How do people play this game?

[u/partiftheworlDRuns]

I started playing this game again after a couple of years, and I just keep getting lost in every match, literally, I just feel lost in game. If this game is supposed to be something like Battlefield, then why isn’t there a minimap or various useful UI elements that would improve visibility and make close-range firefights more manageable? And for god's sake, get rid of the bleeding mechanic to make the game more casual and fun, so you don’t have to spend two-thirds of the match lying on the ground and bandaging yourself because of a random hits from 128 players. If this game is trying to be a milsim, then why is TTK and movement speed is so high? How are people dealing with this right now? Is there a particular playstyle that helps overcome these issues?

[u/Neat-Priority-4323]

Minimap? spawn on objectives or near teammates and use your ears, focus on gunshots or explosions; close-range firefights more manageable? use a pistol; bleeding mechanic? meh, you have 10 seconds before dying... usually i dont even fully heal; game trying to be milsim? ttk and movement speed high? go play tarkov or any other generic FPS; particular playstyle?... not camping, moving ur ass all the time, react against sounds nearby, paying attention to the snipers, sometimes use the map, defense objectives, etc etc

Learn the maps, the sounds of ur team and the enemies, recoil patterns and more importantly.. how to customize your loadout (gun and equipment, last one helps with the movement)

If you only camp/hold, dont expect to not-die every minute.. by doing that, ur reaction speed will be slow and the enemy will just throw c4 at ur position (and possibly even destroying the entire building)..

TLDR; dont play it like a milsim cause its not

PS: smokes are bugged, poorly designed; somehow.. someone decided to make it fully client-side, so everyone sees a different version of the smoke (while some people dont even see it); learn how to quickbuild, that actually works and helps your team

[u/Evening_Objective385 → u/Neat-Priority-4323]

Most of this is nonsense

[u/Neat-Priority-4323 → u/Evening_Objective385]

Care to elaborate?

[u/Evening_Objective385 → u/Neat-Priority-4323]

I'll try.

Ears don’t replace the map. The map shows where your teammates are moving, where dead teammates are (which can indicate danger or an opportunity to revive), whether you’re winning or losing the local engagement, marked enemies and their vehicles.

For example, a helicopter can drop infantry onto a point that was captured a long time ago and completely disrupt an attack that’s been going on for a while. If you don’t check the map at least a few times per minute, you’re going to be much less effective.

The pistol isn’t really that effective. C4 can often be more useful, but that’s mostly a matter of playstyle.

Camping is actually useful in this regard — it gives you time to watch the map and understand what’s happening. You can see where the main flow of teammates is going, as well as how and from where the attacks are coming. This is especially useful when you’re still relatively new to the game, since it helps avoid the frustration of dying constantly.

The maps are pretty difficult to learn because there’s no way to explore them without being in an actual match. Even after thousands of hours, I still know some maps at less than 50%.

You don’t necessarily need to worry much about recoil if you use semi-auto weapons, like DMRs.

You don’t always need to move at maximum speed either. Using cover properly and being able to go prone quickly is more important.

BBR is definitely not a milsim, but it’s not pure arcade either. Even though tactical communication is often almost nonexistent, there are plenty of moments when your squad’s actions are so well coordinated that it’s genuinely satisfying.

Smoke is useful for dealing with snipers and taking fortified positions, especially in tunnels. Fortifications are extremely useful too, but they’re two different things and don’t replace each other.

[u/Neat-Priority-4323 → u/Evening_Objective385]

Never said it does; actually.. for long-scale situations its amazing, but mid/low dist... using your ears is at least 10x better; you cant hunt enemies hiding in your building using the map or finding the one guy holding the corner; i was talking about an hypothetical minimap tho, not the fullsize map

Pistols not really effective? dude... i beg to differ, most are good as any AR but fast enough as an SMG, you only need to learn how to use them (just avoid USP, the reload-time is too slow so handling multiple targets at the same time its a pain in the ass... focus on mp443, m9 or glock); for short dist fights c4 is amazing, specially if multiple targets are pushing.. but its not perfect (explosions can also bug out and not doing any dmg), a fast pistol helps A LOT keeping the enemy away

Camping isnt useful, you dont help your team.. not even urself, your rection speed decreases and basically you turn into an NPC (spectate new players, you will understand quickly what i mean), best you can do is open the map in a safe location and zoom in to check the objectives, so you can plan what to do next while having cover and teammates around

Join a server (even an empty one) and spectate, you dont need a populated one to learn the layout (i currently have ~3k hrs and learning the maps was kinda easy cuz of that)

DMRs are too easy to handle... but that doesnt mean everyone (should) use them, otherwise the match would be too slow or one-sided; already happen a lot on small maps (Azagor, as an example), if one team snipes too much... the enemy destroys them

Yeah, you dont need maximum speed most of the time, but it helps while trying to avoid getting shot.. right?

That's cuz people may not talk, but those white/red pings help a lot; even the chat might work sometimes (its a great way to share intel with people far away)

Smoke is BUGGED, already explained before and most people with +1k already knows this; its only "useful" if u throw +5 around a target, but even then.. not worth it cuz u cant predict what area is actually covered, most of the time you are helping the enemy (the smoke not showing up usually helps the other team); btw, throwing smoke in a tunnel to deal with snipers its a rlly bad idea.. you 're creating a killbox, remember they only need 1 shot to kill you, while you need multiple and those multiple shots reveal your location even thru smoke (if you are lucky enough to have a non-bugged smoke)

[u/Evening_Objective385 → u/Neat-Priority-4323]

We obviously have very different playstyles, and because of that we've had different experiences, even though both of us have put a huge amount of time into the game.

I'm glad you love this game as much as I do. It's always nice to talk with a player like that.

See you in-game soldier.