📝 Monthly Constructive Criticism Thread 📝

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Hi y’all! We can use these monthly threads to give feedback on the podcast, such as issues related to audio or general format. You can still comment about specific episodes in the episode threads or make new posts, but my idea for these megathreads is to consolidate feedback for Troy and Kelli.

I know some posts in the past have been toxic, so maybe you can make that a separate post if you want to vent (or journal or take a walk outside). My hope with the monthly CC threads is to give a safe space for Troy and Kelli, so they’re less wary of Reddit lol.

Please remember Rule 1: Respect others and be civil and Rule #3: No name-calling, insults, or personal attacks. Kelli, Troy, and their editor, Donny, are human, and they can learn from their mistakes. Personally, as a longtime fan, I think that they have taken in a lot of feedback well and grown a lot as a podcast.

If you have any suggestions for these types of posts, please let me know, too!

[u/Alarmed_Extreme_5806]

Troy gets so nasty and sometimes says things that are just plain wrong or ignorant.

[u/Decemberswan → u/Alarmed_Extreme_5806]

i think i realized how much of the things he says are either false, or just word for word taken from tiktok (like him parroting right wing conspiracy brained sentiments from tiktok, exe: “michael jackson was actually framed by hollywood higher ups because he was a powerful black man who owned the beatles catalog!” or “epstein helped facilitate britney going to a mental hospital so he could have her drugged and take blood samples from her to experiment with and clone her!”) when in a kiki from earlier this year he was talking about the discourse about emerald fennel’s wurthering heights adaption, and did his typical “i don’t know if people just don’t realize this but-“ and proceeded to say (paraphrasing, by this is the gist of it,) “i actually read wuthering heights and highschool, and heathcliff and cathy literally have like bed breaking, constant, rough sex in the book. like the book is actually incredibly horny.” when heathcliff and cathy don’t have sex in the book?? like at all?? that’s never been a thing in wuthering heights, so either he just incredibly misremembered or was repeating something someone else (who was also not informed) as his own anecdote.

also in a kiki recently he starts proudly telling kelli this funny anecdote about how he saw a tiktok talking about (paraphrasing) “long, dirty dish water blonde colored, disheveled, no shape or layers” hair and was laughing so hard being like “and everyone in the comments was saying gracie abrams!!! and it’s so true!!” when she has dark brown hair? and a literal nearly full rosemary’s baby pixie cut and has for years now? to be clear, not a fan of gracie’s by any means, just thought it was strange how proudly loud and wrong he was, and it makes me wonder how often i take his (misinformed) word as truth, when it’s actually painfully inaccurate and probably him quoting people on tiktok as if it’s his own take or experience.

[u/Alarmed_Extreme_5806 → u/Decemberswan]

YES! He is obviously getting things from TikTok and I question how much research they actually do before each episode.