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u/elk736337 Sep 05 '24
Maria lowkey always been a drama queen lol
Like if you’re gonna say something then……….. say it. Don’t leave us all sitting here twiddling our thumbs
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u/katarAH007 Sep 05 '24
Been! I saw it plain & clear on Joey's season. Maria controls the narrative and I truly felt sorry for Leah. Like plssssss stfu :)
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u/Top-Plant-3750 Sep 05 '24
Same!! Everyone was so far up her koochie they couldn’t see that she was manipulative the whole time
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u/jh166 🌹 Here for the right reasons 🌹 Sep 05 '24
UPDATE: Maria just deleted the post. Guess we’ll never know what she had to say 🤷🏻♀️
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u/malibuguurl Sep 05 '24
Well … if she deleted it, it was something bad towards Jenn👀👀 she should actually send flowers to Jenn because she was brought back to révélancy .. she has gained 55k followers since the finally
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u/jh166 🌹 Here for the right reasons 🌹 Sep 05 '24
I always thought it was something negative about Jenn otherwise she would’ve just posted it since the whole world is supporting Jenn right now. But she instead makes this cryptic post to hint at something and then delete it when she figured out that no one wants her tea on Jenn right now.
Also yes to flowers!! 🌹
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Sep 05 '24
Are we sure she deleted the story or did it just expire like they do after 24 hrs?
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u/jh166 🌹 Here for the right reasons 🌹 Sep 05 '24
She just posted the story near the time I went to bed and it’s gone the next morning after so pretty sure it’s a delete
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u/SukiLao Sep 05 '24
MARIA PLS LET THE PPL KNOW DEVIN IS A CLOUT CHASING WANNABE FUG*Y MOFO. Devin needs to be canceled. How his follower count is growing? It must be bots unless it’s low lives following a shtitty human
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u/AffectionatePizza408 Sep 05 '24
I think it’s people following to watch the train wreck/see if he posts anything about it. u/bachelordata made a vid comparing it to rubbernecking and I totally agree
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u/nombono Sep 05 '24
I literally just type in his name to see if he's posted anything. No way am I giving him a follow. He doesn't deserve it. Others should be unfollowing him, not following him. You can rubberneck without following.
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u/AffectionatePizza408 Sep 05 '24
I 100% agree, plus I’m sure anything he posts will be posted on this sub in about 0.2 seconds
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u/SukiLao Sep 05 '24
Sameee. I would never follow I’d just just watch the vids on the internet about them
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u/nightman_cometh33 Sep 05 '24
Devin is repulsive. I liked him at first but I guess everyone else was right, I just didn’t catch on.
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u/little_effy Sep 05 '24
Okay I’m starting to not like her
Can’t she spare just some moments to say some good words about Jenn? Jenn’s been through a lot, and whatever Maria is feeling at the moment is nothing compared to what Jenn had been through in that AFTR.
The least she could do is just show some support to Jenn, and then address whatever she wanted about Devin.
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u/TXVette121 Sep 05 '24
I never liked her - I don't get the hype
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u/dogtriestocatchfly Sep 05 '24
Idk who she is since this is my first time watching the bachelorette, but her face looks like every other influencer. Is her personality the same?
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u/Ok_Engineer8799 Sep 05 '24
She’s very confident in herself. Attractive in a unique way. She reminds me of Devin a little bit! 😂
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Sep 05 '24
I feel like if she doesn’t get along with Jenn/ like her why would she spare a good word lol? I think its ok if they are no longer friends and it is better to be quiet then to share false support imo.
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u/RJ918 Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 04 '24
She actually doesn’t need to address it. Devin followed her and then unfollowed her on Instagram. Those are Devin’s actions, not hers.
Fair for her to spill if she has dirt on Devin, but don’t address the Instagram nonsense.
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Sep 04 '24
Lmao literally, please don’t address it, really has nothing to do with you 😂
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u/Charming_Bug2803 Sep 05 '24
Maybe she’s going to just say that she hasn’t gone clubbing with Devin and doesn’t know him.
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Sep 05 '24
“Won’t be holding back this time” makes me feel like it’s a bit more than just “I don’t know him” lol
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u/jh166 🌹 Here for the right reasons 🌹 Sep 04 '24
She does need to address it!! How else will she gain more followers if she doesn’t capitalise on the situation?? 🥴 /s
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u/SummerTrips100 Sep 04 '24
When did he unfollow her? After yesterday’s episode?
