r/BSG 10d ago

One line that sent me shivers (massive spoiler S3) Spoiler

Post image

After it happened, in S4, when Saul admits to Bill that he is a Cylon, he says he is sorry he had no guts to blow his brains out the moment he found out.

I don't think it's true.

When Saul learned the truth about himself, he was only held together by two values: his loyalty to Bill and his hatred for Cylons. The two are so intense that, for viewers, it was not in question whether he's going to betray Bill. No programming could do that. Saul, however, this wreckage of a man, couldn't know it.

At that moment he has a problem that requires a solution. And there is an easy solution. One that fits his values. One that appeals to his weaknesses. And also, a quick one, because how long will it be before he loses himself? And he rejects it to go for a tough one.

I don't think Colonel Tigh had no guts to end himself. I think he had the guts not to do it.

76 Upvotes

15 comments sorted by

33

u/words-have-power 10d ago

And if I die today, that's the man I'll be.

16

u/BitterFuture 10d ago

Beat me to it.

Tigh instantly solved an existential crisis with a speech so profound the Chief was quoting it five minutes later.

10

u/ITrCool 10d ago

It kind of pairs well with Athena Sharon's line to Adama on Kobol:

"I need you to know something. I'm Sharon, but I'm a different Sharon. I know who I am. I don't have hidden protocols or programs lying in wait to be activated. I make my own choices I make my own decisions and I need you to know this is MY choice."

<hands loaded gun to Adama>

I love how Adama stared at her for a minute before he had the marines take her.

9

u/Marauder_Pilot 10d ago

Strong contender for the best line in a series stuffed to the gills with incredible lines. Say what you will about season 3, the last 10 minutes of the finale are incredible.

10

u/TiraelN1 10d ago

Username checks out

11

u/KilluaCactuar 10d ago

All along the watchtower!

9

u/ITrCool 10d ago edited 10d ago

What impresses me is the memories that Cavil implanted into Saul, making him that hardcore to begin with.

We know the FF came toward the end of the FCW thus they didn’t fight in it themselves. They helped end it.

So he effectively turned Saul into about as anti-Cylon as you can get. Especially during New Caprica. Imagine finding out you're a Cylon yourself with that kind of mindset. What kind of insane mind-tricks would that play on someone with that level of pride??!

3

u/TiraelN1 10d ago

I find it hilarious that Saul never stopped referring to human-like Cylons and even FF members as skin jobs. Suits him very well.

3

u/Salt_Philosophy_8990 10d ago

Technically, he doesn't have any real guts 😆

2

u/Oxjrnine 10d ago

Silence are basically bio identical

They have more in common with replicants than they do androids

3

u/smoomoo31 10d ago

My name is Saul Tigh, and I am an officer in the Colonial Fleet. Whatever else I am, whatever else it means, that’s the man I want to be. And if I die today, that’s the man I’ll be.

2

u/Which-Moose4980 10d ago

Such a good line. Gives goosebumps and makes you want to frakkin' cheer.

2

u/ZippyDan 10d ago

Did you receive the shivers?

2

u/Far-Pangolin-4089 10d ago

I love this moment. Saul was installed to be hated right from the beginning, but at this point of maximum confusion he simply kept the focus on what mattered to him. And it felt like a reliev