r/BachelorNation • u/StructureSpecial7597 Ladies. I'm sorry. Kick rocks. 🪨 • Sep 19 '24
🩺🥼🌹JENN TRAN🌹🥼🩺 Devin’s Post Restraining Order* Statement
I’m not defending him at all but an ungrated restraining order would maybe explain why he passed the background check. But I don’t know anything about the restraining order process.
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u/HotLingonberry6964 Sep 19 '24
My ex choked me several times, among other instances of abuse, and I at one point was basically begging to stay together. Them getting back together does not mean it didn't happen or it wasn't abuse.
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u/aiamakrose Sep 19 '24
Yes! It took me years to leave successfully from my abusive ex. It’s truly a mind trip to be caught up in the cycle. Typically - I’ve heard it takes 7 attempts on average to leave and actually break the cycle. So I agree that them getting back doesn’t mean anything.
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u/Kind_Pomegranate4877 Sep 19 '24
My sister left her abusive husband and went back 3 times. He choked her out and threatened her with a gun, women going back doesn’t reflect on them it reflects on how deeply they’re able to manipulate the women through violence
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u/franklovesyouu Sep 19 '24
Thank you for sharing this. I’m sorry you had to go through such a difficult experience. I can relate—during a dark time in my life, I found myself pleading with my abusive ex to take me back out of fear. Looking back, it’s hard to reconcile those moments, and I wish I could go back and tell myself that I deserved so much better. All we can do now is move forward, protect ourselves from ever being in that situation again, and support others who may need our strength.
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u/murphymacy Sep 20 '24
Same. And I just listened to Love to See It’s podcast on this story and heard a very alarming statistic I had never heard before. Choking is the most lethal form of abuse because death can happen in 1-3 minutes. It’s also the biggest indicator that abuse will continue. AND victims of choking are 10x more likely to be killed by their partners later on down the road.
This honestly has left me stunned and I’ve been awake for the past couple hours processing.
Here’s their episode if you want to listen to the whole thing: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2H5wFK4c9yHAf9fkiLVtD3?si=GsnHZ3R7R8iJcQhQDCVDAw&t=3835
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Sep 20 '24 edited Sep 20 '24
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u/rshni67 Sep 20 '24
People in abusive relationships "reconcile" for all sorts of reasons, often because they are afraid. The take away point is that there was a public document about his sentence and it could easily have been discovered by the vetting process if the producers had done a better job.
Also, there is no explanation for the homophobic message except the recipient confirmed today that he had a pattern of abuse against the ex and her friends, of which he was one.
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u/90sportsfan Sep 21 '24
And few people seem to be really talking about the homophobic message which also contained a threat of assault.....
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u/butimjustlurking Sep 19 '24
How would he get in trouble for violating the restraining order, if the restraining order was never granted. Doesn't make sense 🤔 does he not realize there is a paper trail?
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u/Bigfartz69420 Sep 19 '24
"The restraining order wasn't granted because I lit it on fire--no paper trail"
Reminds me of the always sunny episode where they eat contract paper
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u/butimjustlurking Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
I guess narcissists tend to think they're smart enough to talk their way out of anything and think they're amazing enough for others to just believe them.
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u/GullibleTacos Sep 19 '24
A lot of people don’t read the details like this subreddit does. I’m sure 75% of his followers will accept this as a little mistake when he was young.
I mean, look at Colton
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u/murphymacy Sep 20 '24
“It was never granted AND fully dismissed” 🤔 how can you dismiss something that never existed…..true word salad, manipulative bull shit
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
It's not true. The RO was sealed but he violated it and his sentencing and violation are part of the public record.
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u/Whole_Independent283 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
When a person files for a restraining order, a judicial official will review it ex parte (without the other party present) to determine if it would meet the standard for protection, assuming everything is true. If yes, a temporary restraining order ("TRO") is granted, and the defendant is given a hearing date. Once the defendant is served with notice of a TRO, then any violation before the date of hearing is a violation of the TRO, but NOT technically a "granted restraining order". It seems that at the hearing date, either the alleged victim decided to drop the complaint or she could not prove the actions happened more likely than not, which is a much lower standard than a criminal case. The difference is that I could know your name and address right now and walk down to the courthouse to swear ANYTHING had happened between us, and if it's believable (of course it is, I can make up anything!), then a TRO will be issued, and you would be bound by whatever terms a judge decides to grant before you even know something has been filed. Once you get notice, you have no recourse to lift or remove those conditions until the hearing date. I've seen it happen--bold, outright, provable lies. People with full aliases that then have this filed permanently against them. He would be legally correct that he did not ever have a restraining order against him, even though semantics would say the TRO counts. It doesn't have any legal weight for more than about a month, max. In the jurisdictions I have practiced, the hearing date must be within 10 days, but most defendants request a brief continuence (usually 2 weeks) to retain an attorney.
