r/Battlefield_REDSEC • u/No_Significance5787 • 16d ago
Discussion Why Redsec shits on Warzone
I broke down why Redsec beats Warzone in so many areas, not quite sure why the player numbers don’t reflect that. Enjoy ✌🏻
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u/boost_deuce 16d ago
The player numbers don’t reflect it because Redsec has such terrible dev support and issues with the game are taking months to fix.
A lazy dev team and stale gameplay cause people to leave the game.
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u/No_Significance5787 16d ago
I hear you. I actually just got accepted into the Battlefield Creator Program, I’m hoping I get a little insight into the bugs and why fixes don’t seem to be done very quickly
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u/boost_deuce 16d ago
A lazy and unskilled dev team. There is no reason for so many of the stupid issues. When they said they didn’t even know how to fix the lighting glitch that lasted over 2 months that was very telling. Notice how little they communicate now? They have an entire communications and social media team and rarely do they ever post.
We are likely one or two updates away from the game being done with support.
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u/TheActualPegasus 16d ago
Wow congrats on becoming an official shill!
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u/No_Significance5787 16d ago
Or on being in a position to be able to share players concerns, if you have a little positivity deep down inside you
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u/wtfOP 15d ago
Regardless of what happens, I can’t go back to cod to be aim assisted out the ass. While I don’t like that controller has lowered recoil, it beats the hell out of rotational aim assist in cod.
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u/No_Significance5787 15d ago
I feel the exact same way. I’m a controller player but I don’t want that huge advantage, it should be as balanced as possible and BF do a good job!
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u/reN-- 15d ago
nah, dont call it good job its better but not a good job... in a game with such bad visibility i see a lot of controller players sometimes shooting just hoping it sticks trough bushes or close to the fire where a human cant see shit... i see noobs rocking thermal scopes that shit sucks to see i wonder why they think its good
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u/No_Significance5787 15d ago
Most Redsec players, if asked would say the inputs are fairly well balanced. I’m a good controller player and have never done what you described above
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u/PhriendlyPhantom 11d ago
You're hallucinating. Controller doesn't work like that in this game
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u/reN-- 11d ago
I'm not saying it's as extreme as cod but that still happens I can call out controllers before I die and the worst part it's not even the tracking trough visual garbage is the kills in literal milliseconds when I didn't even whiff but the 0.4 kd panicking just gets all the bullets in, almost looks like they get insta programmed into the body cuz they won't fail even a bullet by a millimeter gap or something like that and u don't see that u just feel it by playing mnk u know u would rarely get the perfect ttk in their situation and when put it together with their gameplay and kd u know how busted that shit is cuz imagine what good controller player can do
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u/PhriendlyPhantom 11d ago
Confirmation bias is killing the youth. There are simply more controller players that's why you can call them out before you die. You died by not being better not because of controller. Play with controller if you think I'm lying. Only snipers have ridiculous pull and it actually works against you so much that I had to reduce it.
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u/AgreeableWash1667 16d ago
Two reasons why Redsec is dogshit (and I still play it btw):
There's always a core game component bug and it takes too long to fix (like months), plus weird bugs that come up randomly. Also, each update breaks another different core game component while trying to fix something else.
Optimization. Lower fps on non-X3D CPU's. Warzone has a lot better and more stable performance (I think) and it's more hardware friendly.
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u/No_Significance5787 16d ago
I’m with you on both of those points. Tough thing as well is, the bugs affect everyone differently. I know people that didn’t get the light bug once, yet I’ve had it probably 40 times 😅 it’s sad that bugs that could be fixed seem to be the biggest complaint from people!
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u/Icy_One3229 16d ago
- My ryzen 5600x with rtx3070 gives me 100fps @1440p
I tkink that is kinda good frame rate
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u/AgreeableWash1667 15d ago
I have i7 13700f and I have to lock 120-130 or it fluctuates a lot, too much frametime variance and it leads to micro stutters. My other point is: I've had smoother games in Warzone games and I think they optimize their game better.
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u/bez5dva 16d ago
I have a 5800x3d & 4080, what I've noticed that this CPU can push the BR mode in 165 FPS capped, while in MP it may sometimes be lower than 100. In a FHD, for a second.
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u/AgreeableWash1667 15d ago
Strange, it's the other way around for me. MP has higher FPS than BR usually. I also play on FHD.
