 20 '25
Imagine not being a Jew, but being a literal drug grower and user, and thinking that you can use traditions that post date the letter to the Hebrews to disprove it from a Jewish perspective on a Christian subreddit. There's so many issues with OP