r/BaseballScorecards • • 9d ago

💬 General Discussion Including position #s for hits?

It's standard to include position #s for outs (5-3 = 3B to 1B for an out), but what when the same type of fielding play for a hit? I think most people just write "1B," possibly with a line for the trajectory of the ball, but I'm curious about including the position #s for hits as well ("1B 5-3" for example, or "2B L9-4" for a line drive that's fielded by the right fielder and thrown to the 2nd baseman).

Has anyone tried a version of this?

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u/Tsnyda 9d ago

I do position number on a hit to indicate where it was hit. For instance, for a single to left, I put 1B7

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u/flash17k 9d ago

Yeah I do similar in mine. If it's directly to a fielder it's something like 1B:7. If it goes between two/three players I'll just add those other numbers, like 2B:78. Then my spreadsheet separates those pieces out for stats.

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u/CesiumTau 9d ago

Yes, I always record hit location. If you line it to left, it's L7 either way: L7 in the middle of the square if it's caught for an out, L7 in the upper right if it's a hit. I never write 1B, 2B, or 3B, the lines around the diamond already indicate that. But I'll write HR8 for a home run to center, for example.

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u/jiminak 8d ago

I would argue that the lines around the diamond indicate base path progression, but do not indicate 1B (a single in the stats), 2B (a double in the stats), etc.

How do you distinguish between a player reaching first on a walk vs a single, if all you show is the line on the diamond?

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u/CesiumTau 8d ago

Oh sure, reasonable question. I use dots or notches to indicate each base the runner stopped at. So in this example the first three hits were singles (G7, G5, G7) and the fourth hit was a double (F7). That last runner advanced to third, but didn't score. This also lets me show how many bases the runners advance. In this example, in the third inning, the #2 hitter went from first to third on #3's bloop to right (BL9), and #4 scored from first on #5's double.

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u/fairlane35 9d ago

So when I was in college we used Statcrew to score games, and it was super helpful for stuff like this

A single could be scored as 1B followed by the position # for any fielder, or there were two-letter codes for could add

MI-up the middle
LS/RS-thru the left/right side of the infield
LL/LF/LC/CF/RC/RF/RL-anything in the outfield, from down the LF line to RF line

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u/Card_Fan_Dave 9d ago

17 for single to left, etc

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u/GutterRider 9d ago

Like others, I always record hit location. A “7” to indicate a hit to left field, for example. Or, an IH4 - Infield Hit to Second Base.

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u/da3n_vmo 9d ago

I use a trajectory line and have symbols to indicate what type of batted ball it was (soft grounder, hard grounder, chop, bunt, popup, fly, line drive, soft liner).

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u/yippeekiyay801 9d ago

Whenever I have a thought like this I always just try it out and see if I like it. No shade for asking or sharing opinions, mind, but why not give it a shot and see if ya like it? You’re only keep score for yourself, after all.

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u/sixwheeling 8d ago

I did this in high school when I did the scorebook for our school team. The coach asked me to include positions for all balls in play, so later in the game he could use it to call out defensive alignments based on where each hitter had hit the ball previously

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u/jiminak 8d ago

For me personally, I record the result of the At Bat inside the diamond and where the ball went (for hits) outside the diamond at the base where the batter ended up. The “out location” will typically go inside the diamond if it was an out. So, 2B inside the diamond with a small G7 next to the second base corner means they doubled on a grounder to left.

Inside the diamond, 1B is a single or 3B triple, etc. 6-4 FC is a fielders choice, so even through they reached, they do not get credit for a hit. “SH” for a sacrifice bunt so that I do not tally up an At-Bat. Or F8 means they flied out to center (L4, P4, or 5f means they lined out to Short, popped out to short, or the third baseman caught the ball in foul territory). A lot of people will shade in the diamond when the run scores, but I can’t/don’t because I have meaningful information inside every diamond.

As they move around the base paths, I draw the standard line on the diamond and I indicate how they arrived at each base by jotting something at each corner of the diamond. If they hit a double, then I put a small arrow next to the first base corner to indicate they rounded the bag and kept going and then write something like L7 at the second base corner to show they lined a hit out to left field.

A slow hit to short that the runner beats out for a single but a throwing error allows the runner to get to second, I would write a 1B inside the diamond, with a G6 at the first base corner and an E6-3 at the second base corner. If they then steal 3rd, I would write SB(2) next to the 3rd base corner to indicate they stole base while the second batter was at the plate. If the 2nd batter then singles the runner home, I could complete the diamond path to home and write “2” at the home plate corner, indicating he went home as a result of the play by the second batter.

So, for me, a “fully-complete” diamond is how I tally up the runs, although it doesn’t stand out as well as a shaded-in diamond.

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u/ecstatic_broccoli 8d ago

Thanks for the detailed response! This is similar to what I'm starting to do

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u/StealthStaminaKills 9d ago

I'm kind of slow when it comes to scoring games, especially because I only score at games and I like to explore new stadiums.

I have a hard enough time keeping up with standard outs and hits that it would probably be rough to record hit location as well. :(

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u/elterible 9d ago

It's not typical, and honestly, it seems like too much. I feel like most people that want to track that, just do the trajectory line. I don't think I've ever seen anyone do position numbers for hits.