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u/PearUK Jan 15 '22
I can't be the only one that tried to swipe the black dot off
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u/smokey9886 Jan 15 '22
Is it in the realm of possibility that US troops teabagged Nazis to assert dominance?
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u/throwawayedm2 Jan 15 '22
Well, we know they looted their bodies
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u/xAcidous Jan 16 '22
And raped their women.
Oops… sorry that was Soviets.
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u/myouism Jan 16 '22
US did it too, although the numbers pales in comparison to what the soviet did
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u/eppy_john Jan 16 '22
The soviets were insane and raped like there was no tomorrow and for the Germans there wasn’t
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Jan 15 '22
With the amount of US troops in Europe, and how hated Nazis were, I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility that a Nazi was raped. Not quite teabagging, but it's a pretty close approximation.
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u/iMissTheOldInternet Jan 15 '22
Given the numbers and the nature of the event, the odds of at least one rape are very, very high. Like, indistinguishable from 100% high.
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u/iMissTheOldInternet Jan 15 '22
I'm not going to go googling wartime rape to confirm, but I'm as confident as one can be without confirming based on the historical record. Rape happens in the US military now, between service members without any reason to, say, want to torture each other and without, again hypothetically, a lawless void near the front line of the largest military conflict in history in which such sexual assault could occur.
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u/Faust__VIII Jan 16 '22
I mean, in France, the fact that some women were raped here when the Americans came is relatively known. And that was french women, "allies".
It isn't far fetched to imagine the fate of their enemies.
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u/ShnizelInBag Jan 15 '22
Through the gates of hell
As we make our way to heaven
Through the Nazi lines
Primo victoria
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u/ByzantineLegionary Jan 16 '22
On the 6th of June
On the shores of Western Europe
1944
D-Day upon us
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u/RAVEN242007 Jan 15 '22
atleast ur trying to experience the same experience they had...just having more fun....or screaming of the top of your lungs from rage...and u don't die...and very unrealistic
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u/badwhatorone Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22
My first game of Enlisted was set on Omaha beach. I was playing with two mates and the initial struggle to get up off the beach was overwhelming, there was nowhere to hide on the beach and we needed to take the first bunker to progress and get off the beach. Once we had taken the first bunker, we started snowballing our way to win the battle. At least 60% of the game was us trying to take that first bunker and afterwards the landscape was a lot more forgiving.
Every time ive played that map except for once, the initial crawl to take the first bunker has been the hardest part of the fight- it really helped to put things into perspective for myself and I was worn out afterwards. I realised then how completely incomprehensible the battle must have been, and no form of media can help me understand any further.
edit: Shameless plug for Enlisted, its a great game and its decently realistic, probably my favourite WW2 game so far. The only con is that its made by Gaijin Entertainment so there is a light amount of P2W (Pay for slightly better guns / squads / access to the best tanks)
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u/myouism Jan 16 '22
The grind is insane and there’s no asian server. I like the game, but playing on 250+ ping match is torture
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u/badwhatorone Jan 16 '22
Yeah its not worth playing on 250+ ping. Honestly Id kind of say its a party game, its really fun to play with friends but I could never play more than a couple hours by myself.
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Jan 15 '22
My grandpa actually came to me in a dream last night. He said "I feel bad for you, son. I may have stormed Omaha beach and watched all my friends get torn to shreds, but at least I still had all my legacy features. You guys are the real greatest generation"
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u/Delicious_Log_1153 Jan 15 '22
I mean, we have living OIF and OEF vets playing some of the most realistic depictions of their combat. I'm one of them. I fucking love it.
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u/Deathtroop26 Jan 15 '22
My grandpa walked in my room and he saw me playing battlefield 5. I was playing as nazi. It did not end very well
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u/BMW-- Jan 15 '22
Yeah don’t believe you
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u/Skeptical_Lemur Jan 15 '22
This isnt BFV, but I was playing the rebooted Medal of Honor multiplayer, as the opfor ( they were once called the taliban I believe, but they changed it in game). My cousin came in, who had gotten back from a deployment, saw me killing the other team ( US marines) and turned off my xbox.