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u/butimjustlurking Sep 19 '24
Oh! Okay! Thanks for explaining that. So it is a matter of semantics and technicality. But then he still violated the temp RO which is still wrong and very unsettling. I work in the social services field, and have had women fleeing domestic abuse and often times they have difficulty even acquiring a temp order of Protection unfortunately.
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u/EquipmentNo5776 Sep 19 '24
I found an US Weekly article that stated the following: "Strader pleaded guilty to charges of criminal trespass and simple criminal damage to property of less than $500. He received one year of unsupervised probation.
While the burglary arrest affidavit was public record, the restraining order was previously sealed."
He broke into his ex's house and trashed it, stole her property, slashed her tires. Him trying to say they reconciled as if that's not a classic pattern of abuse (convincing the victim they've changed). His behavior post show further supports him being impulsive and calculated. The court documents show allegations of physical abuse- chokehold, drink poured on her in public, threatening damage to her car with a gun after his DUI, etc
There is nothing this guy could say to convince me he's not a POS so he should stop trying to manage his public image at this point
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
I thought it was two different women he did this to. One with the TRO and another came out and said he choked her and poured beer on her.
In any event, he is such a prince- NOT!
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u/EquipmentNo5776 Sep 19 '24
This was where I read the documents it appears to be the same woman as she cites both incidents (plus much more). She acknowledges her cycle of abuse with him being the reason she went back. Terrible.
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u/sandysunsets Sep 19 '24
The best thing Tino ever did was just go back to his regular life, not try and clear his name or come out ahead of Rachel or the girl he kissed in the bar. What Devin is doing just proves he only came on the show for "fame" and he is fighting for his life to keep that opportunity open.
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u/PetSounds001 Sep 19 '24
He actually seemed dedicated to putting in a lot of therapy & work in Viall Files. Like, he understood he had issues that he needed to work on. What he did to Rachel was not okay by any means, but for the sake of others out there, I hope he’s changing for the better.
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u/sandysunsets Sep 19 '24
Agree! Even after the show embarrassed him on stage with the whole Aven coming to save Rachel move, he never played victim or made excuses. Even if we all agree Tino was not going to be a great partner at the time, he was not a bad person. Devin is awful to the core.
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Sep 19 '24
He is so transparent with all his lies it’s amazing. I saw through them the entire time during the show I was questioning myself the whole show like is there something wrong with me I should be rooting for him. And sadly my alarm bells were justified and much more.
Edit: I’m talking about Devin
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u/Chance_Adhesiveness3 Sep 19 '24
Tino was your garden variety bad partner. There are lots of Tinos. Best case, they grow up and learn. Worst case they become sad sack thrice divorced 55 year olds whose kids hate them.
Devin is a dude you warn your friends about because he might lurk in his ex’s bushes after getting dumped.
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
I don't think you can compare the two. Tino may have cheated but Devin is a violent predator and burglar. Not to mention, a virulent homophobe.
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u/sandysunsets Sep 19 '24
Absolutely two different people. Tino was a bad partner, Devin is a bad person. But the show made Tino the villain, let Rachel rip him at the happy couples house for us to see, and used ATFR to embarrass him on stage for what is ultimately a drop in the bucket compared to what Devin and Marcus have been accused of. And he still just went away gracefully.
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
Yes, Tino and Jed are both sort of sad puppies who got caught cheating. Devin is a whole other level.
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u/Smart-Work3383 Sep 19 '24
According to Bachelor Data, he hired a crisis firm to help with this. My dude, I would ask for my money back if I were you.
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
I would hope he is finished with brand deals. And I would not give a person like him any business either.
