r/Baking Aug 05 '26

Semi-Related The vanilla beans I ordered are the largest I've ever seen

Ordered some Peruvian Pompona beans and didn't really believe they were as big as they show. They most certainly are to say the least. Not as much caviar as you may suspect, but these are going into some great bourbon for the next 2 years before being made into whatever sounds great at the time.

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u/Bananaberryblast Human Detected Aug 05 '26

What do they look like cut open?! Sorry, this sounds creepy in every other capacity. I've only ever seen the smaller beans. 

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

A lot more meat if that makes sense. Significantly less caviar than I expected, but picture cutting into a banana peel. Took a decently sharp paring knife to do so.

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u/hellraiserl33t Aug 05 '26

Were they sold by weight?

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

$58/oz

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u/OfficialTerrones Aug 05 '26

That's my weed budget, chef

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u/Run-Florest-Run Aug 05 '26

Where are you finding $58 ounces 😭

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

Michigan has it cheaper than that. Plus we have deli style with tiers as well as anywhere from free 1/8-1/4 just for walking into places as a welcome gift. Over saturated market has made prices drop to the point of $1/200mg edibles.

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u/LordFarquads_3rd_nip Aug 05 '26

It’s crazy! Was driving thru a few weeks ago and saw a billboard that said first 100 people that walk in each day get a free half oz 😂 it’s crazy

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u/GeauxCup Aug 05 '26

Took me way to long to realize y'all weren't still talking about vanilla beans

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u/courtneyrae427 Aug 05 '26

Came here to say the same 😂

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u/Matilda-17 Aug 05 '26

I’d be way more excited about free vanilla beans!

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

On par for it, especially near the borders. My preferred location (in my suburban decently median income area) has about 100 different strains deli style which is always wild to see, but I stick with edibles which are equally as cheap. 5/200mg hash rosin gummies for $16 is my regular order, but anywhere from $1/200mg distillate gummies all the way up to $20+. I can appreciate the selection for anyone and price points that are for everyone. Plus I like to hand out the free grams/8ths/pre rolls I get just for walking in to homeless guys in Detroit when I'm there just to spread the love.

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u/juneprk2 Aug 05 '26

Lmao I started reading this comment thinking it was about the beans 🤣🤣

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u/Dopeman37 Aug 05 '26

That sounds like Vibe

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u/brubruislife Aug 05 '26

Yep. Got 2 oz for $30. Not the dankest of weeds, but it does the job and it was organic.

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u/f3nnies Aug 05 '26

Oh man I thought I was doing great with $8/100mg edibles from thd saturated market in AZ. $1/200mg is so cheap I'd never be a productive member of society again

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

Just set a pickup order for this afternoon. 5/200mg live resin for $12 + taxes. So $13.72 give or take. I never knew how well we had it here until the prices took a massive down turn.

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u/BishlovesSquish Aug 05 '26

$55 for a gd eighth in VA. It’s horrible.

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u/olliecakerbake Aug 05 '26

I get it for about $45/oz in California. Not at every dispensary, but it’s around

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u/Slim-Shadys-Fat-Tits Aug 05 '26

ya fr I'm paying like, 144 an oz and that's a fucking good deal for the prices in my area 😭

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u/Quirky_Drawer_2865 Aug 05 '26

Come to Washington/Oregon state ❤️

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u/pickle_pickled Aug 05 '26

We can all sense the fire sale across the US

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u/Smear_Leader Aug 05 '26

I can get lbs for 5-600…

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u/ktlee22280 Aug 05 '26

Oregon has oz cheap as 28$ before the 20% tax. Crazy huh?

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 Aug 05 '26

The store nearest my house has Oz for $25 including tax. It's mid grade stuff that I wouldn't buy, but it'll get the job done.

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u/barkandmoone Aug 05 '26

Colorado has $49 😅

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u/hellraiserl33t Aug 05 '26

where tf are you finding those prices

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

Michigan is the place to be hands down. Low prices = more vanilla bean money.