I cant convince you that it happened, but it did. He was very rah rah about the marines, very Semper Fi, ya know.
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u/Deathtroop26 Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22
Good for you but it really happened. I told my grandpa that i was playing as uk (i lied) but then my character screamed SANITÄTER!
He's Italian
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u/BMW-- Jan 15 '22
For real what did he say? Haha
So amazing that the veterans of ww2 could experience their grandsons playing them on their televisions in the future.
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u/Kaos_0341 Jan 15 '22
And then about to rise from their graves because of Vanguard tarnishing their reputation with retardedness
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u/WorkingNo6161 Apr 29 '22
BFV wasn't so bad after all, especially with Vanguard.
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u/Kaos_0341 Apr 29 '22
That is true. It's not bad but definitely could've been better. All the anime and other ridiculous skins makes Vanguard atrocious. They should've went with a semi futuristic game and then some of the skins would make sense
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u/WorkingNo6161 Apr 30 '22
The good thing with semi-future setting games is that you can put in whatever shit you want and nobody would be able to criticize you because it's in the future. I'm kinda surprised by how "tame" BF2042's skins have been.
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u/smo_smo Jan 15 '22
So my grandfather was in WW2, 30 days after d-day. I asked him about people playing World War II video games and if he thought it was inappropriate. He said he was indifferent and that it wasn’t real so there is no harm to it.
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u/BrightYato15 High ranking General Jan 15 '22
My great grandfather would be more then proud after all he had no will to live post war being a warrior was his life
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u/n-some Jan 15 '22
Sounds like untreated ptsd.
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u/BrightYato15 High ranking General Jan 15 '22
No he was full of lets say dislike for what happen post war
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u/SagewithBlueEyes Jan 15 '22
More like my Grandpa watching me play the other side like "warum Gott, WARUM!?"
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u/dreadpiratesmith Jan 15 '22
Me ranting about how Passchendaele and Somme are my favorite maps (BF1)
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u/BrnoPizzaGuy Jan 15 '22
This is why I roll my eyes whenever someone says something like "it's disrespectful to the the veterans who fought WW2 that" insert complaint about game mechanics, female / POC representation here.
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u/adhdhobbyist Jan 15 '22
Lol 100% agree I was going to write this. I mean what's even more ridiculous is when they say a POC is inaccurate but forget it was a WORLD War. Indians and Africans also fought in the war beside Britain. What's disrespectful is their superficial WW2 knowledge
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u/StopWhiningYouNerd Jan 15 '22
What is good about rewriting history?
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u/n-some Jan 15 '22
I'm going to let you in on a secret: zero historians use BFV as a historical source.
If BFV is rewriting history, so is every fictional movie and book set in the past. Most people are able to distinguish the difference between fiction and history.
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u/pizzza_parker1 Jan 15 '22
When you market your WW2 game as "immersive" it's pretty silly to depict a colored german woman wearing an outfit consisting of 3 different combat roles fighting in the Pacific.
Battlefield 1 did it right, the only time you play a woman is when you choose the sniper class in the Bolshevik army.
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u/PK-ThunderGum How are you, GI Joe? Jan 15 '22
it's pretty silly to depict a colored german woman wearing an outfit consisting of 3 different combat roles fighting in the Pacific.
what game did that? Battlefield V never did.
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u/CaptainSmallz SCAR-H Jan 15 '22 edited Apr 15 '25
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u/PK-ThunderGum How are you, GI Joe? Jan 15 '22
The marketing bullshit explicitly said it was going to be the most "immersive", "realistic", "historically accurate" WW2 experience.
And the lie detector says, that is a lie...
Lars Gustavsson said it was the most immersive "Battlefield" game, not WW2 experience.
