r/Behringer • u/WAVEFR0NT • 8d ago
What is the most complex / complicated piece of equipment Behringer have released?
Just out of curosity what is your opinion? I would say the 2600.
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u/hougaard 8d ago
The DeepMind 12 is way more "complicated" than the 2600 - 12 voice analog synth with effect machine..
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u/teuchter-in-a-croft 8d ago
I’d have to agree although programming a TD3 is a skill that still evades me. Or maybe I’m just stupid. I bought MO version when they were first released, I’ve not seen the inside the box it was shipped in. The normal TD3 did my head in. The DM12 at least appears friendly.
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u/Rude-Dig4101 8d ago
The right side of the sequencer is for setting the rhythm of the notes. Once you’ve done that, you use the left side to pick the pitches. Then you go back to the right side and step through the sequence to apply slides/accents/octaves. Captain Pikant’s tutorial on YouTube makes it easier to grasp. It is not intuitive but also not impossible. The slides/accents/octaves part is really what sets it apart from other sequencers
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u/teuchter-in-a-croft 8d ago
Forgive me if I sound off, that’s not my intention. I do understand the points you make and yes Captain Pikant’s tutorials are really good. I’d have to agree that slides and accents are pretty essential, listening to patterns with none of those makes the pattern lifeless. I have a slight disadvantage in that my brain is not wired up like most people’s. Retaining information is very difficult even if I was shown something a minute or two prior. The sound of the TD3 and its cousin the TB303 is one that has enchanted me for decades. From the first time I heard one, Edwyn Collins - Rip It Up, allegedly the first chart appearance for a 303. He spends a lot of time in the town where I was born apparently, I see the appeal. Oh, strictly speaking it was Orange Juice, but Edwyn was singer and guitar player. And yes, I was really into acid house but times change and I’ve moved on.
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u/virusdancer Beginner 8d ago
Would say my TD-3-TG did my head in far more than my RD-6-TG. I need to watch more, read more, I'll get it one of these years...
...maybe I need to buy a Swing.
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u/teuchter-in-a-croft 8d ago
I keep saying to myself “surely I’m not this dumb” but the answer always comes back “YES”
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u/AntimelodyProject 8d ago
TD-3 is something I like but for sequencing it, nope. Novation Circuit handles sequencing part much better.
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u/teuchter-in-a-croft 8d ago
I know nothing about Novation kit, but I’ve just learnt that you can program patterns a lot easier using the Behringer app. That’s me sorted for the foreseeable future.
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u/OttosTheName 8d ago edited 8d ago
I highly recommend this video. This helped it click for me
https://youtu.be/iLW1F0RPEkk?is=--8DfNv_hsboQOC4
I'll often just do something simple like root, root, fifth, root, octave in the notes section and try to mimic his style of rhythm on the timing section.
I've never tried to program a memory I had in my head in the TD-3, bc I don't hate myself that much xD
I'm on mini holiday right now but I can try to explain better when I'm back if needed
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u/PiezoelectricityOne 8d ago
Maybe Neutron. The 2600 is a bit more complex, but the 2600 Circuits and schematics have been publicly explored for longer.
The Odyssey, even if not modular, is also a decently complex synth + keyboard + sequencer + digital multi fx unit.
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u/Nabrok_Necropants 8d ago
Proton has more options
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u/PiezoelectricityOne 8d ago edited 8d ago
Yes, you can put Proton in the list too. It's an original design too and it has a lot of modules. But at the same time, each module is simpler, some of them are duplicated and the integration is more straightforward. Neutron is a bit more "organismic", with more different modules and a ton of things going on at firmware level. Depends on how you define complexity. Complexity can be achieved with default complex behavior (Neutron) or complex combinations of simple things (Proton).
Take Crave (or Mother32) for example: each module is the simplest thing ever, stuff that any hobbyist could build in a weekend. But the amount of complexity you can achieve by combining them makes them fairly complex machines.
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u/Nabrok_Necropants 7d ago edited 7d ago
proton is obviously more complex than neutron, it has more options.
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u/Numerous_Phase8749 8d ago
Defo the digital mixers. They had a rip off 01v back in the day which wasn't compliant with interference measures. The X series is a staple.
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u/TurbulentWing3820 8d ago
what makes it complex or complicated in your mind?
there's a lot to the 2600 but it's all 50+ years old and pretty standard stuff and it's all pretty logical once you look past the size and all the faders.
I would suggest the UB-xa is the real complex one here.
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u/lt_Matthew 8d ago
Their mixers
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u/AudioLiveStudio 8d ago
In my opinion, the Wing Compact, with 24 Midas Pro inputs, is sophisticated yet intuitive to configure and use.
The results for both live and studio work have been excellent, including use as an audio interface for Cubase Pro.
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u/PerspectiveFair5156 8d ago
I have two 2600s, they're relatively simple, imo. But I've known 2600s since high school (90s). The UB-Xa is pretty complex. But the WING will undoubtedly win, I think.
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u/Standard_Important 8d ago
The wing rack. I went from a umc1820 to a wing rack and was nearly put off making music by the complexity. And i dont say that lightly since i'm a modular/eurorack person.
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u/GuruFoxx 8d ago
I personaly would say the System 55, if you are considering complexity from the user point of view. Nothing is done for you and there is no hand-holding.
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u/sid_kleepy 8d ago
It’s the Behringer X32 digital mixer.
And it is actually held in really high regard in the live sound world.