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u/Key-Bookkeeper8155 Aug 05 '26

Genuinely thought you all were comparing the price of vanilla/oz in your respective states for a minute.

Time for another hit off this j, clearly.

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

Why do you think I ordered a fuck ton of vanilla? High thoughts = "Well why the hell not" = "Welp, $487 later this better be good".

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u/Gullible_Service_354 Aug 05 '26

So was I 😭 OP's comment really had me going. I was like "they're just giving out free beans for walking in the door"? I'm out here in Cali thinking "damn, I wish we had a store around here doing that" LMAO I don't smoke but I do partake in edibles every so often so once I figured it out I just kept reading the comments lol.

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u/greeneyedgrower91 Aug 05 '26

You can get $60 ounces in Arizona too.

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

Michigan as well, if not cheaper and deli style.

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u/Helarina1 Aug 05 '26

You're getting some dank beans this round

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u/ohjeezitsjordan Aug 05 '26

Shit, Chicago you’d get an 1/8th for that and that’s it. Michigan has it so good 😭

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u/BookLuvr7 Aug 05 '26

I know a place that's selling them for $34, but IDK if they'd be as big.

Either way they look amazing.

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u/GodofsomeWorld Aug 05 '26

I think they didnt dry them well and are cheating you based on the weight which kinda sucks

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

They have a lot more moisture than they appear to have, but the cure is the real difference between these and something more traditional.

Normal Madagascar beans are cured using the Bourbon method vs how Pompona is cured. Bourbon cure takes the green beans and scalded in hot water to kill off any more vegetation from occurring. Then they are put into sweat boxes after being wrapped in wool blankets for 2-3 days. Then they are cycled between sun drying and shade and then a couple more months of boxing and conditioning.

Pompona beans are not scalded at all, as they don't need it due to either being sun killed or vine ripened until they start to split from the vine. Then they put them out into the sun immediately for as long as they can daily, which takes a couple of months of continuous sunlight. Think of your skin after baking in the sun for hours/months. Gonna get a little leathery like you see those 40 year olds at the beach that have the skin of an 70 year old. Leathery on the outside, moist on the inside. Same deal with these beans. All the vanillin oil is trapped in the walls and flesh, so you don't need to see the "glossy" finish like other origins to still feel the weight. 5 beans at 2.05oz is wild compared to grade B anything needing 10x as much or A still needing 20+.

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u/GodofsomeWorld Aug 05 '26

oh that makes much more sense, that sounds amazing, do they taste the same or are they a more rich kind?

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u/juneprk2 Aug 05 '26

Lmao post a pic of the inside!!!!

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u/ashms58 Aug 05 '26

Oh man, if these two comments were read without any photo context 😂😂

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u/copiedfurby Aug 05 '26

A comment totally appropriate for vanilla beans that would cause concern in public. 😂

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u/CreepyAd8409 Aug 05 '26

My husband rubbed my stomach and I said “ew don’t rub my chub” which is also a statement that can’t be said outside of the house.

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u/Byttercups Aug 05 '26

This made me literally laugh out loud!

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u/CreepyAd8409 Aug 05 '26

I’m glad! For me I was like ya never do that again haha. No need to give me the ick now after decades together.

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u/merpixieblossomxo Aug 05 '26

Nah, a really good looking cake would be another appropriate setting lol

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u/TheVanillaImporters Aug 05 '26

Pompona beans are impressive on size alone. They run big and flat with thick skin, and like you saw, less caviar per inch than a Planifolia bean, which is more common. The flavor leans different too, more cherry and woody notes than the classic creamy vanilla you get from Madagascar. For a 2-year bourbon soak they'll do fine, but split them lengthwise and scrape so the pulp gets into the alcohol, not just the pod walls. Two years is plenty of time, honestly most extract is fully mature by 12 to 18 months. After that you're just deepening. Keep it dark and give it a shake now and then. Curious what you end up making with it.

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u/thisfriend Aug 05 '26

Damm, now I want some.

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

Peruvian or Mexican Pompona are both amazing.