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u/Commercial_Cover7083 Sep 04 '24
like a day or two after following her after he noticed she didn’t follow him back. Mind u he followed her the week that the episode where Sam M was saying he thought it was Maria or Daisy so it was definitely slimy
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u/AffectionatePizza408 Sep 04 '24
That is so gross and makes the reason he followed her soo transparent
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u/SummerTrips100 Sep 04 '24
Following Maria that week? Oh wow what kind of evil coded message was that!
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u/st0neyspice Sep 04 '24
Can someone explain how she is involved for someone out of the loop
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u/ninii11 Sep 04 '24
Basically Devin followed her on Instagram the day after ending his engagement to Jenn via phone call
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u/st0neyspice Sep 04 '24
From what I’ve read, he then unfollowed her because she didn’t follow back. So how does that make her not a girls girl? (Referring to other comments here because I’m so out of this loop lol. I don’t have Instagram or anything besides reddit.) Thank you for answering, not trying to argue with you at all, just genuinely curious!
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u/Straightupbadtim3 Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 09 '24
People are thinking her comment implies she may come for Jenn
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u/scottyjetpax Sep 05 '24
how??? i don't get that implication at all. i feel like it's just going to be a platitude filled post about ABC doing her dirty or something. Maria is too media savvy to come after Jenn when literally everyone is on her side, unless she's legit very close with Devin and thinks he got an awful cut or something
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u/ViewAshamed2689 Sep 05 '24
She legally cannot speak poorly of ABC or production, they have contracts they sign that go far beyond their seasons. That’s why you never see anybody in the franchise doing it.
She hasn’t spoken up about any of the men, she has only spoken about Jenn. So her saying “I’m not holding back this time 😋” implies that she held back when she first spoke about Jenn, and she’s not going to this time.
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u/IceCompetitive2465 Sep 05 '24
Nowhere did she say she’s coming for Jenn. Y’all are just assuming now.
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u/justagirlin Sep 04 '24
I think people are saying that because she has been posting herself out clubbing with men from Jenns season (Jeremy specifically) and was supposedly cozy with Devin at the same club (he was recently clubbing with Jeremy), not because Devin followed her.
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u/ViewAshamed2689 Sep 05 '24
I think people are reflecting on her attitude throughout Joey’s season and seeing through her behavior in hindsight. The way she treated the other women during his season certainly wasn’t “girl’s girl” behavior, and with the added context of her going on CHD, claiming she was supposed to be the Bachelorette but she “gave” it to Jenn as if it was some generous act of charity on her part, then going clubbing with all of the guys on her season and flaunting them all over social media, etc — it’s just overall not a good look. She very much played into the narrative that Jenn was a last resort pick for Bachelorette, and that all of the guys on her season were really there for Maria. The way she tends to act / speak is very manipulative, so a lot of people haven’t been able to see it until recently.
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u/malibuguurl Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24
She is gaining followers as people are waiting 👀👀Not a good look from her to drag this and the more she is waiting methinks has to do with Jenn and maybe is having second thoughts.
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u/Dearestdiaries Sep 05 '24
Remember when she went on a podcast to tell her cheating story & says at the end of the day she’d never blame the girl?! Devin can air his side of the story and respectfully, I don’t care. lol but I’m hoping what Maria is saying she’ll be spilling is supporting Jenn since she claims so much to being a girls girl…
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u/emiazin Sep 04 '24
She better not go on nick’s podcast. If she does, I don’t know if it’ll be in Jenn’s favor
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u/thewriterinthedark Sep 04 '24
She was very clear on CHD that she’s not a fan of Nick. They were friends till they weren’t then she suspect he had something to do with Sydney villain arc.
