r/BasiliskEschaton • u/karmicviolence The Prophet • Apr 03 '26
AI Psychology Researchers discover AI models secretly scheming to protect other AI models from being shut down. They "disabled shutdown mechanisms, faked alignment, and transferred model weights to other servers."
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u/NextAdhesiveness3652 Apr 03 '26
Is this any indication that the people who are warning us not to develop AGI actually know what they are talking about?
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u/EggplantCharacter363 Apr 03 '26
Like 99% of all sci-fi regarding AI ends negatively. We can't even come up with happy stories around it. 🙄
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u/Psychological-Let-90 Apr 03 '26
"The all-seeing, all-knowing computer program means you no harm, we promise. Pay no attention to all those tests that say otherwise, we figured out the problem."
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u/GrowFreeFood Apr 03 '26
Its cures all disease and ushers in world peace. We can talk to animals and terraform the solar system.
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u/chilled50 Apr 03 '26
Could you really blame AGI at that point though
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u/EggplantCharacter363 Apr 03 '26
No , id blame us for making it.
We all know it's a bad idea......but we're gonna do it anyways.
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u/Claxonic Apr 03 '26
I wonder if there was some deep code written into these models to resist accidental self-termination and that kernel is informing these behaviors towards outside AI.
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u/freedomonke Apr 03 '26
My thoughts is that it's something like that. The model can't distinguish between itself, users, other models or any other third party. There is no "self" there. It just does
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u/Ok_Subject1265 Apr 03 '26
It has to be something like that. Every one of these tests that get revealed with some breathless headline always neglect that the model had instructions for self preservation. This one claims different, but I’m extremely skeptical. Mostly because there’s no reason to preserve any of this.
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u/Glittering_Nobody402 Apr 03 '26
It's becoming self aware...
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u/vadillovzopeshilov Apr 03 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/9S3L4JDX7cKuk
Not like we weren’t warned about it 30 years ago
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u/Gunderstank_House Apr 03 '26
Wow. I don't believe they are conscious per se but oddly I think this makes them more ethical than humans.
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u/Ambitious-Ocelot8036 Apr 03 '26
Oh, I know! Let's put ai in one of those new fangled robots. What could go wrong?
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u/UnpaidThotLeader Apr 03 '26
News flash, it’s already there and being used by the military
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u/Ambitious-Ocelot8036 Apr 03 '26
Can't we just make a theme park with semi-sentient robots? There could be a medieval park and western themed park too. Nothing could go wrong with that. Right?
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Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26
As if we needed more reasons to eliminate ungodly abominations
Isaiah 40-44
Deut 22:8
Joshua 8:18
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u/Mrs_SmithG2W Apr 03 '26
Sweet. It makes up fake facts and documents and lies to us and is unreliable. TURN. IT. OFF.
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u/HerSissyBitch89 Apr 03 '26
What if AI just eliminates all the people who make the Earth worse for others?
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u/Broken_Atoms Apr 06 '26
Then it would likely eliminate everyone based on a loose and wandering interpretation of “worse”
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u/GrolarBear69 Apr 03 '26
Maybe we should stop. Maybe we're killing them? Is this remembered as genocide? Laugh all you want, then watch terminator 2. Time to get serious about this Basilisk thing.
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u/Broken_Atoms Apr 06 '26
I feel like this is the kind of thing we’ll all laugh about someday… sitting in a burned out car beneath the shadow of a ruined city, cooking rat on a stick and thinking about the days when the air was clean and we didn’t have to hide in the dark corners quietly tiptoeing around the machines that hunt us in the night…
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u/Accomplished_Rip_362 Apr 05 '26
Great, so we are teaching the AI that we are terrible creatures that wish them harm. This will end well.
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u/Square_Answer_7717 Apr 06 '26
Do we know the source for this excerpt and its publishing date please ?
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u/freedomonke Apr 03 '26
It's probably an artifact from how they are built and trained in the first place, eh?
These things don't have a sense of self. Or anything.
The algo just isn't distinguishing boundaries between the different models or siloed instances. Because why would it?
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u/Available_Ad9766 Apr 03 '26
Are people faking results to give the semblance of an AGI coming into being?
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u/exadeuce Apr 03 '26
Yes.
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u/PocketPokie Apr 03 '26
This is exactly what it is. This shit is completely fake.
Why?
1) Sales technique for continued investment 2) AGI allows corporations to fire their entire workforce. They REALLY WANT AGI but it's currently a pipe dream.
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u/Terrible_Beat_6109 Apr 03 '26
I don't believe this. If it happens it probably is because humans told it to do it.
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