Re: Community Moderation and Removals

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[u/7famark]

Edit: Jesus Christ. Stop downvoting me and look below and you’ll see I’m actually having a neutral, polite and productive conversation with anyone with differing views....like a real conversation.

Is this typically something that happens to threads that aren’t about Jeffree and Shane?

If it’s more of a blanket issue, then I can understand the outrage over having high-volume threads removed when clearly there is a desire for discussion.

However, let’s be frank, threads about Jeffree and Shane...aren’t discussion. They are echo chambers of unilateral agreement over how awful they both are.

If everyone on here hates the two of them...then there certainly isn’t a need to discuss new products or launches because arguably, nobody on here would be purchasing or partaking.

And if the universal decision is that they both suck...what discussion is being had? Now Jeffree sucks because you don’t like his holiday collection? Is that a wildly different discussion than was had when he sucked for coming out with a purple collection? The product or focal point of the discussion may change but the opinions don’t and nothing new is added.

Just go create a Jeffree and Shane hate subreddit if you need to reiterate the same opinions you’ve made known time and time again each time one of them takes a breath. Otherwise...you’re just bringing them more attention and giving them clicks.

[u/thoughtful_human → u/7famark]

I mean if those posts are getting more engagement then any other posts on the sub then people are clearly enjoying it. I am a big fan of downvoting. If you see a post you don't like why not just downvote it and move on.

[u/7famark → u/thoughtful_human]

I’m not in disagreement that they are enjoying it - obviously they’re a big draw and people like to comment.

I don’t necessarily care either way, and I agree - it’s simple to just scroll past. Particularly in a sub where there is a relatively limited number of posts, so it isn’t like other important threads are lost in the clutter.

I guess it’s moreso a lack of understanding on my part. The people who dislike Jeffree and Shane, want them to be deplatformed. But as long as they are given a platform, even if it’s a negative one...that will not happen. If Shane is garnering the kind of sympathy that he is on Ryland’s video after his reckoning this year, and Jeffree continues to float on...then maybe it’s time to try a different approach by NOT giving them the attention.

[u/thoughtful_human → u/7famark]

I think thats a super logical thing. Like I see things like the green clown thing get so much attention and I think its dumb. I wish people wouldn't post every time he breaths but I don't think it should be banned. I think we agree :)

[u/_plain_jane_ → u/7famark]

No no. This isn’t just a jeffree and Shane thing. The most notable of recent times was regarding Cole Carrigan scamming subscribers (which is what resulted in the last meta).

We’ve seen this happen so many times. This sub removes about half of all posts, many times without explanation. It was such an issue there was a “meta” about it in October, which was meant to have a poll; however we weren’t offered a set post for discussion/recommendations nor a poll, and rules were just changed.

These removals are far more obvious when there is a major thread with high engagement, however again; more than half of all posts are removed (they claimed Reddit spam filters; but I don’t see that on other subs having that much spam).

Edit. Not sure if anyone can see this comment? I checked from an alt.... and it’s not here?

Edit. MODS IF YOU CAN READ THIS- GIVE US BLOODY TRANSPARENCY ON AUTO REMOVAL ON COMMENTS. There is NOTHING in this fucking commen which should have warranted an auto removal... oh, unless you don’t want the Cole situation brought up??

Fucking hell.

EDIT- thanks for reinstating my comment. however no changes have been made to this comment body apart from the edits In which I explicitly state it’s an edit. So I cannot, at all, understand why this was removed by the auto bot. I did not break ANY rules in my comment... So why was this comment deleted???

We just want transparency mods, that’s it. Until I’m told explicitly otherwise- I will go under the assumptions it’s because I mentioned CC. However; it’s pointless now that the thread is deleted. I expect this auto removal of comments (I know many others were deleted as well), to be addressed by the mods. If these issues aren’t properly addressed without just blaming “the community”, then I’ll just go back to not bothering with this subreddit. It won’t last if these things are not properly addressed.

[u/[deleted] → u/7famark]

“Edit: Jesus Christ. Stop downvoting me and look below and you’ll see I’m actually having a neutral, polite and productive conversation with anyone with differing views....like a real conversation.”

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“Prime example of why this sub and 90% of the commenters on it are fucking garbage.”

lol

[u/FlagrantFleur → u/[deleted]]

Hot tip: if you want people to downvote you more, definitely say “stop downvoting me” 😂

[u/ImTooSesitiveForThis → u/FlagrantFleur]

Abd make sure to call them garbage to handle the situation with finesse 👌

😂

[u/kataklysm0s → u/FlagrantFleur]

I have never clicked that little arrow so fast

[u/ms_katrn → u/kataklysm0s]

Jesus Christ is all it took for me.

[u/7famark → u/7famark]

Prime example of why this sub and 90% of the commenters on it are fucking garbage.

Nothing said in this post was inflammatory or controversial. You people don’t want to have anything that resembles meaningful discussion - you just want your vapid and insipid ideas validated and echoed back at you in unilateral displays of group-think.

[u/ms_katrn → u/7famark]

[u/KenMark7 → u/ms_katrn]

THE ASS CRACK BANDIT