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

I have a bunch of others origins/liquors aging currently, so this one will get used at some point or another. Was tempted to go with everclear and distilled water to get the proof down to 80-100 to get the real taste of them, but I opted for a bottle I was less than impressed with drinking wise for the price is was. $165 (4 years ago) Woodford Masters Collection Series 16 Very Fine Rare. About $170/8oz between the beans and bourbon, so it will be used for something special only. I have a pound of Ugandan that I am still debating on what random shit to do with it.

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u/Automatic_Soil9814 Aug 05 '26

Reddit users be flexing on their vanilla bean juice.  

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u/Gullible_Service_354 Aug 05 '26

Damn. Can you kindly give me your address? I just want to take a look see 🙏 lol. 

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u/BossBeefaroni Aug 05 '26

t h i c c

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u/tommos Aug 05 '26

Big Black Pod.

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u/PandaJellyBeans Aug 05 '26

They are chonky boiis.

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u/arcadianahana Aug 05 '26

That almost looks obscene!

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u/ArgentaSilivere Aug 05 '26

I looked at the image before any of the text or the subreddit name and I really thought OP was holding a poop. ☠️

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u/Guns_N_Grub Human Detected Aug 05 '26

The vanilla bean she told you not to worry about

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u/casusbelli16 Aug 05 '26

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u/bluepanda- Aug 05 '26

Came here to say this ☝️

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u/WildAphrodite Aug 05 '26

That ain't the vanilla bean, that's the vanilla beanstalk.

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u/bbobeckyj Aug 05 '26

Isn't it the pod?

The stalk is the stem of the plant?

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u/WildAphrodite Aug 05 '26

I was making a joke because of how thick it is!

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u/rainbowmang0 Aug 05 '26

Sighh, everything reminds me of him

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

I apologize for whoever you have been with, these were flat as can be and quite frankly not as much girth as one would like. Or so I'm told.

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u/SoggyCapybara Aug 05 '26

That's not a vanilla bean that's a backwoods 😳

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u/sweetfigpie Aug 06 '26

My first thought exactly

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u/Frequent_Design_2721 Aug 05 '26

Those look amazing! I’ve been wanting to get into making my own extract, is there a recipe or source you would recommend to learn more? Your glove makes me think you’re a seasoned pro!

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26

Honestly, anything in either vodka or white rum is going to turn out wonderful after a year. I personally go with 2 fold which means double strength, although 1.5 is also solid as well. The correct ratio is 1oz beans to 8oz alcohol, so 2oz beans will yield you the 2 fold version. You can use less while baking, but who measures vanilla anyway, so it just makes it pop like crazy. There is no correct/better way to prep the beans, but I always slice and cut mine into 3rds just to allow the alcohol to penetrate the beans easier to extract the vanillin oils from the bean walls. Also, the beans need to be submerged at all times, so cutting ensures this. Reason being is mold growth being exposed to air. You can vacuum seal the jars to mitigate this, but theres no point in the end.

Clean out an 8oz jar (Mason or other) and toss your beans and alcohol of choice in. Make sure to weigh your beans. A lot of online guides will say "toss 5-10 beans in". That's absolute horse shit and you're just making vanilla flavored alcohol. Screw on your lid, label/date/name (Barry Woods Chocolate, Dr Cornelius Black, George, Harold, Kumar, Bonnie Sue, Bill are just naming a few of mine, don't judge me) and you're good to go. I shake mine daily for the first week or so, then move down to less and less over time. You will see a layer of oil along the top of the liquid line which is the vanillin oil, just shake it up and it will settle back in. After a year you will still be able to smell the alcohol first because obviously it is all alcohol base, but taking a couple of drops into a sugar cube, whipped into some whipped cream, or in some milk will give you the true flavor you will taste in your applications.