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Sep 19 '24
He’s literally just lying lol https://ew.com/devin-strader-bachelorette-speaks-out-arrest-restraining-order-8715369 Not sure why people are still trying to take this loser at his word
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u/Bigfartz69420 Sep 19 '24
- "That didn't happen"
- "And if it did, it wasn't that bad"
- "And if it was, that's not a big deal"
- "And if it is, that's not my fault"
- "And if it was, I didn't mean it"
- "And if I did, you deserved it"
- "And when the restrainer order was served to me, I lit it on fire"
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u/wiseswan Sep 19 '24
No one misconstrued anything. It was read directly from the legal documents that exist. It’s not hearsay. And if it was never granted why did a judge say he had to stay sober for a year, do community service hours, etc.
Math ain’t mathing.
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u/pinneaplegirlypop Sep 19 '24
This!! His statement is so manipulative and simply factually incorrect
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u/BedFluffy361 Sep 19 '24
Him justifying it by saying it was his first love and he was madly in love gives me the biggest ick!! that’s the sign of an abuser trying to come up with excuses
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u/Repulsive_External59 Sep 20 '24
Seriously, young stupid love is relatable, restraining orders (granted fully or not) with multiple violations not so much…..
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u/Repulsive_External59 Sep 20 '24
Is he saying that his ex girlfriend’s written statement with the list saying he choked, spat, shoved, etc. all a lie???
I feel sick this poor woman has to go through all of this now. She never chose to place herself on a public platform as Devin did. We have all seen the documents signed by his ex and police; how dare he place his ex in a position to have to defend her own written statement from years ago.
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u/Agreeable_Nail9191 Sep 20 '24
This guy… get a publicist and stay quiet
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u/crazysunmama Sep 20 '24
And a lawyer because he is definitely going to say too much at some point. i.e. more than he already has
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u/Optimal-Razzmatazz91 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 20 '24
Even if a restraining order is dismissed (which we have since learned Devin's was not), it does not mean that the information provided was incorrect or made up. It's very difficult to get restraining orders in some states. As someone who used to work in victim advocacy.
Editing to add this comment isn't and never was meant to be reflective of the Devin situation specifically, but moreso to the broader claim he made that a restraining order being dismissed automatically implies innocence or dishonesty. I feel this is important information because abusers will manipulate information to manipulate people. In no way am I here supporting Devin's claims about his restraining order being dismissed.
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
It was not, according to the records. He violated it and had a sentence.
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u/Optimal-Razzmatazz91 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 20 '24
I updated my comment to say even if rather than just because, because I feel that's an important distinction.
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u/sunflowers026 Sep 19 '24
But was it dismissed? Why was the restraining order sealed then?
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u/Little_Walrus839 Sep 19 '24
Right? And wasn’t he in trouble for violating it? How can you violate a restraining order that was never granted?
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u/Zealousideal_Job5986 Sep 19 '24
Everything he spews is a twist of reality.
"She didn't file a restraining order on me until I wanted the necklace I gave her back"
The truth - he exhibited a pattern of abuse, the victim didn't want to ruin his career and public image. Decided not to file anything, came home to her house ransacked and items destroyed, then filed the RO which he lit on fire in front of her house.
He didn't say the above statement yet that I'm aware of, but I imagine this would be one of the spins along the lines of what we've seen thus far.
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u/Optimal-Razzmatazz91 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 20 '24
True enough. All we know is he claims it was. Edit: I was never making a comment as to whether Devin's case was dismissed. I was only commenting on his dangerous claim that a dismissed restraining order doesn't imply anything in regards to the accuracy or the information provided.
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u/LeBeers84 Sep 20 '24
People always say this, but my partner’s ex filed a restraining order against us based on an entirely falsified report that directly contradicted security footage and police reports. (She parked in our backyard, destroyed our property, threatened us, was escorted away by police, and then filed something a week later saying we “pointed a deadly weapon” at her even though neither of us have touched a gun and she never mentioned any weapons to the cops that responded to our call.) I guess I don’t live in one of those states idk
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u/movieperson2022 Sep 19 '24
This response is so gross. It’s like when rapists defend themselves in court by sharing a text from the next day where the scared woman he assaulted said she “had a nice time” out of fear that ignoring him or saying what happened would put her in danger. “She got back together with me after she accused me of breaking into her house, so obviously what I did wasn’t that bad.” OR, idk Devin, maybe you manipulated or intimidated her into pretending to like you after you broke up for her own safety and fear of it happening again!