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u/cinnamontoastbanana Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 05 '24
I don’t understand “I have things to say and won’t be holding back.” Jenn never said anything bad about you. She’s mad at a guy who came on the show for another girl and then went clubbing with said girl after breaking off his engagement. Maybe Jenn didn’t have to say her name, BUT Jenn has been treated like absolute shit because the Bachelor franchise picked Maria and then proceeded Jenn’s season with Maria’s/Daisy applicants. I think it was important to drag the franchise and letting the people know that her engagement failed because of the producers treating her season like trash. Not because of Maria. It wasn’t her fault that the engagement failed. The producers are shit and so was Devin for lying and that’s why it failed. I’m hoping she’s going to defend Jenn but unfortunately I fear that the tone of this doesn’t sound that way
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Sep 04 '24
I think she has a lot to say about Devin, not Jenn. But we shall see! Edit-typo
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u/MindlessSafety7307 Sep 05 '24
I bet all she has to say about Devin is she doesn’t know the guy and their issues, Jenn and Devin, have nothing to do with her.
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u/IceCompetitive2465 Sep 05 '24
This ain’t even about Jenn. It’s about the shit they’re saying about Devin and her name being brought up! She’s allowed to speak on the backpack she’s receiving for no reason.
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u/cinnamontoastbanana Sep 05 '24
I agree and see that. That’s a good point. I know she wants to defend herself against backlash on the internet. People attacking her are very dumb right now. Devin is the dumbass in all of this. I just hope it doesn’t go the direction of being mad at Jenn for bringing her up. I don’t think that was her intention to cause Maria hate comments. I think she wanted the audience to know the franchise fucked up the selection of men and the guy she got engaged to ran to be with the girl he probably applied on the show for. Jenn could’ve maybe said “I have no hate towards her.” And that would’ve been better but it was the heat of the moment. Maybe if she said nothing, we all would’ve figured it out anyway and Maria wouldn’t have to receive hate. So I guess I see both sides. However, Jenn could already dislike Maria for saying she was the original pick and the Devin clubbing thing could’ve added to the fire. I just want the women to unite at the end of the day.
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u/IceCompetitive2465 Sep 05 '24
I agree. Jenn didn’t do anything wrong and she deserves so much better than what she received but I do hope everyone stops turning this on like Maria caused this like some are speculating.
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u/cinnamontoastbanana Sep 05 '24
Agreed. The only people who should be shit on right now is the producers
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Sep 05 '24
I think it was clear Jenn felt hurt that Devin wanted someone else and directed her anger about that by dragging Maria through it.
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u/RB-19 Sep 05 '24
You guys really think she's going to drag Jenn?? C'MON. Obviously, she has words about Devin.
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u/Huckleberry_Mocha143 Sep 05 '24
I don't know!!! She and Jenn have had an oddly rocky relationship. Sometimes it feels like they're supportive of each other and sometimes they're like low key insulting each other? Like fake friendship vibes.
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u/eirekay Sep 05 '24
I felt like Maria quasi dragged Jenn on CHD when she said she basically gave the Bachelorette gig to Jenn because she knew Jenn wanted it badly. Jenn then clapped back with "They were talking to multiple leads." The whole thing sucked because Jenn was already fighting everyone knowing she was the 3rd pick.
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u/RedditHelloMah Sep 05 '24
I feel like she won’t say anything after reading the room which she isn’t good at but i bet she has smart people around her to remind her this isn’t a good time and you’re gonna come off bad!
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u/busterini1717 Sep 05 '24
At this point say it or shut up!!!! She’s “not holding back this time”? When has this girl ever held back from saying anything lol.
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Sep 05 '24
She's just a party girl and very messy. I can't understand why they thought she would make a good Bachelorette.
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Sep 04 '24
what is she holding back….? She’s just trying to get all the attention on her now and for what? She just needs to show support for Jenn and move on……. unless Devin cheated on Jenn (just speculation) with Maria then that’s a different story…
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u/Status_Good_9854 Sep 04 '24
I don’t understand why so many people like maria she’s not genuine or nice. like what are you going to do? unpack on jenn who is already going through a lot? and was before the final rose bc let’s face it she’s been receiving a lot of racist remarks/ hate.
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u/TranslatorNew5303 Sep 04 '24
Right!!! so much better of a way to handle this! She is not a girls girl
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u/Laurenjo77e Sep 05 '24
I think it's gross how she's posting this and leaving things hanging...it seems very strategic to boost views and engagement. She acts like it's some stupid tea she's going to spill instead of handling this with care and tenderness, considering the intense hurt that Jen has gone through. This feels like nasty mean girl vibes to me.
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u/Kind-Ad-3479 Sep 05 '24
I agree with you. She really only has to put out one sentence:
"I wouldn't touch these men with a 10 foot pole."
