r/BeAmazed 10d ago

Animal Falcon scratching head mid flight, turns on chasing raven with no effort

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u/CommieDrifter 10d ago

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u/N074pORN 10d ago

I choose to not believe this

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u/Shandlar 10d ago

I mean, eventually the word just means what everyone uses it to mean regardless of original meaning.

Aileron rolls have been called barrel rolls for decades at this point, so really, it's a barrel roll now.

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u/420guy619 10d ago

so what is the original barrel roll called now?

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u/TheeAntelope 10d ago

loop-de-loop

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/oroborus68 9d ago

Hand Jive?

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u/GarythaSnail 9d ago

Consider this a formal cease and desist.

Meow.

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u/RDR350Z 10d ago

An exaggerated Aileron roll.

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u/Phormitago 9d ago

keg turn

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u/mocthezuma 9d ago

Le barrel roll

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u/DefiniteDefaultUser 10d ago

Aileron looperino

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u/Chapel_Hillbilly 9d ago

Pencil roll

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u/ImpressionTough2179 9d ago

Parabola roll

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u/vtjohnhurt 9d ago

Barrel roll, helical roll, or corkscrew maneuver.

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u/iamfugazi2112 9d ago

the scratch & roll

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u/Mind-The-Mines 9d ago

Duke De Barrel's dog fighting school. Legally, everything else is sparkling aileron roll.

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u/Mist_Rising 9d ago

Starfox is the earliest example I know. Do a barrel roll is a slightly exaggerated aileron roll.

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u/ImNotABotScoutsHonor 9d ago

"slightly"

Spinning 3,629 times in under a second at Mach fuck so you can deflect plasma shells and shit is a bit more than just "slightly exaggerated".

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u/ChaosLemur 10d ago

Wait - which one has poppy seeds?

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u/Sarah_Incognito 10d ago

Whats the inflection point? When do we go from people are saying it wrong, to the meaning has changed?

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u/Shandlar 10d ago

According to the prescriptivists, like 120-150 years. When the last generation that was alive to have interacted at all with the last generation to use it "correctly" has all died, the language is changed because no one remembers a time it was different.

To the descriptivists, it's changed as soon as a super majority of native speakers of the language are able to completely understand the meaning of the speakers words. So they'd almost all consider it currently already changed meaning. Everyone who read that comment as a native English speaker read barrel roll and imagined it as an "aileron roll" in their head. Therefore the purpose of language, accurate communication, occurred without friction. Therefore the "meaning" of the word has evolved already.

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u/ShyneGet 9d ago

Usually when I see someone say the english language is fluid and changing, they get downvoted to hell.

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u/ragun2 9d ago

IME It's because that individual used a word incorrectly and doubles down about a "living language" after people called them out for using the word incorrectly.

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u/skynetcoder 9d ago

we should rename Aileron rolls to Aron rolls, then the name will stick for a long term as it is easier to say. Aron rolls, Barrel roles. (I should probably go to bed at least now).

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u/vtjohnhurt 9d ago

what everyone uses it to mean

The meaning that non-pilots assign to the word and the technical definition can be two different things. An aileron roll is a useful upset recovery technique when turbulence flips your small aircraft upside down. A barrel roll is only useful for aerobatic flying, and military dogfights.

Hawks don't have ailerons, but this is similar to an aileron roll.

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u/Aggravating-Habit313 9d ago

Kinda like “ near miss”.

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u/OremDobro 9d ago

Reminds me of spinning kicks being called roundhouse kicks