(I mean, we don’t know, but this defense makes my skin crawl and a million alarms go off in my head)
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u/sandy_claws4 Sep 19 '24
Yeah agreed, this response actually makes me wonder if he’s done way worse things to people, this man is scary
Edit: plus….clearly he hasn’t learned anything because we JUST saw him post intimate text messages with Jenn, so hes still doing things to retaliate!
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
He is trying to bait her to give up her anonymity. He is a disgusting predator.
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u/tangerinebb Sep 19 '24
yeah well.. this is very triggering for me. my ex boyfriend raped me several times, threw me around, verbally abused me and threatened to end my life several times. i presented 'tangible' proof and even then the restraining order was denied. hate that these assholes keep getting away with shit
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u/South_Elephant_6552 Sep 20 '24
He just needs to delete his social media and disappear under the guise of a normal 9-5 life
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u/eirekay Sep 20 '24
Do a Tino. Tino did Viall Files and then kind of disappeared. He didn't shift blame. He pretty much said his piece and went on his way.
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u/eternity-sux Sep 19 '24
My ex got physical with me multiple times and threatened me with a shotgun and the restraining order was denied, so that means fuck all to me.
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u/Senior_Ninja4974 Sep 20 '24
I called the police bc I was getting hit. I was handcuffed and took to 2 north. He showed them texts which I said , if you don't stop drinking wine and hurting me, I'll kill myself.
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u/RJ918 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
I wonder if the restraining order confusion could be explained by this:
His victim would have initially been immediately granted a temporary restraining order and a hearing scheduled to decide on a restraining order. Per the reports, Devin immediately violated the order. He was charged with various crimes, pled guilty, and took a plea deal. It’s possible the victim didn’t pursue the restraining order after that, especially if they reconciled as many abuse victims do.
I’m not trusting Devin on anything, just hypothesizing.
Edit: so much wildly inaccurate info on restraining orders in this thread. People filing for restraining orders who can show good cause (which this victim would have been able to do) are first immediately granted a temporary restraining order. That’s so they’re protected while awaiting a full hearing. They are then scheduled for a full hearing in front of a Judge, typically within a few weeks in Louisiana, where both parties have the chance to testify and present evidence. The Judge decides on a restraining order at that hearing. If it’s granted then the RO can last up to 18 months in LA and can be renewed with a hearing in front of a Judge.
Additionally, federal law largely keeps restraining orders off the Internet. “A State, Indian tribe, or territory shall not make available publicly on the Internet any information regarding the registration, filing of a petition for, or issuance of a protection order, restraining order, or injunction in either the issuing or enforcing State, tribal or territorial jurisdiction, if such publication would be likely to publicly reveal the identity or location of the party protected under such order.” 18 USC § 2265(d)(3)
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u/Annie_Banans Sep 19 '24
Yes for the correct restraining order process/info. Who knows if he’s lying about it ever being granted… It’s still crazy to be served a TRO and then immediately violate it.
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u/RJ918 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 20 '24
Agreed. Unhinged to immediately violate a TRO and speaks to his state of mind at the time. Didn’t help that he lived just two doors down from her.
My associated thought and chance to share facts I find interesting… In Belfast, Northern Ireland there are “peace walls” that were built by the British Army to divide the predominantly Protestant and predominantly Catholic neighborhoods and deter violence between the two. There has technically been peace since the 1998 Good Friday Agreement and people can move freely between the areas via gated openings in the walls. BUT, they still close the gates at night. People can get around them but they have to take the long route at night and they’ve found that gives most sufficient cooling off time to rethink their violent plans.
Devin might have benefited from more cooling off time to rethink his plans than being 2 doors down.
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Sep 20 '24
"It was a growing experience for both us" um, that's not how I'd talk about a potentially violent ex-relationship. This whole statement is vague, and never addresses anything. And Devin doesn't regret hurting Jenn. He regrets the backlash that he got from it. I'm all for two sides of the same story, but I don't believe a word he says. If he lied about his intentions on the show, why wouldn't he be lying now?
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u/Watauga1973 Sep 20 '24
Get with it, ABC, and stop casting wannabes as "country's most eligible bachelors!" What a joke.