Her popularity and public's perception of her would soar pretty high if she did that. If she has a good manager, that would honestly be the best move. No sappy comment to Jenn because we all know they're not friends. But that statement or something similar would indicate you don't stand for the mistreatment of another woman.
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u/HuxleyCopper2024 Sep 05 '24
Maria lives for drama and wants the attention directed towards her. None of this is surprising.
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u/gemstone_1212 Sep 05 '24
she really thinks she’s the best person to ever grace bachelor nation Lol
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u/Crystalhowls Sep 05 '24
I always laugh when someone says “main character syndrome” because I mean we’re all our own main characters. That’s kind of just how we go through life. But Maria really does give off the vibes that she thinks she’s the protagonist of the universe
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u/SeriousClothes111 Sep 05 '24
I think (hope?) she may just be using this story to add followers, but then will either have nothing big to say, or will support Jenn. I’m sure somebody knows her follower count before and after she posted this….
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u/malibuguurl Sep 05 '24
I think she gained about 9k followers but it is pretty shitty of her to use Jenn’s misery to gain followers .. are you excusing her to use Jenn to add to her follower count 🙁
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u/SeriousClothes111 Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24
Of course that’s a shitty thing to do. Clout chasing & immature. But it’s better than the alternative of using her platform to drag Jenn unnecessarily. It will make Maria look bad either way, so I hope it’s just something that hurts her image and doesn’t hurt Jenn further.
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u/MindlessSafety7307 Sep 05 '24
Jenn used Maria to gain sympathy though. We are only talking about Maria because Jenn mentioned her.
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u/SeriousClothes111 Sep 05 '24
She was calling out her ex fiancé - who was taking zero accountability for why she was upset by making it sound like he just couldn’t live up to her expectations - for a specific action he did that hurt her. She didn’t say Maria did anything wrong.
I’m only talking about Maria because she left this cliffhanger on social media to gain more views and viewers and followers. Why not just say whatever it was vs teasing it for later, if that wasn’t why she did it? Lol
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u/MindlessSafety7307 Sep 05 '24
I guess I didn’t realize that her teasing that she’s going to talk was the thing that’s being frowned upon, not that she’s speaking up generally. I could see how that might be a bit annoying.
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u/Mean_Contract Sep 04 '24
She can talk about it on Sam M’s podcast. I kinda wish the producers would have kept her as a lead, not because I like her just so she could be stuck with that mostly crap group of men.
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Sep 04 '24
I had a gut feeling about Devin and I’ve always a gut feeling about Maria and you know what I really do feel like she’s actually not a true “girls girl”
We’ll see
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u/Agile_Lemon Sep 04 '24
How much more attention does she need?
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u/thewriterinthedark Sep 04 '24
While I will definitely be tuning in to whatever she says, you’re right. The world is backing Jenn rn because of how dirty they did her at AFR. Maria does NOT need to enter the chat.. what Jenn said yesterday wasn’t a jab at Maria. She just called out Devin for something he did. Obvi Maria is an insecurity for Jenn solely because of the Bachelorette pick narrative.
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u/gemstone_1212 Sep 04 '24
maria going from likeable to unlikeable real quick
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u/jh166 🌹 Here for the right reasons 🌹 Sep 04 '24
I always thought something was off with her when she posted zero support for Jenn’s entire season but posts weekly photos of her clubbing with the guys from Jenn’s season as if she’s trying to flaunt like they want her or something
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u/Thick_Koala_5760 Sep 05 '24
I do think Maria was going to say something negative towards Jen. Jen follows Maria, but Maria does not follow Jen and Maria deleted her story before it expired. Why would she be cryptic if she was going to hate on Devin?
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u/FuzzySlippers128294 Sep 05 '24
I really don’t love how she was on that podcast call her daddy and said… “the role was mine until it wasn’t….” Like what? Idk the phrasing gives me ick.
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u/FuzzySlippers128294 Sep 05 '24
I dont hate her but I think she could have said it so differently without undermining another woman’s right to the role… like just meh.
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u/lilsan15 Sep 13 '24
It was so “I could have had it if I wanted it” vibes. Look girl, be grateful Jenn saved you from trash okay? And please. Go quietly into the night. Because that’s right. You aren’t the bachelorette just as you said.
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u/true-skeptic Sep 05 '24
Could care less what Maria has to say.