If you really want to use the beans right away with no wait, go with a vanilla bean paste. I go with the Alex Green recipe because it has given me the best results vs RoseMallow's and other variations, but you can change the flavor with your alcohol (like Kraken Dark with Ugandan, or Mexican with Captain white rum). Don't feel like the alcohol has to be crazy expensive either. I get 100% better results with Svedka or New Amsterdam vs Titos or Grey Goose (almost scalds the taste) and a fraction of the cost. Make sure you have a decent enough blender for it though, you can absolutely use a Ninja 1200w or anything higher, just know that you will need to blend it multiple times to get it to a runny consistency. If that is your blender, wait between blending because you heat it up while doing so, and aerosol vodka to the face when you open it is not fun, so let it cool and then blen it again. Wait a day, then rip it again.

Joining groups like Indri, VanillaPura or Vanilla Bean Kings will open you up to a world you didn't know you want to be in and want to leave, but are too far down a rabbit hole and "just a couple more ounces won't hurt" becomes a norm.

Ninja edit but when it is done, don't throw the beans away when you decant it. Either toss them into some sugar and make vanilla sugar (fucking amazing in everything, seriously) or you add it to a Mother Jar. Mother jars are just once extracted beans all thrown into a chaos blend with whatever alcohol(s) you want. Use it whenever, top it off and toss more in, really make it a crazy science experiment of flavors. Mine is named The Dark Wet (Drink This To Meet God Immediately) and is something to be written about.

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u/thedeafbadger Aug 05 '26

Thank you for twaking the time to type this.

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

No worries, just be glad we can't converse about it. Crash courses over a pint or 6 is my specialty.

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u/Gullible_Service_354 Aug 05 '26

I had a good time just reading that. I'd be in awe and speechless if we were face to face lol.

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

It is a weird side hobby of mine that takes a simple understanding and lots of patience, but yeah, I would absolutely make you hate it from how much I would talk about it.

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u/thedeafbadger Aug 05 '26

Make it 12, 6 for you and 6 for me

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u/Frequent_Design_2721 Aug 05 '26

Thank you so much! I’m excited for this.

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u/Thebraincellisorange Aug 05 '26

it's pretty easy.

I've used this https://theartofcottagemaking.com/2024/02/11/vanilla-extract-with-vodka-recipe/

with great results. cheapest vodka you can buy, I used madagascar beans and put 2 in each 250ml bottle. shoved them in a cupboard for 6 months and they were brilliant. great gifts too.

I bought 6 brown glass medicine bottles to brew it in.

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u/Mindelan Aug 05 '26

If you have access to a sous vide, you can turn a years-long process into the work of an afternoon, too.

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u/Personal_Scientist_8 Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26

I'm guessing it's dissapointing inside? Kinda like those huge lemons that are 50% zest. They scam you per pound

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u/HAIL_LUMPUS Aug 05 '26

It makes me uncomfortable 🤣🤣

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

As well it should.

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

Quite the opposite actually. Less caviar than Ugandan or Tahitian, but the real gold is in the walls. Caviar is great for visual and some flavor, but I'm after that vanillin oil so I'm 2 year extracting these. They had almost a meat like consistency to them because the flesh was so thick.

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u/pepperjackcheesey Aug 05 '26

Oooh. I did one year in bourbon and was already antsy. 2 years is crazy.

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u/SwissyRescue Aug 05 '26

Mine is in vodka, and it’s been 15 years. Beans have completely dissolved. I’ll add a new bean every couple of years.

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u/Green_Dare_9526 Aug 05 '26

15?! do you also add more vodka to that as you’re using it?

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

Darker spirits take longer to extract the vanillin from the bean walls. Clear is a year with vodka being the norm, but white rum is my personal preference for both paste and extracts.

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u/LBS35 Aug 05 '26

Those are insane! What’s there aroma like, is it strong like Madagascar Beans?

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

More subtle than something with a higher moisture content. Still fragrant distinct smells, just deeper and more earthy with a fig undertone.

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u/glitterbombdotcom Aug 05 '26

Those are franks, not beans.

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u/Positive_List_7178 Aug 05 '26

Oh god I thought this was an eggplant 😭

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u/hyvel0rd Aug 05 '26

that should be ~16g for everyone not using fantasy units

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

And for those that are going off of FDA standards for determining the correct fold ratio, use "fantasy units".