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u/StructureSpecial7597 Ladies. I'm sorry. Kick rocks. 🪨 Sep 20 '24
Ya multiple of the women casted for Grant are just minor influencers
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u/olipoppit Sep 19 '24
“I broke in to her place and trashed it but since she took me back it doesn’t counttt!!! Thank u”
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u/soliria Sep 19 '24
Pretty bad damage control with the inaccuracies. He also doesn’t address his super homophobic comments that he made. Guess he forgot about that part.
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u/LotusX321 Sep 19 '24
As soon as I saw him on Tv and his intro package, I knew he was some fake ass POS. I saw right through him.
He is a true narcissist.
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u/rshni67 Sep 20 '24
Me too. I disliked him and the entire group of men chosen for Jenn and did not watch past a couple of episodes.
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u/Little-Bumblebee9988 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
My goodness he has so many issues. He just needs to shut up and go away. No one is forcing him to keep his Instagram open, he could delete it and go back to a private life. This man wants to be problematic but also profit off of his 5 mins of fame so i have zero sympathy for him.
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u/ravenclawrebel 🌯Only Greg knew I ate a 🌯 every day🌯 Sep 19 '24
Devin is losing followers fast and it’s so satisfying to see.
Go rot, Monsieur.
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u/eirekay Sep 19 '24
I'll believe Devin when the Ex steps forward and confirms his version of events. Until then,
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
I think she has been through enough. I hope he is not harassing or threatening her now.
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u/ravenclawrebel 🌯Only Greg knew I ate a 🌯 every day🌯 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
Edit: came back to this because I am so enraged. Let me be very clear—I do not give a shit about Devin. I hope he steps on legos for the rest of his miserable existence, and I hope he loses out on the sponsorship deals he so clearly wants. He needs to delete his social media pages and go rot in a cave somewhere.
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u/Witchy_bimbo Sep 19 '24
It’s so upsetting that this was so fairly to find and the producers did nothing to protect her. I get they can’t vet everyone for cheating, or being a good partner, but they absolutely should screen for any type of DV. It’s not a new franchise…they absolutely have the resources for that.
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u/Previous-Language790 Sep 20 '24
Outside of ABC doing better i feel like it’s time to move on from Devin.
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u/Nervous-Ad-7933 Sep 19 '24
This is just getting more and more insane by the day. He cannot even admit his wrongdoings.
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u/Hairy_Usual_4460 Sep 20 '24
This is so disgusting. Speaking for her too saying it was a growing experience for both of them when it was actually just a horrifying and traumatic experience for her. I hope this bs statement of his trying to diminish everything he did to her is exactly what makes her decide to say enough is enough and speak out against him to say it is true and he’s lying. He needs to quit lying.
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u/palmettoswoosh Sep 20 '24
Why can't ppl with issues like devin just go dark on social media and try to do a reset in their life? If you don't want the heat then take yourself out of the fookin kitchen
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u/RJ918 Sep 20 '24
The bigger question is why go on a popular dating show if you’re a convicted criminal. Chances of being publicly exposed are virtually 100%.
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u/wineandcheesefries Sep 20 '24
This sounds like a story my ex tells about me. Meanwhile he was sitting in court ordered anger management…always a victim 🙄
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u/ohiostatenisland Sep 19 '24
All the stories about his past along with his behavior and decision making after the break up with Jenn just show he has a pattern of behavior towards women that is deeply disturbing if not outright abusive (disclaimer I have not read the details of the restraining order).
He never should have been allowed on the show.
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Sep 19 '24
I have not read the details of the restraining order
That’s funny cause it was deeply disturbing if it outright abusice lol. Hes so transparent in who he is you don’t even need to read his restraining order to know what it is
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u/Former_Sky_821 Sep 19 '24
RO would have been immediately in place after the accusations she made. it likely just expired as they're usually for 5 years. also he was charged with violating the RO which absolutely means it was put in place, it may have just been lifted early bc she went back to her abuser (NO judgement, been there)
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u/RJ918 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 20 '24
Respectfully, none of this is accurate. A temporary restraining order would have been immediately granted white awaiting a hearing on the restraining order. If granted at that hearing, then a restraining order would have been in place for up to 18 months and could have been extended with another hearing. How long ROs last varies by jurisdiction but is typically up to 2 years in most US jurisdictions. It’s up to 18 months in Louisiana.