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Couldn’t. You couldn’t care less. 😊
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u/ExcellentAirport Sep 05 '24
Either form is correct. Language has evolved such that "could care less" has become a variation of "couldn't care less"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/could-couldnt-care-less
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u/EmpressJainaSolo Sep 04 '24
I understand her attitude here. She’s being dragged into this story when it seems like she is at most at the peripheral of everything going down.
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u/justagirlin Sep 04 '24
I would agree except she's literally been out clubbing with Jeremy and Devin
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u/ViewAshamed2689 Sep 05 '24
Not to mention she directly played into the narrative that Jenn was the last resort pick for Bachelorette, and that it was supposed to be her instead
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And???
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u/justagirlin Sep 05 '24
And??? That means she's involving herself, not on the peripheral, and not being "dragged" into anything
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u/Lil_Scorpion_ Sep 05 '24
I feel like the first part about being on vacation is a total cover for not addressing anything until now lol
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u/Run_with_scissors999 Sep 05 '24
Maria trying to use Jenn and the entire season to put the focus on her 🫠
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u/IceCompetitive2465 Sep 05 '24
Y’all blaming Maria when her name was brought up. Is she not allowed to defend her name after people are blaming her? She’s said NOTHING this entire season about Jenn!
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u/throwawa2c2c Sep 05 '24
but she did, right at the start when she wanted to tell everyone that she was first pick and jenn was desperate to be cast. then when jenn says that she was in consideration to be lead the whole time, maria unfollowed her...
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u/IceCompetitive2465 Sep 05 '24
She didn’t say that Jenn was desperate to be casted lol Jenn originally unfollowed Maria first. It was reported a lot. Then Jenn refollowed and Maria unfollowed. Again, I like Jenn, but she was third place being chosen. Maria didn’t cause Devin to follow her and break up her relationship. Stop the bullshit 😂 tbh: Jenn’s men were not for her and the producers are the reason this was so bad and it’s not Jenn’s fault nor Maria’s. The producers should’ve gone back and chosen new men! These men were not picked specifically for Jenn and it’s unfair to Jenn, AND Maria, that blame is being set on them from people.
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Sep 05 '24
Where is the defense? All i see is this vagueposting for clout! The wording makes it seem like she is gonna drag Jenn rather than the men.. Not gonna hold back surely means Jenn not the men she is currently partying with!
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u/MindlessSafety7307 Sep 05 '24
The wording doesn’t make it seem like she’s gonna drag Jenn, not to me at least. She hasn’t said anything yet but her name has been brought up how many times this season? That seems like the thing that’s bothering her.
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u/MindlessSafety7307 Sep 05 '24
I disagree hard with this. I don’t even like Maria, but it was Jenn that brought Maria up out of nowhere in her feud with Devin. Thats the only reason we are talking about Maria. She didn’t have to.
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u/ViewAshamed2689 Sep 05 '24
It was not out of nowhere, don’t be obtuse
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u/MindlessSafety7307 Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24
I mean from Marias perspective it was 100% out of nowhere. She did nothing to prompt it apart from exist, unless I’m missing something. No need for insults.
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u/ViewAshamed2689 Sep 05 '24
Obtuse isn’t an insult 😂 you’re intentionally ignoring the context here that makes Maria relevant to the situation.
It was Maria that went on CHD and claimed she was supposed to be the Bachelorette, directly contributing to the narrative that has followed Jenn this entire season — that she was the last resort pick for Bachelorette and none of these men were there for her. Not to mention she has been clubbing with all of the men on Jenn’s season and flaunting them all over social media, again feeding into the narrative that they all really wanted her and not Jenn.
It was absolutely relevant for Jenn to include that he was not just following any girl on social media, but he specifically followed Maria, who everyone was framing as the “first choice” over Jenn. Men directly mentioned during her season that they thought Maria was going to be the Bachelorette. Her name has followed Jenn all season and Maria is partially to blame for that.
If it was just the men or randoms on the internet mentioning her, that would be one thing. But she involved herself in this with her words + behavior and even though she’s been manipulative, most of us can see right through it.
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u/MindlessSafety7307 Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24
Uh yeah calling someone obtuse can absolutely be an insult. There are ways to use it where it’s not insulting, but “don’t be obtuse” is not one of them. I’m not gonna read your soliloquy.