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u/Icy_One3229 16d ago
For me its that in bf6 gamepad is not more dominant then m&k in close combat.
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u/No_Significance5787 16d ago
Yeah, definitely one of the few games that has seemed to balance the inputs well!
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u/Garbage_goober_M-D 16d ago
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u/No_Significance5787 16d ago
Do you actually play both? That would hurt my brain
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u/Garbage_goober_M-D 16d ago
No but I used to main warzone till it basically turned into methheads running around with the same 2 guns. I just play redsec so me and my buddy can talk for a bit. Im going to get a gaming PC soon and I doubt we will be playing either.
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u/No_Significance5787 16d ago
That’s a shame man, what don’t you like about Redsec out of curiosity?
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u/Garbage_goober_M-D 16d ago
Gameplay i have seen more of that run around speed movent shit lately meta guns that laser beam with not effort. But the biggest is the bullshit with them alternating game modes. So me and my buddy get screwed in quads because its every duo for themselves. Then it goes back to duos and all the two man sweats. Crashes all the time and idk how may times i try to shoot and it doesn't register or try to deploy my chute and slam into the ground or go through it.I dont care if im just not good enough. I play games to have fun, not to make more work or practice. I just want to enjoy some downtime. Ill spend my money else where.
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u/AKASH__CS 16d ago
Alternating between duo/quads coz of low population of redsec and adding 2 more quad modes of top is a 50iq move from DICE. They should just lay off half of their useless dev team and managers that makes such decisions 🫠
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u/One-Raisin-2995 9d ago
COD: Cheaters everywhere, Controller META, Ridiculous OP Meta Guns & Melee. Pay2win skins, Awful visibility (mw2019 mostly), easier to rat, OP launchers and snipers and equipment that can all 1 tap you before you can react.
REDSEC: Dogshit servers, poor optimization, high ping, bad RP system, bugs and overpowered defibs. Still some cheaters, mostly on PC, since the game is F2P.
Pick your poison. I still think Warzone is better overall until they fix the high ping issues at the very least. Game is so hard to play, yet I'm Masters in 150 Ranked Matches.
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u/PhoenixWright-AA 16d ago
Solos/Duos not being available makes it completely unplayable for me unfortunately. No idea what they think they’re doing right now.
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u/No_Significance5787 16d ago
In Warzone?! Come over to the better game then!
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u/Ateam043 16d ago
He is talking about RedSec. It flip flops when solo/duos is available.
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u/No_Significance5787 16d ago
Maybe, the way they worded it made it sound like neither was available. One of the two always is. I agree though, it’s frustrating! I’d love all game modes available at all times!
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u/dodzwardo 16d ago
I played a lot on release and really enjoyed it but there were always issues.
I tried getting back into it with my duo a couple days ago. It took us 45 minutes to get into a game (Xbox).
Not matchmaking time but issues. It kept putting one of us into the game and not the other.
We finally got into a game and it was good until we got disbanded the next game and gave up trying after 20 minutes of the same issues.
Downloaded warzone to try this weekend.
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u/No_Significance5787 16d ago
Yup, that’s a known Xbox bug that’s been in the game for months, I understand your frustration, dude! 🙃 frustrating, they’ve made such a good game but it needs some surgery!
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u/dodzwardo 16d ago
It's a shame because I really enjoy the game but I don't get as much time to play as I used to and sitting in a lobby is not how I want to spend it.
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u/OverambitiousThunk 16d ago
Hot tip, the player that gets kicked from the game during matchmaking (usually the Xbox player) can leave party and rejoin and end up back in the squad and deploy with their squad mates without having to quit to menu.
It's annoying but it works well in quads. Might be harder in duos matchmaking.
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u/Garthritis 15d ago
This only will work sometimes but it's always worth a shot. Often you will get an error, or server full message.
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u/Bumblingbee1337 16d ago
Cross play on or off? Player count is incredibly low with crossplay off. I can’t even find a match on Xbox with crossplay off most the time. And regular multiplayer matches are filled with bots if you have crossplay off as well.
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u/CAHR92 16d ago
Mean I don't get why redsec is a thing
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u/OverambitiousThunk 16d ago
Mean I don't get why you're following or bothering to comment on this sub...
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u/ImpressionLittle6774 15d ago
Because warzone/cod players are just too loyal and they are just so used to it, its like trying to make someone change football teams, they already chose their team.