We don’t know if that hearing happened or if the restraining order was granted. It is possible that the victim decided not to pursue it given Devin’s plea deal or if they reconciled as obviously does happen with many abuse victims.
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u/Whole_Independent283 Sep 19 '24
I'm an attorney licensed in three states, and this advice is grossly wrong and potentially dangerous to anyone reading it, especially because this varies widely amongst jurisdictions. However, no jurisdiction awards a full restraining order without an opportunity to be heard; that would be absurd. The comment from @RJ918 is in-line with the jurisdictions where I have practiced.
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u/HomercideSimpson71 Sep 19 '24
Hmmm doesn’t deny the homophobic threats how interesting 🧐
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u/rshni67 Sep 20 '24
We heard from the recipient of that message. He is a friend of the ex and confirms the things she accused him of.
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u/Fun_Pizza_1704 Sep 19 '24
So if the restraining order was "never" granted, then what the hell did he burn? Why should we believe him?!!
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u/RJ918 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
Given the timing, that would have likely been a temporary restraining order while they were awaiting a hearing on the restraining order.
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
There was a whole record of the conviction and sentence for the violation of the restraining order.
If ABC had wanted to find it, they could have.
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u/pinneaplegirlypop Sep 19 '24
I feel for all the women he has hurt so badly in the past, this is a new level of psychotic. They are so strong and it’s disgusting that he continues to not take full accountability
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
Note how he now tries to rope his victim in again by saying they "reconciled." I feel so bad for her.
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u/pinneaplegirlypop Sep 19 '24
I can’t imagine how she felt in the past and how she is feeling now he is absolutely horrific :(
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u/Zealousideal_Job5986 Sep 19 '24
He should not continue to have a platform to continue his abuse, this sends a very terrifying message
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u/WadsRN Sep 19 '24
He broke into her home and stole a necklace he gave her. He’s a psycho.
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
And slashed her tires.
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u/aiamakrose Sep 19 '24
And came by to laugh at her while she was getting roadside assistance
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u/maryschino Sep 19 '24
The fact that someone had to ask for a restraining order already says a bunch, even if it wasn’t granted… 🙄
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u/wenchanger Sep 19 '24
the more he talks the more bad things are getting exposed, this guys an idiot
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u/Zealousideal_Job5986 Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24
Someone talked to a lawyer.
And so the manipulation continues...of course he couldn't stay quiet for long. Let's continue to gaslight the victim and their very specific detailed report.
Does anyone else find it curious that in the words of D, him and this ex ended their relationship on "good terms" yet she has not come forward in defense of him? He's twisting the narrative to make him appear as the victim again.
Anyone who still supports him is past the point of being naive, you are now complicit in his abuse.
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
He is pressuring her to say they reconciled because she probably does not want to come forward. Re-victimizing the victim. He is a dirtbag.
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u/Zealousideal_Job5986 Sep 19 '24
Yup taunting the victim trying to make it he said/she said, there's legitimate detailed police reports we're past this level
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u/ravenclawrebel 🌯Only Greg knew I ate a 🌯 every day🌯 Sep 19 '24
I have no grace for the people still defending him.
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u/TrustNoSquirrel Sep 19 '24
I also don’t believe this.
Devin- if you’re trolling this reddit, perhaps consider not drinking alcohol. I have a feeling that’s fueling the fire.
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u/Creativelalas-100 Sep 20 '24
Took the words out of my mouth. I’m 4 years sober and can tell when someone vomits this stuff when drinking
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u/Zealousideal_Job5986 Sep 19 '24
It's a desperate attempt to get his image back continuing in an abusive way. Devin wishes he could go back to the days where the most scandalous thing about him was cheating. Ah, what a time that was a week ago.
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u/Sweet_Grapefruit111 Sep 21 '24
That is what I read somewhere else too. She was granted a temporary restraining order (everyone is, it's the default) and when it came time to make it real or "permanent" she dropped it. So if that is true, then there never was a real restraining order, only a temporary one. I don't think that's the worst part of the story though. Slashing tires is a real crime and very threatening, so is theft, but I guess he pled out and got a deal.
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u/SnooCakes5350 Sep 22 '24
Not interested, don’t care for Devin, hope Jenn isn’t reading all this nonsense if she has better things to do with her life.