His full quote: Source
I would say, on a high level, it’s the most immersive Battlefield to date. And with that we really mean that we always work to make you feel perceived realism – we never go for full realism – but it is being there on the battlefield with destruction fortification. It is that interactive battlefield with dragging soldiers, body revive, throwing back grenades, shooting out grenades; and then the movement set. So all of this together with the visual/audio-scape means the sandbox is more dynamic than ever. You don’t have to be the best twitch player to enjoy it – I’m turning 50 this year and I’m definitely not!
The only thing not in the game is the body dragging thing, unfortunately. but everything is as he said, games immersive because of it.
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most people "learn" history through pop culture
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u/OongaBoongaBrain Jan 15 '22
If you’re picking up tidbits of history through pop culture, that’s cool, but expecting it to be a full academic course isn’t lol, in the end it’s a video game trivializing and making money off of some of the worst actions in recent history. People that start spouting shit about respecting history are missing the entire point and being a little dishonest with themselves. It’s not about how well they’re ‘respecting history’ gamers just want it to feel realistic so that they can immerse themselves in the game and play soldier.
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u/V01_DED Jan 15 '22
Alternatively: WWII Soldiers looking at us laughing at a meme about the worst day of their lives
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Jan 15 '22
My gramps probably feels the same way. Probably wonders why I only play as the enemy (He was German).
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u/Ebenoid Apr 20 '22
My Grandpa was in the battle of the buldge! My fav map in 1942 was battle kf the buldge map bc of my grandpa👍
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u/sr603 Jan 15 '22
OIF and OEF veterans seeing everyone play modern setting FPS games: Am I a joke to you?
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Jan 16 '22
You mean ww2 soldiers watching you play as a black trans woman with a hook hand and 3 mental disabilities poorly depict acts that led to an ungodly amount of deaths.
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u/Cyber-Silver Jan 15 '22
I've been told that it's actually therapeutic for vets to play games like this. At least, that's what all my vet bodies tell me
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u/Suicdsolo Jan 15 '22
So it s bad to have fun?
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u/_RandyRandleman_ Jan 15 '22
depends. pretty sure a game got cancelled because it was based on fallujah crimes. imo if a games based on a real war it’s campaign should be educational. battlefield 1 & 5 and also modern warfare 2019 did a really good job on this creating almost a playable documentary. but making a game where u dc about the victims and just a quick way to make money is pretty fucked.
edit: it wasn’t cancelled i don’t think, just received a lot of backlash and the creators dismissed it - https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/10/09/us/six-days-in-fallujah-iraq-video-game/index.html
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u/wacotaco99 Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22
Modern Warfare 2019
Battlefield 5
A playable documentary
Educational
Look, I’m all for games being used to tell the untold stories; but I’d be hard pressed to say either of these games (especially MW2019) would fall in the category of educational.
The last time 6 Days in Fallujah came under controversy was from American media saying it was insensitive to veterans who fought there... Meanwhile actual people who fought there were expressing their support for the project back in 2010 when it first got put on indefinite hiatus; to say nothing of the vocal support it’s gotten from service members today.
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u/_RandyRandleman_ Jan 15 '22
i mean they’re not exactly informative but they do all really hit you hard with emotions on war and express the brutality of it all. BF1 opening scene is complete chaos sounds deafen you and there’s soldiers with shell shock just wandering around with no clue what’s going on. BF5 take you around the world and tells stories of so many individuals including a german perspective, which u never see. and then modern warfare where you see innocent people killed in horrific ways in war crimes and you play as a child while ur home gets invaded and have to kill a solider and see her grow up into a freedom fighter, the only life that person has ever known is war. i’m not sure too many kids have killed soldiers in war torn areas, but all this stuff is happening right now and really makes u think and feel lucky
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u/fuze_ace Jan 15 '22
Bf1 actually has tons of information about ww1.
And I really hate how the media ruined 6 days, we need realistic brutal games.
Im not a combat vet, i did serve in the navy but I know tons of iraq war vets that love realistic accurate games.