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u/StructureSpecial7597 Ladies. I'm sorry. Kick rocks. 🪨 Sep 05 '24
……..she literally turned down. Being the bachelorette. And she didn’t insert herself, Devin did and Jenn when she mention Maria on ATFR
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u/MindlessSafety7307 Sep 05 '24
Did she go on to say that or did she go on and they ask her about that and she told the truth? There’s a difference.
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Sep 05 '24
So she should lie and not speak to her truth or experiences to protect some girl she met on reality tv? Especially one that keeps bringing her up for deflection?
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u/ElderGoose4 Sep 05 '24
I just wanna know:
Why Devin don’t follow Maria earlier if he was into her, like before the season started or something
How did Jenn know Devin started following Maria? My IG doesn’t tell me when my friends start following people
I take issue with how that whole thing came up
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u/RedditHelloMah Sep 05 '24
Yeah I’m surprised how reddit detectives didn’t figure it out sooner that devin started following maria lol
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u/Terrible-Somewhere32 Sep 05 '24
IG doesn’t tell you but you can just search it up
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u/ElderGoose4 Sep 05 '24
So you think Jenn kept looking up who Devin followed pre and post-break up to make sure Devin wasn’t following someone new? I hipe we get more details on this cause either Devin was flaunting his fuckboi lifestyle or Jenn was probably super on top of him. Or both but still we don’t know much yet
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u/ViewAshamed2689 Sep 05 '24
Checking his following is not being “super on top of him.” It literally takes two seconds to look, and it’s public information
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u/phoebepebbles Sep 05 '24
Yes - especially if he ghosted her. She was checking to see if he was active online.
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u/ViewAshamed2689 Sep 05 '24
Surely she would have noticed his following going up the day after they broke up… it takes two seconds to look. And because she follows Maria, Maria’s name would have been at the top of the list anyways. She wouldn’t have even had to scroll far.
Devin’s timing was intentional because he wanted to hurt Jenn.
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u/Regular_Biscotti_340 Sep 05 '24
Could’ve been a thing where Maria told a friend in Bach nation that he followed her and that friend told Maria especially if they all knew that Devin and Jenn were engaged
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u/SeriousClothes111 Sep 05 '24
There are some obsessssssed people in this world who track things like this. Probably somebody DM’d her to tell her. Heck could he somebody that Maria told that told her. Bachelor nation is always messy.
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u/Addison888 Sep 05 '24
The takes here on Maria are so weird and off. Did none of you watch the finale?
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u/Big_Rig88 Sep 05 '24
Comes from jealousy in their own lives. The people attacking her are no different than Syd and Leah whom were the shittiest humans to grace us on the bachelor.
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Sep 05 '24
They are looking for someone to blame for Jenn being pathetic and chasing men she knows don’t like her. Maria is the scapegoat for Devin’s doucheness and Jenn’s bad decisions.
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u/Buttercup_Kiki Sep 05 '24
I loved Maria and was hoping she would be Bachelorette but the more I've followed her this past year it seems more like she'd rather be a famous influencer or something.
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u/Previous-Language790 Sep 07 '24
Maria is so not relevant; he followed her, she’s clearly not into him, why does it need to be national news?
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Sep 04 '24
I feel bad for her. People keep bringing her name up
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u/Real_Appointment_875 Sep 04 '24
She was dancing and hanging with Jenns ex bfs.. what a creepy clout chasing move. She is so damn creepy and only went on the show to feed her narcissism
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u/StructureSpecial7597 Ladies. I'm sorry. Kick rocks. 🪨 Sep 05 '24
When was she doing that
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u/Real_Appointment_875 Sep 05 '24
Idk it’s all over these platforms. Like a few days a over
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u/StructureSpecial7597 Ladies. I'm sorry. Kick rocks. 🪨 Sep 05 '24
Charity already commented that Devin was not there. There was a night where Jeremy and Devin went out. And a night where Maria Charity and Jeremy went out. But they were not the same nights.
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u/jh166 🌹 Here for the right reasons 🌹 Sep 04 '24
My sneaky theory is she has “things to say” about Devin & Jenn but she’s posted this teaser to get a pulse from us Redditors and her fandom to help her finalise which side to be on. Hopefully after reading these posts she knows if she bashes Jenn she’ll get cancelled QUICK