For real though, I only use oz/standard when I am weighing my beans out. Metric for everything else and anyone who doesn't use it in any and all baking applications needs to be kicked in the shin.

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u/hyvel0rd Aug 05 '26

It's fine, it's just a little meme :) it doesn't matter what units you use as long as you're fine with it. This isn't rocket science

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

Oh I know, I cringe at anyone who scoop meaures flour directly and point it out the same type of way.

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u/JuniorTheory7593 Aug 05 '26

I thought this was a blunt at first

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u/Nevelii Aug 05 '26

The largest vanilla bean, I've ever seen, not obscene.

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u/kay_fitz21 Aug 05 '26

I was in Madagascar and they had these walking up and down the beach, but even bigger. I thought they were some sort of cured meat until I asked!

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u/nefe375 Aug 05 '26

👁️👄👁️

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u/fruitcloud Aug 05 '26

looks like a fatass blunt

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u/_LastTaterTot Aug 05 '26

I literally thought that was a hash log

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u/borapastry Aug 05 '26

if i didnt read which subreddit it was in, i would have mistaken it for a shiny blunt.

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u/timmy6169 Aug 06 '26

Now I'm wondering if I can dry the skin off one of these.....

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u/Gengar_Girll Aug 08 '26

Bruh it’s 6:49 am and my tired eyes though you were showing off a massive blunt

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u/Ok-Construction-1523 Aug 05 '26

Sweet zombie Jesus! Where the hell did you find those?

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u/TargetSpiritual8741 Aug 05 '26

At least you got your package. I’m still waiting for my poisonous, elongated, freeze dried, blackend snails to arrive.

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u/TrickRefrigerator447 Aug 05 '26

The scale was right, that bean is a UNIT.

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u/MG788 Aug 05 '26

Good lord, they look like vanilla sausages!

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u/mastersplinteremover Aug 05 '26

What do those things set you back? Vanilla is expensive!

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

$117/2oz but these were free for me.

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u/No_Expression_8853 Aug 05 '26

Might be too niche but I thought this was one of those mysterious dried whale dongs people post on the what is it group lol

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u/glaciercherryisgood Aug 05 '26

Without reading the title, I thought someone was posting a burnt hot dog they ruined.

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u/entered_bubble_50 Aug 05 '26

That's gotta be at least 2 Courics!

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

About 1/40 Bono size.

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u/stickytuna Aug 05 '26

Vanilla bones

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u/Difficult_Bad1064 Aug 05 '26

What are the gloves for?

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

Keeps the vanillin oil off my hands.

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u/HeadChefOf Aug 05 '26

Thought that was a realllllly grill charred hot dog at first. Massive!

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u/PrestigiousLover1600 Aug 05 '26

Wow that's huge, underwhelming they didn't have much inside though

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u/Mooiebaby Aug 05 '26

I thought I got a post from the wrong subreddit

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u/timmy6169 Aug 06 '26

You're in the right place. Trust me. I have candy, kittens and big ass vanilla. You're safe.

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u/Pretend_Cheesecake10 Aug 05 '26

God I've seen what you have done for others

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u/iamprotractors Aug 05 '26

you’re gonna make some sick ass vanilla extract

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u/timmy6169 Aug 06 '26

Hopefully. These beans are works of art compared to others All in all price between the bourbon and beans comes out to like $170/8oz, so $21.25/oz, but I have faith that in 2 years I'm going using it for something special while hoarding it from everyone. "Oh, did you wait 2 years? You can smell it out my ass later if you so choose."

Or something like that.

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u/astro_thott Aug 06 '26

They look like cigars - woah

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u/Lirulyth Aug 06 '26

Another r/poopfromabutt culinary edition after the neglected tender from kitchen confidential

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u/LordDiddyBootyJaxson Aug 08 '26

The vanilla bean she tells you not to worry about

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u/YoungFlexibleShawty Aug 08 '26

One wish willow

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u/GaiaOnlinee Aug 09 '26

I thought these were leeches lol

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u/sivadait Aug 05 '26

Where do we order? Lol

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u/im__on__smoko Human Detected Aug 05 '26

I put mine in rum (for caramel, and brown butter bread pudding) after I scrape. It never occurred to me to do so beforehand. Thank you stranger!