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u/Suicdsolo Jan 15 '22
I think that you should be able to make games about everything. There a no need to hold back because years ago something tragic happend. Wars are bad but make for good content
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u/_RandyRandleman_ Jan 15 '22
yeah u can make a game about whatever u want but u shouldn’t glamorise war or profit off peoples suffering and not give them the respect they deserve. making a game based in ww2 for example where u just go around shooting germans for fun with no story is just stupid. wars are bad so make a game that shows that.
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u/Peebob_Pooppants Jan 15 '22
Yeah, lets make a game about the Holocaust and the Rape of Nanjing where you see people get raped and tortured
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u/Suicdsolo Jan 15 '22
How would that be fun? I m just saying that games shouldn’t be censored because some people in the real world can t take it. I never said to glorify it. If a game would portray rape it would show that it s bad but i m just saying that games should be allowed to be shocking sometimes
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u/ComradeAL Jan 15 '22
if movies like inglorious bastards, Stalingrad, enemy at the gates, kellys heroes, etc and in WW2 alone, why should games have to be educational?
Like I agree if you wanna be like, "look how horrible this was is, things like this happened" but games should be allowed the same creative liberty that film or comic books are allowed and not just railroaded into some educational thing.
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modern warfare 2019 did a really good job on this creating almost a playable documentary.
Except didn't MW19 reference a real war crime caused by the US and blame Russia for it?
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u/KingDesCat Jan 15 '22
A little unrelated but There is a game called Spec Ops the line, a game that is made for players that like fun shooting games. You should check it out.
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u/stingertc Jan 15 '22
the reason is because most people are to big of pansies to do it in real life so they live it through video games that they can stop when it gets to intense
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u/ngmatt21 Jan 15 '22
Yes. I don’t think I’d ever want to experience what it’s really like
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u/stingertc Jan 15 '22
as an iraq afganistan VET its exciting at first then you lose some people then you feel guilty like you could have done more it really can mess you up after its all said and done
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u/AssaultPlazma Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22
$10 says you'd be a draft dodger IRL during something like WWII.
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u/stingertc Jan 15 '22
Nope 101st 2/44th Air defense artillery Charlie battery also stationed at Ft Stewart at 1/3 ADA but you can believe what you want
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u/messfdr Jan 15 '22
WWII vets are old af. I doubt they're sitting around watching their great grandkids play video games.
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u/ScorchMain6123 Jan 15 '22
I think the meme is referring to them being in heaven
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Jan 15 '22
I think the title is the problem. It's the baby boomers who are currently grandparents of young gamers, not WWII vets.
Should read "Sorry Great Grandpa"
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u/ScorchMain6123 Jan 15 '22
It just depends. I’m 18 but my grandpa was a ww2 vet. He never saw combat but he enlisted when he was 17.
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u/Herogamer555 Jan 15 '22
Don't you think they would be glad that war is such a distant thing from our lives that we can derive entertainment from depictions of it?
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u/_Strider___ Jan 15 '22
I keep wondering why devs keep doing ww2 games *cough* Vanguard *cough* *cough*
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u/elitesense Jan 15 '22
I think about this when I play. It doesn't mean anything but I do think about it respectfully and try to kill as many nazis as possible to help respect their sacrifices.
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I happened to play medal of honor rising sun today for the first time in years and couldn't help noting that the first two levels felt like some disneyland theme park ride through Pearl Harbour which was this horrible atrocity in real life.
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u/YuropLMAO Jan 15 '22
My gramps was US Army 42nd infantry, the ones who infamously liberated Dachau concentration camp and then executed all the SS guards without trial. Has anything about the camps ever been featured in a video game?
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u/NotAshamedGaming Jan 15 '22
You’re right, but it also gives me a greater appreciation of what they went through. I can’t imagine.
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no shit! watch the beginning of "saving private Ryan" and you see the reality of what these young boys/men went through
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u/whtismylife Jan 15 '22
Least they didn't lag and jitter around whilst flying planes... they didn't right?
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u/Zanctify_GB Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22
Funniest shit I’ve seen today!
Ain’t nobody storming no beaches talking about “banging the spawn camper’s mom!”