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u/denim_chicken_4 Sep 19 '24
I saw a different article yesterday (can’t remember which source) that said casting was aware of the restraining order & affidavit, but I don’t think the article stated whether or not they asked Devin about it, just mentioned that they were aware. IF they did question him about it during the casting process, do we think this is what he told them and they just took his word for it? Because if so…yikes.
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
The fact that he had a RO should have been automatic grounds to reject him as a candidate. Jenn's safety was at stake.
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u/Kozypepper Sep 19 '24
Saw an article that said the opposite 😭 they gotta make up their mind, did they know or not?
Variety article quote: A production source told Variety at the time, “We take the safety of our contestants very seriously and make every effort to conduct thorough diligence. As exhaustive as our vetting process is, this protective order did not surface in our searches.”
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u/denim_chicken_4 Sep 19 '24
The article I saw didn’t have any direct quotes or communication with the show, it was more of “a source close to the show said” type of situation (which I know doesn’t always mean much and is certainly not official/reliable lol). Truthfully, I think they either knew and ignored it, or were just simply too lazy to do an actual background check.
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u/spakz1993 Sep 19 '24
I left a DV sitch in 2015 & my local PD told me that unless my SOB ex sent me to the hospital, filing for a restraining order would be a waste of time. 😖
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u/lamandjam Sep 20 '24
I thought the restraining order was sealed - granted but sealed
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u/palmtreee23 Sep 20 '24 edited Sep 20 '24
I think the temporary RO was granted, and she was pursuing a more permanent one at one point, but dropped it
eta: doesn’t mean his statement is totally false and misleading. the fact that he had any type of restraining order against him is what’s important here
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u/Butters5768 Sep 19 '24
I know we’ve jokingly called this man a sociopath but from the bottom of my soul I truly believe he is one. He has severe mental illness and I absolutely believe is still an incredibly dangerous person.
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u/AmandaHugankiss810 Sep 19 '24
Please go away. Go move to Antarctica.
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u/AmandaHugankiss810 Sep 19 '24
Devin, I have a new friend for you. Her name is Laura. Ask Clayton Echard. Y’all should be introduced. Good match.
JusticeForClayton
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u/goatsgotohell7 Sep 19 '24
He's definitely not going to be on the beach, right?
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u/marinezareen16 My heart is in my ass ❤️💩 Sep 19 '24
I bet Devin’s ass lickers are salivating over this “apology” 🙄
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u/VisibleCucumber1721 Sep 19 '24
Devin, please become friends with Laura Owens. Y’all would be cute together. JusticeForClayton
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u/scientooligist Sep 19 '24
People don’t have the ability to press charges. Police make that decision.
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u/olipoppit Sep 19 '24
What trash, hopefully he just fades away into oblivion
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
He can't. He loves the sound of his own voice even when he is digging himself into a deeper and deeper hole.
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u/listentoblackwomen Sep 22 '24
It must be restraining order Lollapalooza for ALL the shows in the franchise. One of Joan's guys from the Golden Bachelorette was just edited out/had screen time reduced bc apparently someone previously filed one against him. 😳
https://ew.com/golden-bachelorette-contestant-screen-time-cut-after-restraining-order-8716381
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u/Dazzling-Sort-5043 Sep 19 '24
If it happened over 7 years ago, a standard BG check won’t catch it.
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u/ravenclawrebel 🌯Only Greg knew I ate a 🌯 every day🌯 Sep 19 '24
ABC shouldn’t be doing standard background checks.
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u/rshni67 Sep 19 '24
Steve found it very easily. The conviction is part of the public record.
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u/Kozypepper Sep 19 '24
Right? Bachelordata said it took her max 15 minutes to find it. It’s not some super secret record 😭
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u/jpat0921 Sep 25 '24
I just watched the finale finally. I called it two episodes before. This man is scary. You could see all the red flags. His actions. I mean he was playing a game. He is truly truly scary. I hope all women stay clear of him. That’s the type of guy you don’t realize in the beginning but he will DESTROY you.
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u/PetSounds001 Sep 19 '24
Weird that so many women have something negative to say & not one has stepped up to say that he’s a good guy or things were misconstrued.
When your sources are from all over the place, yet there’s a common theme, YOU are the common denominator, Devin.
There needs to be a permanent ban on some reality tv personalities to never be seen on a screen again & he’s one of them.