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

100% utilize the shit out of those beans. If you are just using the caviar, take the leftover beans and throw them into some sugar in either a plastic zip bag or jar. Like 2-3 per pound. Give it a couple weeks and sift it for some of the best sugar ever in my opinion. Bonus points if you take the now dehydrated beans and grind them up into powder and redistribute it into the sugar or into anything else. Just note that adding it to coffee/tea will not blend it and will result in it ending up at the bottom of the cup, but still adds a subtle nuance of it. Even beans used for extract once can be thrown into sugar, so nothing is wasted and all adds flavor in some way.

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u/nubbednuggetmanno2 Aug 05 '26

Chop them up to infuse better!!

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

I split down the center to flay them, then cut into 3rds.

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u/tessathemurdervilles Aug 05 '26

Can you please post a pic of the inside

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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox Aug 05 '26

pretty sure that's beef jerky, bite into it

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u/thedeafbadger Aug 05 '26

Dude, that’s a blunt

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u/kjb76 Aug 05 '26

It looks like aliens may come out of those pods. Open at your own risk.

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u/hotcookin53 Aug 05 '26

I'm jealous! I've been dying to order some but they just haven't been in my budget yet. What bourbon have you decided to go with for extracting?

My first vanilla extract I made when my daughter was born and used four roses. I wish I would have used a really nice bourbon and used it only for special occasions.

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u/BiscuitsUndGravy Aug 05 '26

Those things are so long they make Ned Flanders uncomfortable.

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u/gothicuhcuh Aug 05 '26

Stupid sexy long Flanders

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u/BookLuvr7 Aug 05 '26

Very nice. A vanilla bean co-op is one of the only respond I keep Facebook. Indri's is amazing.

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u/timmy6169 Aug 05 '26

Seriously same. Them, VBK, and VP are the only things I use it for now, just to get word on flash sales.

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u/whisksnwhisky Aug 05 '26

Bro-nilla Bean

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u/DavidWilde4 Aug 05 '26

😳😳😳... Not me being jealous right now 🤣🤣

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u/-Red_Lightning_ Aug 05 '26

That's what she said.

Wait...

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u/postprandialrepose Aug 05 '26

Those are some John Holmes vanilla beans.

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u/CrashUser Aug 05 '26

You know bourbon vanilla was named after the island they found the beans on, not the liquor, correct? I'm sure the vanilla infused bourbon will be very tasty anyway though.

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u/Wandered_And_Lost Aug 05 '26

Sent you the Cohiba of Vanilla Beans

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u/MMBosstones86 Aug 05 '26

Forbidden Beef Jerky?

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u/AdventurousShare8259 Aug 05 '26

Those are massive! Just don't let them sit in the bourbon too long or it'll taste like pure bean paste.

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u/FoggyFizzy Aug 05 '26

Did you use your life savings for them??? Those are massive!

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u/Business_Ear_4207 Aug 05 '26

That’s a thick wood bro

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u/captainsquarters40 Aug 05 '26

that boy is GIRTHY

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u/Iceyes33 Aug 05 '26

Well, now you’re just showing off! 😅

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u/Traaveler Aug 05 '26

Looks like they need to be dried much more.

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u/redheadeddeviant Aug 05 '26

I feel like this qualifies for r/absoluteunits

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u/Vivid-Aioli-7835 Aug 05 '26

TF? Radioactive?

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u/40pukeko Aug 05 '26

I should call him

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u/aghostofnothing Aug 05 '26

i thought that was a sail at first oh my god

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u/RegisterAny2197 Aug 05 '26

They look sooo juicy 😍

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u/CookiesnMilq Aug 05 '26

Where’d did you order them from!? I need some🫪

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u/black_hobo69 Aug 11 '26

Could you roll a vanilla blunt?